OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #7

[yosande]

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/Kyron.Horman.pdf

Statement by Kyron Horman’s Immediate Familiy
June 9, 2010
Noon
Read by Capt. Mike Shults, Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office

Kyron's family would like to thank people for their support and interest in finding their son. The outpouring of support and continued effort strengthens their hope.

We need for folks to continue to assist us in our goal. Please search
your properties – cars, out buildings, sheds, etc. Also check with
neighbors and friends who may be on vacation or may need in
assistance in searching. There are a lot of resources here to help
you search, so please don’t stop.

It is obviously a difficult time and they want to speak to the public so
you can hear it from Kyron’s family as they come together to share
their message. Their objective is to keep the focus on Kyron and not
about anything else.

***************************************************

emma's comments:

I'm back up on the fence about codes in the public statement. I think it's just a miscommunication.

I think the ONLY part of this statement that is from Kyron's family is the first paragraph.

I think the rest of this statement is an LE statement. In other words, it is LE talking to the public with the instruction to check cars and outbuildings, etc.. "Folks ..."

And the final paragraph is an awkwardly worded apology for the family not meeting the public in person just yet, saying they want to do that but they will do so when they can come together to share their message.

For some reason, the family must not be all together today and couldn't do a family press conference?

I think we will see them soon.

Taking more time to re-read everything, and watch the press conference, I'm moving away from the idea of this having a coded message. Which is sad, actually. It had raised my hopes.

Mr. Harmon's e-mail is strong and focused and in line with what one might expect of a man of action, organization, and team process in a crisis. I have no idea how he was still holding it together when he wrote that thing. Impressive. JMHO

:couch:

Thanks for the link. This is the first time I've seen it.

first impression, strong infighting.

ETA; not all of it was written by the family,

possibly a kidnapping/ransom scenario is going on,

and the possible kidnapper has cut off contact.

But it's pure speculation on my part, of course...

jmo.

 

[AlexisFresca]

Alexis, apparently there is no video. At this point LE will not even confirm any siting after 8:45 or if the picture was confirmed to have been taken that morning.

We are literally at square one.

Thanks! Its just hard to believe that with all those people scurrying around the school that morning, that not one single person saw anything? Anyone?

 

[rosiebean]

Thanks! Its just hard to believe that with all those people scurrying around the school that morning, that not one single person saw anything? Anyone?

I think people saw things, but LE isn't commenting right now...a difference.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Oh my goodness. I'm so far behind due to softball games!!!

Is there a kind soul here that can give me a brief run down of what's going on tonight.
I will go back and read but it may take me a while.

What are the current thoughts?


Thanks.

 

[JBean]

Maybe so, but it's not just the SAR teams. It's also the people manning tip lines, the people calling in tips, the people bringing supplies to the donation center, the people in the media who are keeping this story in the headlines, the people manning the first aid stations. There are many hundreds of people pulling together to find their child for them.

My opinion, but I do strongly feel that thanks are in order. I know I am not them, but I'd be on my knees in gratitude for so many people trying to find my child for me.

perhaps their energies are focused more on finding their child than social graces. I would guess that maybe they have tunnel vision at this point and know that people are grateful. I don't think anyone is looking for thanks from this family at this point. There is plenty of time for that.

ETA; I see they have released a thank you.

 

[SoCalSleuth]

They have a criminal profiler on this case and I believe he told them to release Kyron's artwork as a means to humanize him to the kidnapper. I also believe that everything that LE and the family is saying or not saying is also per the direction of the profiler--that would include LE's statements that the family is free to talk yet the family not talking--it's all being done for a reason. One thing that I find startling that makes me think that it's an abduction is that LE has not stated that they are concerned with Kyron being out in the elements for such an extended period especially with the bad weather they had at the beginning--(and if I am wrong feel free to correct me). I also believe there is a strong possibility that the kidnapper knows the family, knows Kyron, possibly had a prior relationship with him (neighbor? babysitter?) and is a woman.

 

[pinkpuddytat]

If I remember correctly in the past Lillian Glass has said that lip licking is a sign of lying.

Gates has been doing that a lot lately. (Not a problem, I expect him to not be honest, just pointing it out.)

I do find the family statement to be weird and not written by them. I also think it fits in with the possible ransom theory which is still very suspicious to me.

Does anyone really believe that LE would approve of the family releasing a statement that they'd actually written all by themselves? Look what happened to the school principal was allowed to speak at the press conference -- LE had someone right next to him, and when he said one wrong word in the press conference, LE all but tackled him to get him off the scene immediately.

Someone in the family may have written something as a first draft, but by the time LE was done editing it, of course it wouldn't sound like their own words any more, because it wouldn't be.

And on a related note, I'm absolutely appalled at the media outlet that ran what appeared to be a direct interview with Kyron's best friend and classmate. I'm sure LE was appalled too, and has since had a word with the boy's parents and the media outlet. That child is only 8 years old, and as close to being a witness to Kyron's disappearance as anyone. They're not even letting the school principal speak freely to the media, and yet somehow this very young child was allowed to yak away to some reporter, whose editor in turn made the irresponsible decision to print lengthy quotes from the "interview". The child probably had no concept that what he said about his missing friend would be quoted in the media.

 

[KaylynnCouture]

This is about to win my award for one of the most confusing cases ever. I keep going back and forth between he's lost, abducted by a stranger, abducted by someone he knows, held for ransom..etc. I can't figure this out

 

[Emma Peel]

Thanks for the link. This is the first time I've seen it.

first impression, strong infighting.

jmo.

yeah, I think I'm getting that too yosande.

at least awkwardness regarding issues of family's media presence - likely due to the early involvement of family's legal counsel. Intel too. Eggshells.

That was perhaps the most fascinating part of the e-mail to me. The reference Mr. Horman makes to contacting Intel legal on how to proceed...

Can you imagine if Intel's financially helping to support this ground effort? That would be very hush-hush. We'll never hear about it. IMO they would not want to become a magnet for employee-related kidnapping/ransoms.

Of course, I hope Intel is helping. Seems to be a major influx of searchers now. $$$$$ Probably not a crazier thought than any other tonight.

 

[Lava]

They have a criminal profiler on this case and I believe he told them to release Kyron's artwork as a means to humanize him to the kidnapper. I also believe that everything that LE and the family is saying or not saying is also per the direction of the profiler--that would include LE's statements that the family is free to talk yet the family not talking--it's all being done for a reason. One thing that I find startling that makes me think that it's an abduction is that LE has not stated that they are concerned with Kyron being out in the elements for such an extended period especially with the bad weather they had at the beginning--(and if I am wrong feel free to correct me). I also believe there is a strong possibility that the kidnapper knows the family, knows Kyron, possibly had a prior relationship with him (neighbor? babysitter?) and is a woman.

I agree with everything you've said!

 

[scandi]

Thanks. I thought maybe it could have been true? I wonder if anyone here has checked that out before and it has been ruled out already. :waitasec:

It could be one of those points kept close to the vest of LE but a very astute reader put 2 + 2 together !!!

ETA: Remember yesterday at a presser the Sheriff said he couldn't answer that question as to when the photo was taken. It made me wonder if it was taken when he delivered the project to his school.

Was he wearing that T-shirt when he disappeared?

 

[cluciano63]

Oh my goodness. I'm so far behind due to softball games!!!

Is there a kind soul here that can give me a brief run down of what's going on tonight.
I will go back and read but it may take me a while.

What are the current thoughts?


Thanks.

Nothing really new...everyone still just hashing out various scenarios and possibilities. The statements are posted that LE read from family and one from Dad posted on what must be a friend's company website. Searching is escalating, LE would confirm nothing at last PC, including things that had been confirmed before, and indicated they are looking for a "live Kyron" and that "stranger things have happened" in meaning that he could be found alive. They talked about two other cases, how they were searched, etc...both were lost in wilderness type cases. So really, no way to know wht they are thinking, IMO.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Nothing really new...everyone still just hashing out various scenarios and possibilities. The statements are posted that LE read from family and one from Dad posted on what must be a friend's company website. Searching is escalating, LE would confirm nothing at last PC, including things that had been confirmed before, and indicated they are looking for a "live Kyron" and that "stranger things have happened" in meaning that he could be found alive. They talked about two other cases, how they were searched, etc...both were lost in wilderness type cases. So really, no way to know wht they are thinking, IMO.

Thank you so much!!!
I will go back to read now. Just wanted to know a little before going all the way back through 4-5 hours of posts

 

[Voice4theSilent]

Another possible motive for kidnapping (aside from $) may be a disgruntled co-worker or former co-worker of someone in the family.

 

[KaylynnCouture]

Oh my goodness. I'm so far behind due to softball games!!!

Is there a kind soul here that can give me a brief run down of what's going on tonight.
I will go back and read but it may take me a while.

What are the current thoughts?


Thanks.

I've been off and on tonight as well, but I'll try to recap for you the best I can.

-Investigators brought in the sheriff from Klamath County to help with the investigation today (he is apparently experienced in different kinds of searches).

-At a press conference this afternoon, the sheriffs office read a statement by the family. You can watch the 4pm presser here- http://www.katu.com/home/video/96011519.html

-Hundreds of additional searchers will be searching tonight and tomorrow.

-The FBI brought in a special mobile command center today that will allow them to communicate via satellite communications, give detectives more room to work, help with logistics, etc.

As far as the current thoughts, I think everyone is just beyond confused at this point.

 

[AlexisFresca]

Would someone be so kind as to link me to the email I keep reading about? I am confused about who this email is from, who it is to or how it is significant. Thank you so much!

 

[SoCalSleuth]

yeah, I think I'm getting that too yosande.

at least awkwardness regarding issues of family's media presence - likely due to the early involvement of family's legal counsel. Intel too. Eggshells.

That was perhaps the most fascinating part of the e-mail to me. The reference Mr. Horman makes to contacting Intel legal on how to proceed...

Can you imagine if Intel's financially helping to support this ground effort? That would be very hush-hush. We'll never hear about it. IMO they would not want to become a magnet for employee-related kidnapping/ransoms.

Of course, I hope Intel is helping. Seems to be a major influx of searchers now. $$$$$ Probably not a crazier thought than any other tonight.

Your post is spot on! There is no question that Intel has a security team in place on how to handle this situation so Intel and or its employees do not become a target. In fact, the flip-flop about the family's presser today could be a result from a conflict between Intel's advisors and the profiler's advice.

 

[mamaeb]

Would someone be so kind as to link me to the email I keep reading about? I am confused about who this email is from, who it is to or how it is significant. Thank you so much!

http://ackerlaw.com/blog

it is an email that kyron's dad sent out from work

 

[Lava]

Just going to post this so its out there. No comment I guess.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/95700834.html

 

[s_finch]

A few weeks ago my son, who is special needs, unlocked a window (because doors were deadbolted for this very reason), crawled out onto the porch, closed window behind him and went on an "adventure". What time he left we don't know, we were still asleep as it was a Sat. morning. When we realized he wasn't in his room asleep it took us less than 5 minutes to realize he wasn't on our property or neighbors property and I called 911. It was over 2 hours later that he was found, about a mile away, wandering in the woods on a old rr bed. He was having a good time and thankfully his only injuries were scratches from vines. LE's dog was on his trail but he was actually found by friends (who were immediately out hunting in droves). That was the longest 2 hours of my life and maybe because I read on here I was thinking in "websleuths mode", I was frantic and crying but I was thinking,,,,,but my experience was less than 3 hours total. Days? I'd need a rubber room. BTW, one of the first things I did was invite deputies into my house to search for anything/everything because as we know the family is always the first suspects.

This case with Kyron really is different from the norm, or either the LE department is bonkers.