P.I. Says He Videotaped Area Where Caylee Was Later Found

[MADJGNLAW]

I know D.Casey worked early on for the Anthony's and now said he worked for Baez first then after his contracted ended with Baez he started working with the Anthony's, but the other P.I. is the one I am confused about. Who was hired when? It is said that Hoover worked for the Anthony's.


The private investigator was apparently working with the Anthony family at the time. Private investigator J. Hoover says he recorded the wooded area where Caylee Marie Anthony's remains were found about a month before they were found. http://www.wftv.com/news/18380933/detail.html

 

[Anais]

His last name had to be Casey, didn't it. Couldn't be Smith or Jones or Padilla, could it. Like this all isn't a nightmare to keep track of anyhow. :doh:

LOL! Of course it did. If it's not either bizarre or from another planet it has nothing to do with the Casey Anthony Case!!!

 

[trac]

I haven't heard anything or read anything that the ACTUAL tape was handing over to LE - you know what I think may happen? "Ooops I can't find the tape - but I did tape it and I know and because I'm a PI you have to believe me'

I wonder if this person is an ACTUAL private investigator and licensed

 

[Wudge]

So, Wudge where do you think the post should be posted? I don't post half of the things I would like to post cause it be OT and someone would be rude rather than nice said "please post under another Thread". SORRY I am OT.

Miss James commented on criminal defense attorneys. I responded with a short post, which was not a big deal to me.

However, it seems to have bothered another poster. Still, if the concern was truly about going OT, it would be proper to start with the poster who first went OT instead of responders.

 

[tfrohning]

tfrohning aweee it's okay now and then to verb OT. It most certainly will not kill anyone. I always just put a wee warning at the top of my post that it's gonna be off topic. Then they are forewarned. (I usually look for a thread on said topic also.)

Anyways don't take it too seriously! I agree with the OT post you put up and enjoys your posts!

Thanks, I leave it at that:blowkiss:

 

[Wudge]

How can that be? If someone other than the accused or their lawyer knows where a dead body is how is that privileged? I just don't get how the anthony's aren't obligated to inform LE about this fact?

The work product doctrine extends beyond attorney-client privilege.

 

[ecs5298]

The work product doctrine extends beyond attorney-client privilege.

So let me get this straight. Since he made this video while working for someone and the video can be used to prove that a felony occurred and is being concealed by several parties, you're saying LE has no right to the tape and it cannot be used as evidence in a court of law.

If this is the case then I guess we could extrapolate that I could be hired to video tape someone being murdered and I would have no culpability or responsibility to inform LE that this murder occurred simply because it was a "work product" that I was contracted for.

Also, answer me this about attorney/client privilege. If the client tells the attorney specific details of the crime that proves the clients guilt is the attorney obligated to inform someone of these details ? Or can he/she vigorously defend their client knowing that they are helping to free a murderer. If this is the case then when did stop being about fairness and justice and start becoming who can play the blame/spin game better??

Inquiring minds want to know!

 

[Wudge]

So, if the A's (being the client) turn this info over to LE, it doesn't sound like JB can have the judge appoint someone to oversee LE's questioning of the PI. Is that correct? TYIA

Clients can yield the privilege.

As to applicable case particulars, we don't have the facts. However, based on what I think and for what that's worth, if JB were to motion for a special master so as to protect a prior privilege that he had with the PI, I would not find that to be unreasonable.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't understand this PI working for Baez at all. Baez clearly said he was ONLY representing Casey Anthony in this and he had no connection to the A fam. He has maintained this posture throughout. Now, he has decided to claim that he confered with the PI or PIs as the case may be. Can't have it both ways! So did he or didn't he cross that line and he does have a connection to the A fam after all?!

Wudge! (shaking my head at Wudge) Going OT is not a sin.

 

[Wudge]

SNIP

Also, answer me this about attorney/client privilege. If the client tells the attorney specific details of the crime that proves the clients guilt is the attorney obligated to inform someone of these details ? Or can he/she vigorously defend their client knowing that they are helping to free a murderer.

SNIP

Inquiring minds want to know!

First question: No.

Second question: Yes.

 

[Wudge]

SNIP

Wudge! (shaking my head at Wudge) Going OT is not a sin.

I agree.

If you read the posts closely in sequence, you will find that I was not the poster who complained about going OT.

HTH

 

[maur33]

The work product doctrine extends beyond attorney-client privilege.

There has to be a finer line than this, it all sounds just to easy and sleazy.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I agree.

If you read the posts closely in sequence, you will find that I was not the poster who complained about going OT.

HTH

:blowkiss: Sorry. Just got home from a long trip and didn't read them all. My bad.

 

[Wudge]

There has to be a finer line than this, it all sounds just to easy and sleazy.

Hypo:

A disbarred and long retired attorney awakens at 6 AM and soon finds his wife of 50 years with a knife through her heart in the kitchen. He calls 911 and LE soon arrives. The husband finds nothing has been taken from the home and LE soon tells him that they can find no forced entry nor any open entry points into the home.

The husband intuitively recognizes that he is almost assuredly the prime suspect.

He immediately calls a PI who quickly shows up. He tells the PI that if it comes to trial, he will defend himself, and he retains the PI and gives him a long to do list.

The husband is charged with murder and prosecutors challenge the work product privilege. The Court should hold?

 

[reeseeva]

I agree.

If you read the posts closely in sequence, you will find that I was not the poster who complained about going OT. :boohoo:

HTH

No but attacking the poster about "who he is" ( totally irrelevant) & then putting him on your "Ignore list" with an ultimatum that he PM you is Obnoxious! and quite arrogant!

 

[kathyn2]

Why was everyone tipped off to the area the body was found in except for LE?? Why was the PI tipped off? The meter reader? Casey's friend? And probably the family who had the PI working for them. Everyone but LE hanging around this area. Very strange to me. How could this be and where has LE been while all these people are scouring around the area where the remains were found in this case.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

No but attacking the poster about "who he is" ( totally irrelevant) & then putting him on your "Ignore list" with an ultimatum that he PM you is Obnoxious! and quite arrogant!

Good point.

 

[ecs5298]

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The husband is charged with murder and prosecutors challenge the work product privilege. The Court should hold?

Ok...take this a step further. While the PI is working for the retired attorney, who is representing himself, he video tapes his client stating "After 50 years of her meatloaf, I couldn't take it anymore, I stabbed her in the heart, put on my jammies, watched Leno and fell into a peaceful sleep"

You're telling me that just because the PI is working for this guy, he has to keep quiet about the murder. Or even better, at the time the video tape was made, his contract with the attorney had expired, 3 months later the PI is drinking with a cop buddy and tells the cop about the video taped confession and no one can do a thing about it?

If these are the rules then the rules need to be changed. Then again I've never subscribed to the "it's better that 100 guilty men go free than one innocent man go to jail" Walk into any prison and all you will find is innocent people, just ask them, they'll tell you. The cops framed every single one of them.

 

[SuziQ]

Why was everyone tipped off to the area the body was found in except for LE?? Why was the PI tipped off? The meter reader? Casey's friend? And probably the family who had the PI working for them. Everyone but LE hanging around this area. Very strange to me. How could this be and where has LE been while all these people are scouring around the area where the remains were found in this case.

I haven't heard that anyone was tipped off. Plenty of people tuned into that area, including many of our sleuther's. In fact TES and LE was there. They like everyone else except the MM was kept away from the body because of water.

ETA: and even the MM was kept away from searching for several months because of water.

 

[SuziQ]

Ok...take this a step further. While the PI is working for the retired attorney, who is representing himself, he video tapes his client stating "After 50 years of her meatloaf, I couldn't take it anymore, I stabbed her in the heart, put on my jammies, watched Leno and fell into a peaceful sleep"

You're telling me that just because the PI is working for this guy, he has to keep quiet about the murder. Or even better, at the time the video tape was made, his contract with the attorney had expired, 3 months later the PI is drinking with a cop buddy and tells the cop about the video taped confession and no one can do a thing about it?

If these are the rules then the rules need to be changed. Then again I've never subscribed to the "it's better that 100 guilty men go free than one innocent man go to jail" Walk into any prison and all you will find is innocent people, just ask them, they'll tell you. The cops framed every single one of them.

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but...my understanding is knowledge of a crime overides any confidentiality for a PI. There may be a civil matter further down the road between the PI and who he was working for.