OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #7

[KaylynnCouture]

It could be one of those points kept close to the vest of LE but a very astute reader put 2 + 2 together !!!

ETA: Remember yesterday at a presser the Sheriff said he couldn't answer that question as to when the photo was taken. It made me wonder if it was taken when he delivered the project to his school.

Was he wearing that T-shirt when he disappeared?

I was under the impression that he was. According to his missing persons flier he was last seen wearing "a black tshirt with CSI in green letters, black cargo pants, white socks, and black sketchers sneakers with orange trim".

(http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US)

 

[Krisy]

Curious....

Does him family think he is the "type" to wander off? School seems like a less likely place to wander off from.(than say a park or store)


Kyron you are in my thoughts and prayers!!

 

[liz b.]

They have a criminal profiler on this case and I believe he told them to release Kyron's artwork as a means to humanize him to the kidnapper. I also believe that everything that LE and the family is saying or not saying is also per the direction of the profiler--that would include LE's statements that the family is free to talk yet the family not talking--it's all being done for a reason. One thing that I find startling that makes me think that it's an abduction is that LE has not stated that they are concerned with Kyron being out in the elements for such an extended period especially with the bad weather they had at the beginning--(and if I am wrong feel free to correct me). I also believe there is a strong possibility that the kidnapper knows the family, knows Kyron, possibly had a prior relationship with him (neighbor? babysitter?) and is a woman.

ITA agree about the being out in the elements part. They also mention dehydration,things like that. Pretty much always do... Also agree that whoever took Kyron probably knows him and in a way knows his family...

 

[Breathe]

Many are so dedicated to the search for Kyron that they aren’t even going home to eat with their families.

http://theportlander.com/2010/06/09/kyron-horman-searchers-in-need-of-food-water/


May God guide, protect and bless every single one of them.

 

[pinkpuddytat]

I have no need to hear from the family - I also think they are very smart for staying out of the media and wanting the focus to be on their missing son. And who knows what their emotional state is at this time - this is day 6, so my guess is that I would be in bed with the covers pulled over my head exhausted and hysterical with worry.

Not to mention that Kyron's father and stepmother have an 18-month-old daughter to look after. I remember during the Elizabeth Smart case, there were people criticizing the parents because Ed did virtually all the media appearances, while Lois stayed mostly out of sight. Never mind that she had *five* other children to look after on a day to day basis, including a son who was only about 3 years old.

 

[Dee10]

They have a criminal profiler on this case and I believe he told them to release Kyron's artwork as a means to humanize him to the kidnapper. I also believe that everything that LE and the family is saying or not saying is also per the direction of the profiler--that would include LE's statements that the family is free to talk yet the family not talking--it's all being done for a reason. One thing that I find startling that makes me think that it's an abduction is that LE has not stated that they are concerned with Kyron being out in the elements for such an extended period especially with the bad weather they had at the beginning--(and if I am wrong feel free to correct me). I also believe there is a strong possibility that the kidnapper knows the family, knows Kyron, possibly had a prior relationship with him (neighbor? babysitter?) and is a woman.

I really agree with your post, yet the BBM I am not so sure about. I am really scratching my head on this. They have no comment on the silliest things like was the picture taken that day or we believe he went missing on Friday, yet there are direct and clear about the family is too distraught type of thing. I find this extremely confusing. Unlike the other poster who said she is "dating the ransom theory" LOL loved that line; I am looking at...but only considering coffee at this point. This is such an unbelievable mystery. Who would marry any theory at this point:snooty:

 

[cluciano63]

But how on earth would a person who knew the family and wanted to hurt them think they would just happen to get an opportunity inside of a school, of all places? Unless they are VERY close to family, they would have no way of knowing if SM was going to spend the day at the school, stay for the talent show, etc...and hanging around would be dangerous, if she would recognize them. I'm just not seeing it, but I sure have been wrong in some other cases...

 

[AlexisFresca]

http://ackerlaw.com/blog

it is an email that kyron's dad sent out from work

Thank you!

 

[SuziQ]

I'm sitting her recalling something that was asked at one of the first pressers so I'm putting it here before I forget again.

A reporter asked Gates if Kyron had a history of running away or has run away in the past or something close to that. Gates gave his usual no comment type answer.

 

[Calliope]

Many are so dedicated to the search for Kyron that they aren’t even going home to eat with their families.

http://theportlander.com/2010/06/09/kyron-horman-searchers-in-need-of-food-water/


May God guide, protect and bless every single one of them.

Gates said today he has to order them to leave and get rest.

 

[CharlestonGal]

But how on earth would a person who knew the family and wanted to hurt them think they would just happen to get an opportunity inside of a school, of all places? Unless they are VERY close to family, they would have no way of knowing if SM was going to spend the day at the school, stay for the talent show, etc...and hanging around would be dangerous, if she would recognize them. I'm just not seeing it, but I sure have been wrong in some other cases...

I'm not seeing it either. If you are planning in advance to kidnap for ransom a specific 7 year old child I would think the riskiest plan would be to try it on a very busy morning at school with hundreds of people around.

There are much, much less riskier plans than that.

 

[AlexisFresca]

Just going to post this so its out there. No comment I guess.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/95700834.html

Yep, while related, thats a whole 'nother topic. Its a shame these days our damned if you do, damned if you don't. 'Nuff said.

 

[Breathe]

If Kyron did wonder off to find frogs or acorns, does LE put flood lights (like you see in the sky at night when a store is having a sale) out near the woods behind the school so he can find his way back? What if his glasses got knocked off by brush/tree branches when he went looking for treasures. He's just a little boy who is so scared wherever he is.

 

[DairyGirl]

Just a note from a local, I was listening to a local talk radio show this afternoon and the topic was why Kyron's family hasn't been visable, so we aren't the only ones to talk about it. Personally, if it were me I would be everywhere I could to get it out but since LE is handleing it so well they may not feel the need. They couldn't win no matter what they did so I think they are just talking LE's advice and keeping a low profile. I think the stepmother was smart to make her Facebook private, too many people were tearing apart every thing that was said or not said.
Also, blurb for a local new broadcast said they would be talking to Kyron's classmates. Leave those children alone. They are so desperate for a story and since the adults have the good sense to keep quiet they are going after little children. I am appalled.
Last, I am thinking that LE has no more a clue as to what happened to Kyron today then they did when they were first called on Friday afternoon but since they are putting so much time and resources into a ground search I am thinking that wandering off is still their predominent theory. I honestly don't think this is a kidnapping for ransom. Just doesn't make sense. I could be a crime of opportunity or someone known to the child but I don't see the family being important enough to try to get money out of. JMO.
It would not be impossible for Kyron to be alive after all this time if he did run off. Given the high grass and all the other features of the terrain they are searching it could be possible to have gone within a few feet of him and missed him. And he could have possibly made it much further then they think. I am so hoping this is the case and that they find him. If he was taken by someone else I would be sure he is very far away and there would be no point is searching where they are.

 

[eyes4crime]

O/T can't resist:

HEY HEY - STANLEY CUP BACK IN CHICAGO AFTER 49 YEARS!!!

Now, back to our little guy Kyron!

 

[Lava]

I'm not seeing it either. If you are planning in advance to kidnap for ransom a specific 7 year old child I would think the riskiest plan would be to try it on a very busy morning at school with hundreds of people around.

There are much, much less riskier plans than that.

Unless you want this specific child, and then it becomes harder based on their schedule.

 

[Breathe]

Gates said today he has to order them to leave and get rest.

I just thought it was amazing that there are still good people in this world who will sacrifice themselves for someone they've never met. It made my heart warm and my eyes mist.

 

[scandi]

I agree with everything you've said!

Me too Lava, but am wondering why she thinks the unsub is a woman unless she lost a child and Kyron reminds her of him.

 

[CCup]

Just out of curiousity, how many cases in the last 10 years have there for ransom? Do people really think they are going to get away with it?

 

[CharlestonGal]

I really agree with your post, yet the BBM I am not so sure about. I am really scratching my head on this. They have no comment on the silliest things like was the picture taken that day or we believe he went missing on Friday, yet there are direct and clear about the family is too distraught type of thing. I find this extremely confusing. Unlike the other poster who said she is "dating the ransom theory" LOL loved that line; I am looking at...but only considering coffee at this point. This is such an unbelievable mystery. Who would marry any theory at this point:snooty:

bbm. I think there has to be another reason. The SM went to the gym to work out today, so I don't think the police think the family is overly distraught. They (or at least one of them) seems to be functioning OK, so I don't know why the police would use the "too distraught" excuse. Maybe the police aren't willing to risk giving the family an opportunity to say the wrong thing in front of the meda? What that might be, I don't know.