Our university teaches that Patsy did it

  • #101
Holdontoyourhat said:
I'm only pointing out that there is case evidence that the killer represents a foreign faction.

There's no case evidence that PR is a homosexual pedophilic filicidal parent. That's an outrageous claim pulled arbitrarily out of thin air.

And I am only pointing out that there is NO evidence that the killer represents a foreign faction. Because it was written in the note does not make it a fact. Like I said - the note said they had kidnapped JBR - not the case, so why so convinced they were telling the truth about the faction? It makes no sense.

Who said Patsy was a homosexual? Or a Pedophile? The crime scene was staged beyond belief.

Tricia, or indeed anyone who may know - didn't the FBI state that the crime scene was staged? Or am I dreaming that?
 
  • #102
Brefie said:
...I am only pointing out that there is NO evidence that the killer represents a foreign faction. Because it was written in the note does not make it a fact. Like I said - the note said they had kidnapped JBR - not the case, so why so convinced they were telling the truth about the faction? It makes no sense.

Who said Patsy was a homosexual? Or a Pedophile? The crime scene was staged beyond belief.
You are right of course Brefie. But the problem is that facts and objective reasoning don't get us far in debating positions that have become tenets of faith.
 
  • #103
You said it, Lacy.
 
  • #104
Brefie said:
And I am only pointing out that there is NO evidence that the killer represents a foreign faction. Because it was written in the note does not make it a fact. Like I said - the note said they had kidnapped JBR - not the case, so why so convinced they were telling the truth about the faction? It makes no sense.

Who said Patsy was a homosexual? Or a Pedophile? The crime scene was staged beyond belief.

Tricia, or indeed anyone who may know - didn't the FBI state that the crime scene was staged? Or am I dreaming that?
Saying there's no evidence of a foreign faction is blatantly wrong, since the RN actually uses the expression 'foreign faction' and was obviously written by the perp. How you can say there's 'no evidence' is beyond me.:liar:
 
  • #105
Holdontoyourhat said:
Saying there's no evidence of a foreign faction is blatantly wrong, since the RN actually uses the expression 'foreign faction' and was obviously written by the perp. How you can say there's 'no evidence' is beyond me.:liar:
With that line of reasoning.....I am a millionaire. Ok...now it is in writing, therefore it must be true. I can't wait until the bank opens on Monday. I will bring in this post as proof when they refuse to give me my money. :laugh:
 
  • #106
deandaniellws said:
With that line of reasoning.....I am a millionaire. Ok...now it is in writing, therefore it must be true. I can't wait until the bank opens on Monday. I will bring in this post as proof when they refuse to give me my money. :laugh:
Hey, there's evidence the perp represents a foreign faction, OK? Can you read?!?:waitasec:
 
  • #107
Holdontoyourhat said:
Hey, there's evidence the perp represents a foreign faction, OK? Can you read?!?:waitasec:
So....I wrote I was a millionaire. Can you read? I guess because I wrote it, it must be true? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: LOL.
 
  • #108
deandaniellws said:
So....I wrote I was a millionaire. Can you read? I guess because I wrote it, it must be true? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: LOL.
OK whatever. I can't beat that many smileys. IMO the RN is a mix of truth and lies.
 
  • #109
Then how do you know the part about the foreign faction is true?

Jeez - it's like beating a dead horse.
 
  • #110
Brefie said:
Then how do you know the part about the foreign faction is true?

Jeez - it's like beating a dead horse.
Now come on Brefie! It was written, so it is true.:D I already printed a copy of my post and folded it nice and neatly placed it in my purse. Want to come along with me Monday when the bank opens? :innocent:
 
  • #111
Holdontoyourhat said:
Hey, there's evidence the perp represents a foreign faction, OK? Can you read?!?:waitasec:

I'm open to believing in a foreign faction. But, what are you
terming "evidence", aside from the perp's own claim?
 
  • #112
deandaniellws said:
Now come on Brefie! It was written, so it is true.:D I already printed a copy of my post and folded it nice and neatly placed it in my purse. Want to come along with me Monday when the bank opens? :innocent:

You're darn right I do. I am a millionaire, too.

Oh the fun we will have!
 
  • #113
deandaniellws said:
So....I wrote I was a millionaire. Can you read? I guess because I wrote it, it must be true? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: LOL.
Its not that complicated, really. If you tell me a postal worker did it, I'd say there's no evidence of that. If you tell me a representative of a foreign faction did it, I'd say there is evidence of that, the perps own words.

To restate, IMO the perps a middle-aged male, foreign national. I'm choosing to believe the foreign faction aspect of the RN because nothing has happened to contradict it. I'm entitled to my opinion, like you're entitled to yours, even though my opinion doesn't scandalize the R's with arbitrary accusations, and points elsewhere.
 
  • #114
You are dead right you are entitled to your opinion. But when you state it as fact, then you have opened the floodgates with your own key. IMO.
 
  • #115
Brefie said:
You are dead right you are entitled to your opinion. But when you state it as fact, then you have opened the floodgates with your own key. IMO.
Fact: The ransom note author wrote that he represented a foreign faction. Thats evidence, just like the garrote is evidence.
 
  • #116
Holdontoyourhat said:
Fact: The ransom note author wrote that he represented a foreign faction. Thats evidence, just like the garrote is evidence.

Because the author said it therefore it's true? Is that what you are suggesting?


You are right. It is evidence. Evidence of a criminally unsophisticated woman writing the note thinking she will throw off the cops.
 
  • #117
Holdontoyourhat said:
Fact: The ransom note author wrote that he represented a foreign faction. Thats evidence, just like the garrote is evidence.

The note is evidence - anything written in the note is just words.......should we ignore the body found in the basement because the note said kidnapping? Because now there is evidence that it was a kidnapping not a murder? HUH???
 
  • #118
Tricia said:
Because the author said it therefore it's true? Is that what you are suggesting?
The foreign faction aspect of the RN appears to be true. Its not just because the RN author said it, its because after over 8 years nothing has happened to contradict the perp's remark:
  1. No repeat crime in the US.
  2. No DNA match.
  3. No handwriting match.
  4. No witnesses coming forward.
  5. No admissions of guilt.
  6. No charges filed against any local.
  7. No domestic leads.
 
  • #119
Brefie said:
The note is evidence - anything written in the note is just words.......should we ignore the body found in the basement because the note said kidnapping? Because now there is evidence that it was a kidnapping not a murder? HUH???
How do you know there was never a kidnapping intended? What facts do you have that indicate the kidnapping was always a ruse? How do you know that at the time the RN was written, the perp's intention wasn't kidnapping? In a botched kidnapping, do you think that the perp was going to bother to update the RN to keep the reader informed on what ultimately happened to JBR?
 
  • #120
Holdontoyourhat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brefie
The note is evidence - anything written in the note is just words.......should we ignore the body found in the basement because the note said kidnapping? Because now there is evidence that it was a kidnapping not a murder? HUH???

How do you know there was never a kidnapping intended? What facts do you have that indicate the kidnapping was always a ruse? How do you know that at the time the RN was written, the perp's intention wasn't kidnapping? In a botched kidnapping, do you think that the perp was going to bother to update the RN to keep the reader informed on what ultimately happened to JBR?
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