GUILTY PA - Christina Regusters for kidnap, rape of 5yo girl, Philadelphia, 14 Jan 2013 - #2

[Yoda]

Statistically speaking in this country, a terrorist act is much more likely to be perpetrated by a Christian than a Muslim. Eric Rudolph, Timothy McVeigh, etc.

Muslims are just the latest immigrant group that is "different" so they get blamed for everything. 150 years ago it was the Irish. 100 years ago it was the Italians. 25 years ago it was hispanics. It's simple xenophobia. Don't let it suck you in. We have to build bridges between our communities, not dig deeper trenches.

Please note, this was not intended to be a scolding or accusatory comment. I believe that all people are xenophobic on some level. The human mind likes to make order out of chaos. We, as a melting pot, need to make a very conscious effort to overcome the very human urge to categorize and catalogue people.

I agree. The only thing I know about Muslims, burkas, no snitch, is from tv, media, Internet. And that makes my view very skewed. I appreciate all the wonderful posters on here that are taking the time and patience to educate me. NR's town/home/etc environment is so different from mine that I don't feel I can contribute in helping find the perpetrators. But, selfishly, I don't want to leave this thread because what I am learning is interesting, and, I think, decreasing my stereotypical view. Again, thank you.

 

[tlcya]

doesn't matter, the scanner itself is down right now (technical difficulties) so the scanner thread being opened will do us little good as there would be nothing to post.

Hopefully scanner will come back up soon. Status: The PPD Citywide feed is down due to the scanner not tracking voice channels properly. Will try to fix this ASAP. Thank You http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=4603

 

[starry77]

Learning about others is the first step to building that bridge to them. Please stay on the thread.

 

[amberdawn723]

Updated the map to show the specific block of interest......
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=204150161293193815171.0004d36c27fb975e3cf0a&msa=0&ll=39.954063,-75.241756&spn=0.011514,0.026157

There's a LOT of homes on these streets!

 

[belleyes]

Agreed, N is doing a great job of helping with this investigation it seem, and her a traumatized 5 year old to boot.

Very proud of our victim in this case and very thankful there are trained forensic interviewers to assist in that endeavor. I wish we didn't need such people with such training but boy am I glad they exist.

ITA I just wanted to expand on this thought. I have heard LE say that N will never be the same. They are right, but being a victim isn't the end of the story. I have seen so many victims go on to save other potential victims (look up Alicia's Project). I have seen 5 year old babies bring down sleazy perps...in court. I know children who have witnessed horrific tragedy imposed by rivaling gang members....yet they go on and no one even knows what they've experience because they are so well adjusted. In my experience children are amazingly resilient and have a strong will to live. N appears to be a fighter and I have high hope of recovery for her. It can be very empowering for a victim to have a voice in putting the perp behind bars. I hope if this case is cracked open because of the info obtained from N they put the reward in a trust for her.

 

[jjenny]

I don't think LE is talking about mental damage when they said she might never be back to normal.

 

[belimom]

As far as releasing the info that they have narrowed it down to one street and may be closing in on a suspect, I hope LE is one step ahead of that. Doesn't seem very prudent to let the public - and therefore the perp(s) - know that you're on your way/closing in on them. MOO

 

[belleyes]

I don't think LE is talking about mental damage when they said she might never be back to normal.

Sorry I wasn't very specific. I figured they were eluding to physical and emotional damage. I was too.

 

[belimom]

Updated the map to show the specific block of interest......
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=204150161293193815171.0004d36c27fb975e3cf0a&msa=0&ll=39.954063,-75.241756&spn=0.011514,0.026157

There's a LOT of homes on these streets!

bbm

I agree --- which is why I have a hard time believing no one saw anything. Maybe they did - and maybe that's why LE can now narrow it down to one street.

Dang - I have to get up early for work tomorrow. I'm gonna hang here as long as I can. Hopefully something will happen tonight or tomorrow.

 

[Abby Normal Again]

From matou's link above:



I'm on the fence about this. It's a tough call, unless there is reason to believe the principal herself was lax. Otherwise, it's pretty sad to see a principal take the fall for something a *substitute* did, unless they're finding fault with the person being allowed inside and being told to go to the office rather than being escorted to the office.

At the school I work at, there's pretty heavy security. But once you're signed in, the office is through another set of metal doors and then to the right. In other words, out of site of the security guards. They can tell someone 'go to the office' but have no idea if they actually did or not. I wonder if there's a similar weak link at N's school?

If they are fielding complaints about a culture of relaxed standards, a history and pattern of this nature, it would explain why the principle would be under fire. Principles are there for a number of reasons, upholding safety standards via staff instruction and job specifications is one of those reasons. I see no reason she shouldn't have to answer if they are seeing that it was school culture not to align to district safety procedures.

I don't know that this is the case, I just find it highly suspect that on this one day every one happened to drop the ball together completely out of character. It seems much more plausible, after entering a great many schools as a CASA advocate, that this was one of the lax schools.

 

[belimom]

I agree. The only thing I know about Muslims, burkas, no snitch, is from tv, media, Internet. And that makes my view very skewed. I appreciate all the wonderful posters on here that are taking the time and patience to educate me. NR's town/home/etc environment is so different from mine that I don't feel I can contribute in helping find the perpetrators. But, selfishly, I don't want to leave this thread because what I am learning is interesting, and, I think, decreasing my stereotypical view. Again, thank you.

Oh Yoda - you are contributing. (I actually heard that in a yoda voice when I typed it). Honestly, I know a lot of Muslims, not just from living in Egypt but also because of the area I live in. Yet, for all I've learned, I've realized I don't know much. Just like Christians or Jews or any other religious group, they are all different. There is no 'one size fits all'. I think we learned that when we delved into the 'what to Muslim men wear' discussion. The same for women: they may be fully covered, including their face, or they may not cover at all. Some teen girls in Egypt wore jeans, tank tops - and then covered their heads.

So please don't go. Bottom line is this case is about an abducted girl. We don't even know if her abduction has anything at all to do with her family's religion, or that of her abductors. It's a case of an abducted child. Please stay..

 

[Abby Normal Again]

As far as releasing the info that they have narrowed it down to one street and may be closing in on a suspect, I hope LE is one step ahead of that. Doesn't seem very prudent to let the public - and therefore the perp(s) - know that you're on your way/closing in on them. MOO

I always imagine that in reality they know the perp is 2 streets away and are quietly closing in on them there and hoping that the false information will make them sit tight while contentedly watching the news.

It never seems to go that way, but that's what I always imagine. :blushing:

 

[Abby Normal Again]

I always imagine that in reality they know the perp is 2 streets away and are quietly closing in on them there and hoping that the false information will make them sit tight while contentedly watching the news.

It never seems to go that way, but that's what I always imagine. :blushing:

More likely it's part of their strategic plan to spur them out of hiding or something. It does seem risky to me too, though, watching from the sidelines.

 

[tlcya]

Updated the map to show the specific block of interest......
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=204150161293193815171.0004d36c27fb975e3cf0a&msa=0&ll=39.954063,-75.241756&spn=0.011514,0.026157

There's a LOT of homes on these streets!

Thanks for keeping this all mapped out for us amberdawn, I cannot tell you how helpful it has been for me.

 

[tlcya]

ITA I just wanted to expand on this thought. I have heard LE say that N will never be the same. They are right, but being a victim isn't the end of the story. I have seen so many victims go on to save other potential victims (look up Alicia's Project). I have seen 5 year old babies bring down sleazy perps...in court. I know children who have witnessed horrific tragedy imposed by rivaling gang members....yet they go on and no one even knows what they've experience because they are so well adjusted. In my experience children are amazingly resilient and have a strong will to live. N appears to be a fighter and I have high hope of recovery for her. It can be very empowering for a victim to have a voice in putting the perp behind bars. I hope if this case is cracked open because of the info obtained from N they put the reward in a trust for her.

BBM that is so karmically appealing to me.

I agree, child victims are amazingly equipped to bounce back and go on, especially with the the proper help in doing so.

 

[JustBecause]

Does anyone else have an eerie feeling that at least one person involved is reading this?

 

[belimom]

Does anyone else have an eerie feeling that at least one person involved is reading this?

Not really before, but now it's creeping me out...

 

[jjenny]

Does anyone else have an eerie feeling that at least one person involved is reading this?

Not until you posted this.

 

[Savmom]

Does anyone else have an eerie feeling that at least one person involved is reading this?

:yes:

:shush: Are you reading my mind? lol

 

[amberdawn723]

Hopefully the perps aren't that smart! lease: