OR - Militia members occupy federal building in Oregon after protest #2

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  • #341
Mark Baker ‏@MarkBakerRG 45s45 seconds ago Oregon, USA
Barbara Berg says she was I refuge compound w/ David Fry but couldn't get to come out. OSP moving everyone back now.

https://twitter.com/MarkBakerRG/with_replies
 
  • #342
Mark Baker ‏@MarkBakerRG 45s45 seconds ago Oregon, USA
Barbara Berg says she was I refuge compound w/ David Fry but couldn't get to come out. OSP moving everyone back now.

https://twitter.com/MarkBakerRG/with_replies


If he's the lone gunman left, why not just send in a SWAT team to evict him? Why should he get to continue to hold the facility hostage???:banghead::banghead::banghead:
 
  • #343
If he's the lone gunman left, why not just send in a SWAT team to evict him? Why should he get to continue to hold the facility hostage???:banghead::banghead::banghead:

Sounds like they're gearing up to do just that!
 
  • #344
Matt PearceVerified account
‏@mattdpearce
I'm talking to one of the Oregon occupiers still inside the refuge, David Fry. He says no one among the final four has surrendered.

https://twitter.com/mattdpearce
 
  • #345
Oregon State Police
Oregon State Police – ‏@ORStatePolice

Harney County- Media on Sodhouse Rd is blocking emergency vehicle access. Please do not park in the road.
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3:54 PM - 28 Jan 2016
 
  • #346
And, a written report on the Think Out Loud interview includes the audio interview:

Trapped Inside Malheur Refuge, Militants Desperate For Way Out
by OPB Staff OPB | Jan. 28, 2016 11:15 a.m. | Updated: Jan. 28, 2016 2:16 p.m.

“OPB’s Think Out Loud talked Thursday with David Fry and Sandy Anderson, two of the remaining militants inside the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

They offered an inside account of the negotiations taking place with the FBI, and the growing anxiety among the militants as tension mounts to make their next step.”​

“The option is you go out there and they get you and it’s a felony crime and it’s a prison sentence,” Fry told Think Out Loud host Dave Miller. “A lot of us are scared of that option.”

But firing weapons at federal law enforcement officers is still on the table.

“We’re not planning on using any guns. Like I said, we [want] to go home,” he said. “But if they want to attack us then we got to defend ourselves.”

One of the remaining occupiers is on camera saying "If they (FBI) get in your way - kill 'em!"

What did they think they were getting into. Oh right, they're just camping and not hurting anyone.
 
  • #347
Pat Dooris ‏@PatDooris 3m3 minutes ago Pennsylvania, USA
Harney county sheriff says situation NOT resolved.
 
  • #348
Ryan Haas – Verified account ‏@ryanjhaas

Press conference will be at 5:30. Next official info likely to come then. #Oregonstandoff
 
  • #349
This is an informative (and interesting) piece which ends with:

“Twenty years ago I prosecuted a tax protester who claimed – as one does – that the gold fringe on the courtroom flag made it an admiralty court. "I'll pretend you're a boat," the judge said dryly, and proceeded with the mundane business of the case.

Professionalism and protection of rights, not trading drama for drama, is the way to handle a self-styled revolutionary. It won't entertain the media, but it will refute the assertion that the system can't get it right.”​

How the government is charging Ammon Bundy and his self-styled Oregon militia members

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0129-white-oregon-militia-charges-20160129-story.html

Ken White is a partner at Brown White & Osborn LLP in Los Angeles. He is a former federal prosecutor and criminal defense attorney.

Excellent piece ib. Loved it.
 
  • #350
But firing weapons at federal law enforcement officers is still on the table.



One of the remaining occupiers is on camera saying "If they (FBI) get in your way - kill 'em!"

What did they think they were getting into. Oh right, they're just camping and not hurting anyone.

They are so stupid!!! If they really want to stay alive, then just cowboy up and put down the guns and surrender with your hands up and do the time, face the consequences for their big-boy actions. Otherwise they are asking for suicide-by-cop, and I for one won't feel sorry for the loss of these terrorists lives.
 
  • #351
Matt Pearce ‏@mattdpearce 5m5 minutes ago
Fry tells me in a phone interview the four remaining occupiers want to leave but have been told one of them, Sean, faces a criminal charge.

Matt Pearce ‏@mattdpearce 6m6 minutes ago
Fry tells me he's concerned that even if police let them go, they'll still be charged later.

Matt Pearce ‏@mattdpearce 3m3 minutes ago
Occupier David Fry tells me, "We’re willing to leave, they won’t let us go home."

He sure sounds different from when I started watching him yesterday morning streaming.
 
  • #352
This is going to become one of those moments that will get appropriated politically by some unscrupulous folks on the far right, and then sold to under-educated folks as truth/history, just like the Benghazi attacks.
 
  • #353
They are so stupid!!! If they really want to stay alive, then just cowboy up and put down the guns and surrender with your hands up and do the time, face the consequences for their big-boy actions. Otherwise they are asking for suicide-by-cop, and I for one won't feel sorry for the loss of these terrorists lives.

I don't think they want to be shot - I think they just want to talk tough. Eventually they're going to give in. They were stupid to sign up for this and now think they should be allowed to leave freely even though they broke the law. No way they didn't know they were breaking any laws. Come on.

In his latest video he said it was a peaceful revolution (right) and if he's convicted of a felony he'll lose his guns and right to vote. Poor thing. Meanwhile Bundy and friends are risking all of that and Finicum lost his life. The actual mm knew what they were getting into. The stragglers are idiots. Complete idiots.
 
  • #354
I think all that stuff that Matt Pearce is reporting on as if it just happened, is stuff that happened hours ago. Hmmm.
 
  • #355
Matt Pearce ‏@mattdpearce 5m5 minutes ago
Fry tells me in a phone interview the four remaining occupiers want to leave but have been told one of them, Sean, faces a criminal charge.

Matt Pearce ‏@mattdpearce 6m6 minutes ago
Fry tells me he's concerned that even if police let them go, they'll still be charged later.

Matt Pearce ‏@mattdpearce 3m3 minutes ago
Occupier David Fry tells me, "We’re willing to leave, they won’t let us go home."

He sure sounds different than when I started watching him yesterday morning streaming.
No, they're not really willing to leave unless they all can get off scot-free without facing the consequences for their actions of taking over federal property and destroying it!!! What chicken-faced little whiners!!!:chicken::chicken::whine::pullhair:
Sandy Anderson- standing by your man is gonna get you killed. Is is really worth it? And these men only value you for cooking, cleaning, laundry, and sex. Are you servicing them all???
 
  • #356
I think all that stuff that Matt Pearce is reporting on as if it just happened, is stuff that happened hours ago. Hmmm.

Doh, you're right. lol
 
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Earlier today, the only one of the four facing charges for sure was Sean Anderson, hence, The Last Dance video.

I think David Fry is seriously brain damaged.
 
  • #359
Here's the latest timeline from OregonLive. The news conference at 5:30 is mentioned. The situation is not resolved. I wonder what the medical vans are all about.

UPDATE 4:10 p.m. Thursday: Law enforcement officials announced that the "situation" has not been resolved and that the refuge remains closed. Though roadblocks have been removed, the action was for the convenience of locals, the announcement said. Police also warned that any cars parked on the highways near the refuge must be removed or risk being towed.
UPDATE 3:55 p.m. Thursday:
Medical vans arrive at the refuge.


http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-st...outs_want_charge_drop.html#incart_maj-story-1
 
  • #360
John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC 2m2 minutes ago
.@OPB just spoke to Bill Fry, David Fry's dad. Says son just called family. Told him he's still at the compound with three others

https://twitter.com/JohnLGC/with_replies

I caught a minute of a radio show earlier where DF's dad said something like he's been involved in causes before.
 
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