PA - Assassination attempt, shooting injures former POTUS Donald Trump, leaves 1 spectator deceased two in critical condition, 13 July 2024 #5

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USSS held its own briefing at 1000 with USSS assets at the site.26 USSS counter snipers and LLE sniper assets spoke with each other following these briefings, but witnesses testified to the Task Force that there was no broader briefing among USSS and local or state partners, nor were they aware of an intent to hold such a briefing. In fact, a PSP trooper who was assigned to the USSS Command Post for the rally was invited to the 1000 USSS briefing by one USSS agent, then subsequently asked to leave by another.

 
I'm just not buying it. Assuming someone is associated with the movement (because of a homemade license plate?) is a lot different than having evidence to document it as fact.

"The movement" is not formally organized, has no membership rolls, no leadership hierarchy, and.... no codified set of f beliefs. Likewise, people come and go, some buy into nearly all "teachings"- or just accept a the ones the suit them the most. Some members may formerly declare teir membership. Most others, however, never do.

As a result, its probably very hard to prove that anybody is a member- well, other than the most outspoken ones.

Fake license plates, however, is a pretty common stunt of the bunch because it hits on so many movement ideas: Rejection of authority, the "right" to travel with out restrictions, and... a rejection of taxation.

But, wait, there is more.... punishments for fake plates are traffic based and therefore, light. Thus, one can, say, "resist" / rattle the "goobermint's" cage with out risking alot. Super attractive to believers who want cool brownie points from other believers- but who do not want to take the big plunges with far more jail time.

I agree that the assumption of membership cant likely be proven (no membership rolls, suspect has never self affirmed membership. But, I would say that the homemade plates are a strong indicator of him having accepted at least some movement "teachings".
 
Noteworthy re today's Task Force Report is new interviews with the local LEOs. Previous reports seemed to just rely on the locals' radio transcripts.

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[Sgt Nicol] I noticed that Crooks was standing out beside that picnic table and there was a backpack sitting on the ground... He grabbed that backpack, and then he took off running... Yes [I saw him run with the backpack]... Yeah [he turned the corner]... Once he went in between the buildings, I could not see him anymore. And at that point I had then radioed to communication command. I said, Hey, suspect spotted rear of building. Grabbed the backpack and ran in between the buildings.


The running part is a brand new story.

[last week's DHS Review]
Page ix of Appendix A

[Sgt Nicol at 6:02 PM] Alright subject is in between the AGR buildings; he has a backpack now; he just went toward Sheetz.

 
Correcting myself...
Senate interviewed Sgt Nicol on July 26 and August 5.
House Task Force interviewed Sgt Nicol on September 11.

Besides "running" being a new (likely made up in September) story, look at this!

Senate Page 50

[Sgt Nicol] the Beaver County sniper that was posted in the AGR building told the Committee that neither he nor his partner in the AGR building were aware of anyone on the roof before shots were fired.


House Page 43

Civilians on the AGR property were becoming increasingly aware of Crooks at this point. Beaver ESU Witness 3 [Sgt Nicol] testified to the Task Force that he saw the crowd—which had gathered to watch the rally—turn away from the stage and face the AGR complex, after the former President had started his speech. Beaver ESU Witness 3 assumed the crowd had turned to watch law enforcement engage Crooks on the roof.


Sorry, but one would have to be crazy to believe a single word Sgt Nicol says...
 
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I find it inexcusable that nothing further has been done to investigate the assassination attempt of now President Trump. Bucks county is now getting additional attention from the handling of the election ballots. Is there a connection that should be investigated? MOO.
 

Arizona man charged with threatening to kill Donald Trump​

Manuel Tamayo-Torres is accused of posting videos on a “near-daily basis” in which he accused Trump and the president-elect’s family members of kidnapping and sex-trafficking his children.

An Arizona man has been arrested after he allegedly posted videos online that showed him brandishing an AR-15-style rifle and threatening to kill President-elect Donald Trump and members of Trump's family, authorities said.

Manuel Tamayo-Torres posted videos on a "near-daily basis" in which he accused Trump and the president-elect's family members of kidnapping and sex-trafficking his children, according to charging documents filed in federal court in Arizona. One video was shot at the site of a Trump rally held at the Desert Diamond Arena in Glendale on Aug. 23, the documents said.

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whose children? His (Manuel's) or Trump's own children??? Unclear what he meant.

Manuel’s children.

From another article….

Investigators said Tamayo-Torres claimed he saw Trump and Secret Service agents kidnap his daughter at the Glendale rally.

 
On now

 
Heated exchange between
@RepPatFallon
and U.S. Secret Service Acting Director Rowe.Rowe: "Do not invoke 9/11 for political purposes!"Fallon: "I'm not. I'm invoking -"Rowe: "You are, sir. You are way out of line!"


I think Rowe was out of line. Fallon put up a photo of 911 2024 ceremony. Biden, Trump and about 50 "other people" and Rowe but no SS detail. When ask what's wrong with this photo, Rowe became defensive, said, the SS are on the perimeter. Then he went off ....he was at 911, never did clarify why SS were not near the Protectees. He just don't get it.

Moo....I watched in entirety
 
On now

All my option... I had high hopes for Rowe, that changed instantly today.

Rowe ....."I wanna put the Secret back in SS."

The chairman stated ....I want to put the Service back in SS.

I watched all the committee meetings for the task force, Senate and House. All have repeatedly ask for Rowe to communicate with the public. Grassley and others in the first hearing requested he do a pressed weekly, never happened. Still no joint communication system, he's looking at several, the committee has repeatedly recommended he use same as DOD and Homeland for compatibility purposes. Much of the 290 million emergency funds was spend to pay staff from other agencies. He's bumped the staff 400, but will have have 200 enrolling for protection detail next year. Sounds like the 400 are "other" and not protection detail.

Some made it clear today, the agency must change.
Moo ...
 
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I think Rowe was out of line. Fallon put up a photo of 911 2024 ceremony. Biden, Trump and about 50 "other people" and Rowe but no SS detail. When ask what's wrong with this photo, Rowe became defensive, said, the SS are on the perimeter. Then he went off ....he was at 911, never did clarify why SS were not near the Protectees. He just don't get it.

Moo....I watched in entirety

I am surprised that Rowe would tell a member of Congress that he or she is out of line as he/she is attending a Congressional meeting to present a report or for any other reason. Seems like an overreaction and inappropriate.
 
I am surprised that Rowe would tell a member of Congress that he or she is out of line as he/she is attending a Congressional meeting to present a report or for any other reason. Seems like an overreaction and inappropriate.
Moo....Rowe wants praise and to feel special because he is a "public servant".

He was way out of line today, had that been you or I, Capital Police would escort us out. He don't get HE works for Congress. If I had spoken to my boss, as he did I've been fired on the spot.

He's got to go, he's not going to change, got to bigger ego, no respect for Congress, and does not accept criticism. I've noticed anytime suggestions or criticism in any of the hearings he becomes extremely defensive. To me, not a good sign of a leader.

Moo...
 
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