GUILTY PA - Christina Regusters for kidnap, rape of 5yo girl, Philadelphia, 14 Jan 2013 - #1

[Dr. Know?]

Winning a big money suit against the school costs the tax payers in that district. Public schools aren't like companies. :twocents:

We all pay for education of our children and always will. It's what you want to put into it. If you are single, I can see how you feel though. jmo

 

[Trino]

NR's school is huge. I took a google drive around the block. It takes up almost a complete city block. Here's Chelsea's:
http://goo.gl/maps/YdUPZ

Thanks for the drive around. With so much traffic isn't it odd that no one has come forward to say they saw the abductor and N walking down a street? It was nearly 9:00a; surely, someone should have seen them.

 

[WillenFan21]

I could see if LE was ignoring this case, but that is hardly happening. I don't understand why the mother would ever need a lawyer, personally.

Maybe something is going down with the father or with this case that we don't know about? Or like someone said could be she just wants N safe.

 

[believe09]

Just curious and taking the temperature- none of you would consider suing a school system who had such unbearably poor procedures in place that they allowed someone to walk out of the door with a 5 year old who then suffered goodness knows what at the hands of her abductor(s)?

Hiring an attorney doesnt mean that she is going to bleed the district dry. Correct me if I am wrong, but arent the details of little one's experiences still under wraps? No one knows what the toll will be on a child who is at the age of reason who was taken from some place where she should have been completely safe and subjected to something terrible.

This event needs to be taken very very very seriously. The school rightfully should bear this burden as should the district. JMVHO.

 

[believe09]

We shouldnt be using the full name of any minor here at WS without permission from Admin I believe.

 

[Abby Normal Again]

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/20...olice-searching-for-missing-teen-with-autism/

Her name is Chelsea. She was last seen Monday on 60th street. Nailla's school is on 60th and cedar. Could this be the teenager?

I suspect if it's a missing teen, it's someone who's been gone a little longer. Just assuming she didn't return home... I don't think if she was taken the same day that there was enough time to get her enough mental control to keep her from bolting too. JMO.

Winning a big money suit against the school costs the tax payers in that district. Public schools aren't like companies. :twocents:

And every district in the country will react to a financial liability in a way that they may not for a situation alone. It's easy to say "oh, that wouldn't happen here because...." but as soon as lawyers get involved, things change.

I'm not saying it's right- just saying it's the way of the world as we know. A lawsuit will change more on a national level than the event itself. Public entities (and many private) won't prioritize something until the financial risk of not prioritizing it makes it practical.

JMO.

 

[tlcya]

I don't understand. How does hiring a high-profile attorney help to bring the perpetrator or perpetrators to justice? What is their job at this point?

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I could see if LE was ignoring this case, but that is hardly happening. I don't understand why the mother would ever need a lawyer, personally.

I was puzzling over that as well til I read the bottom of the article which describers this attorney's experience in big money personal injury lawsuits. I knew ya'll would read it for yourselves and come to your own conclusions.

Unless you're going to file a large civil suit...Even if it is last on the list...

I am wondering just why mom feels she needs a lawyer....

I was hoping someone on this thread could share a viable reason...

The only cases I see parents lawyering up is if there is a possibility that the parents may be associated with the crime... and I have not read anywhere that LE thinks this mom is involved in this kidnapping...

Do we see a lawsuit towards the school coming?

I remember on one of the facebook pages.... very soon after the kidnapping.... a poster indicating that the school or district should pay for the child's college education since they allowed her to be kidnapped...

Just some thoughts...

You left off the third item on the agenda from that article.....

Wowzaa! Tom kline is a very impressive personal injury lawyer! Check out those win$!
http://www.klinespecter.com/Kline.html

ding ding ding

There is one whopping lawsuit coming eventually but Mr. Kline doesn't want to put the cart before the horse. First he will probably guide through the other things, such as dealing with press, paid appearances, etc. MOO IMO etc etc

 

[tlcya]

I won't blame this mom if she sues the school district.

I am not a fan of frivolous lawsuits but I don't consider a suit against the school to be frivolous. And yes, I know that ultimately taxpayers end up holding the bag, but public schools should be held accountable for the safety of our children and IMO glaring mistakes were made, dangerous mistakes.

Perhaps she is keeping a lawsuit in mind for the future but for now it may just be a matter of navigating the press, demands for interviews, and the legal, court, law enforcement waters.

 

[The Cheese]

We need a recount!

- Police are sorting through complicated family relationships in the abduction of a 5-year-old girl to rule out all possible suspects, sources said Thursday.

- The girl's father, Terry Robinson, has been interviewed twice by police, including on the night of the girl's disappearance, and again Wednesday night by Special Victims Unit investigators, police sources said. The father has passed a polygraph, routine in child-abduction cases, and is not considered a suspect, sources said. He does not see N <modsnip> every day, according to the sources.

Investigators are in the process of locating and interviewing seven women Robinson identified as his current or former wives, plus any relationships the mother had - normal investigative steps to determine whether the kidnapping may have been domestic-related, sources said.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/l...elations_reviewed_after_girl_s_abduction.html

 

[The Cheese]

Well known attorney Tom Kline now represents the five year old girl and her mother.


http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/20617278/new-securi

 

[tlcya]

I think it has reached a point where the schools should have the same type of security that a court house has upon entrance. Then the person wanting to pick the child up would have to be ID'd, and the child coming to the parent...without the parent or person ever coming actually inside the school. It could all take place in a small secured area of the school. If wackos are still wanting to breach the school, then there is nothing stopping them from blowing out windows or doors as we've already seen.

Ironic how much we spend to keep prisoners safe, yet our most vunerable are being attacked on a daily basis somehow, someway.
JMO

But then what about transparency? If I am required by law to turn my child over to the education system, that education system better be prepared to have me pop in or sit in on a class session, etc. How would these new proposed security measures affect that?

A school I and other parents, grandparents, etc can't go past the front doors of is not a school I want my child attending either. It creates an atmosphere of mistrust for me if I am not welcomed at and in my childrens' schools.

MOO

I don't have the answers, just concerns.

 

[jjenny]

Who pays IF the lawyer loses?

No one. Lawyer gets percentage of the award. If there is no award, lawyer doesn't get paid.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

If my husband or ex-husband or father of my child went for a 2nd interview, had a search warrant served on him for his phone, had his 5 girlfriends called in for an interview, I would not be able to get to a lawyer fast enough, to find out what I could do to block his access to my traumatized child until things were resolved, especially if he had a visitation order.

When was dad called in for the 2nd interview? When did mom call the attorney? Seems they happened pretty close together.

MOO

This would be, to me, a very valid reason to get a lawyer...

Maybe mom is concerned with what may transpire with dad's situation...

JMO

 

[tlcya]

The father has passed a polygraph, routine in child-abduction cases, and is not considered a suspect, sources said. He does not see N<modsnip> every day, according to the sources.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/l...elations_reviewed_after_girl_s_abduction.html

Sounds as if the parents are not a couple and haven't been for a while if N is 5 and dad has up to 7 girlfriends (either consecutively or simultaneously). MOO

The level of involvement of dad in N's life is still an unknown. Also MOO

 

[tlcya]

Another reason mom may have gotten a lawyer that occurred to me just now. While this whole event has thrown mom's life into chaos, we have no idea where she works and she may need to get back to work, work is a concern for those who are not independently wealthy. Maybe she needs help navigating how to take a leave but is worried about losing her job. Sometimes simply having an attorney or official mouthpiece makes people or employers more willing to give you what is yours by right.

He may also be instructing her on her rights as far as demands she can and cannot make from the school regarding N's return.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Chelsea had been missing almost exactly 2 years ago as well & found 9 days later. I have not found anything about the circumstances of that disappearance other than that she was missing from about the same area. Hoping they will find her safe much quicker this time! http://www.justice4caylee.org/t10355-chelsea-ramsey-12-yo-west-philadelphia-pa

:welcome: Phx...:wagon:

thank you for this background info. of CRJ! :seeya:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

bbm (if I did it right!) She needs help taking care of her daughter so she hires a high-profile lawyer known to win lots of money for his clients? I think I'd be finding the best child psychologist to help me help my daughter. Sueing the school for a ton of money would be the last thing on my mind just a couple of days after all of this.

This choice of counseling for an abducted daughter is puzzling to me, too! :waitasec:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Thanks for the drive around. With so much traffic isn't it odd that no one has come forward to say they saw the abductor and N walking down a street? It was nearly 9:00a; surely, someone should have seen them.

I agree... It seems like in that busy residential area there would be at least one... And probably more... Who would have seen the abductor with NR...

JMO

 

[The Cheese]

The father has passed a polygraph, routine in child-abduction cases, and is not considered a suspect, sources said. He does not see N<modsnip> every day, according to the sources.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/l...elations_reviewed_after_girl_s_abduction.html

Sounds as if the parents are not a couple and haven't been for a while if N is 5 and dad has up to 7 girlfriends (either consecutively or simultaneously). MOO

The level of involvement of dad in N's life is still an unknown. Also MOO

My bold -

The article above says 7 wives.

 

[SweetT]

This choice of counseling for an abducted daughter is puzzling to me, too! :waitasec:

Maybe she financially doesnt have money for the counselor..they are very expensive I know. So she hires the attorney to help her with finding a counselor as well as suing the school and whatever else she needs to do.