Found Deceased PA - Dakota James, 23, Pittsburgh, 25 Jan 2017 #1

[mjp1228]

Andre Grey murdered by gunshot then thrown in river
M. Karpinski went missing while fishing in New Kensington body found in river

M. Stutzman was a homeless man found on a river TRAIL, not in the river. According to PG article, they are awaiting toxicology reports to make ruling.

There is nothing on this list that points to a serial killer targeting young, gay men. I'm not understanding the point of your "research."

 

[CARIIS]

Andre Grey murdered by gunshot then thrown in river
M. Karpinski went missing while fishing in New Kensington body found in river

M. Stutzman was a homeless man found on a river TRAIL, not in the river. According to PG article, they are awaiting toxicology reports to make ruling.

There is nothing on this list that points to a serial killer targeting young, gay men. I'm not understanding the point of your "research."

I think we are doing homophobics that have discovered that you don't get arrested and thrown in jail for the operation.

Am I doing this sole serial killer nah. Am I doing multiple homophobic who have found out you can kill a f@g, and get away with it

 

[AFTM]

I think that no matter WHO goes missing the police need to investigate immediately so that valuable evidence is not lost. Pittsburgh police might need to be investigated for their attitude in investigating these crimes; just like recently crimes against black men are being investigated in our country....

Your family should not have to go out and canvas areas on their own. Collect evidence. How really could evidence found by a family member be submitted in a court of law without being challenged.

As I am not gay that would be something a LGBT spokesman in the community might address with local government...


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[fourcatsonepup]

Honestly, I don't know how any one can make any sense out of your posts. They are all jumbled nonsense.

This "serial killer" talk does not belong in Dakota's thread, IMO. Move it to a serial killer thread or start a new one until the POLICE let us know that some crazed river killer did this. This thread is out of control and none of it has to do with Dakota.

MOO

 

[AFTM]

Can't find it after message appeared all I can see is post about what his mother wrote on Facebook...

Sorry..

Maybe it will come on later.


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[pghzis]

Even if they find that his pants were zippered it doesn't disprove the idea that he may have accidentally fell in. He could have gone down there for reasons other than to go to the bathroom. Besides, If he did go down to pee he could have stumbled walking up the the ledge.

 

[AFTM]

I wonder if they will have a memorial for him here, since so many people were involved in searching for him, or will they just take him home to rest?


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[pghzis]

I think that no matter WHO goes missing the police need to investigate immediately so that valuable evidence is not lost. Pittsburgh police might need to be investigated for their attitude in investigating these crimes; just like recently crimes against black men are being investigated in our country....

Your family should not have to go out and canvas areas on their own. Collect evidence. How really could evidence found by a family member be submitted in a court of law without being challenged.

As I am not gay that would be something a LGBT spokesman in the community might address with local government...


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We don't know for certain what the police did and didn't do. From the press conference it appears that they investigated many angles. We are hearing differently from the family. I have a hard time believing that the police lied about what they did. It seems they could have done a better job communicating with the family, but the lack of communication could have been protocol.

 

[CARIIS]

Even if they find that his pants were zippered it doesn't disprove the idea that he may have accidentally fell in. He could have gone down there for reasons other than to go to the bathroom. Besides, If he did go down to pee he could have stumbled walking up the the ledge.

On some of these (icy slopes) i could be there. But this was a concrete stari,. Ie he want ot urinate and fell , and shock of everything there is a low-level stairway thing right there.

One cannot fall 45 feet away from a stairwell that has a concrete deal and not be able to just pull self up IMO

 

[CARIIS]

so it was 15 days later

Wednesday, Feb. 8
Channel 11 News confirms that investigators obtained a search warrant and reviewed at least one of James’ social media apps

if it were a female do you think it would take 13 days to see about possible sex stuff?

I shall be generous - let's go 7 hours before (female ) rape or murder comes into the narrative ??

 

[SomeoneElse333]

We don't know for certain what the police did and didn't do. From the press conference it appears that they investigated many angles. We are hearing differently from the family. I have a hard time believing that the police lied about what they did. It seems they could have done a better job communicating with the family, but the lack of communication could have been protocol.

Perfect. I couldn't agree more.

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[AFTM]

Can't find it after message appeared all I can see is post about what his mother wrote on Facebook...

Sorry..

Maybe it will come on later.


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You can view the video of Dakota's family's statement today on WTAE Chanel 4...

I guess I had the wrong Chanel at first for their press conference today. I thought it was WPXI.

They are going home...
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[SomeoneElse333]

You can view the video of Dakota's family's statement today on WTAE Chanel 4...

I guess I had the wrong Chanel at first for their press conference today. I thought it was WPXI.

They are going home...
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And there will be a memorial at a church on the north side. Date TBA.

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[SomeoneElse333]

When I load the thread now, I see a new picture on the landing page. Before, I think we used to see the Katz Plaza pic. Now it's one by Local's. Where did that picture come from?

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[pghzis]

On some of these (icy slopes) i could be there. But this was a concrete stari,. Ie he want ot urinate and fell , and shock of everything there is a low-level stairway thing right there.

One cannot fall 45 feet away from a stairwell that has a concrete deal and not be able to just pull self up IMO

Im not suggesting that he fell off of the stairs in to the water. I'm saying that he may have made his way down the stairs and to the rivers edge and fell while approaching.

 

[CARIIS]

Im not suggesting that he fell off of the stairs in to the water. I'm saying that he may have made his way down the stairs and to the rivers edge and fell while approaching.

if that is falling on concrete would have left contusion - easily seen upon finding the body - they have already done the standard no signs of foul play ??

 

[CARIIS]

When I load the thread now, I see a new picture on the landing page. Before, I think we used to see the Katz Plaza pic. Now it's one by Local's. Where did that picture come from?

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Is there alink would like to see other stuff than what they released.

What is the purpose of only releasing a still

IMO cause his gait is fine -- and could mess up what they knew they were gonna do if found

accidently death .

To do a murder requires a lot of manpower and money -- after all it is just a gay guy that was cut off.

If it was one of their daughters would be different moo

 

[pghzis]

if that is falling on concrete would have left contusion - easily seen upon finding the body - they have already done the standard no signs of foul play ??

I'm not exactly sure what you asking, your comments have been difficult to comprehend. Again, I'm not suggesting he fell on any concrete. I'm suggesting he may have stumble, tripped, or fell in to the water.

 

[CARIIS]

I just think we have to be honest. In Joey -- it was more than clear he was an active Grindr participant.

Do we really want to believe that straight cops want to go interview a gay dude with an enormous penis -- come on !!

IMO there is a total connection with LE not wanting to deal with gay sites makes em uncomfortable period

 

[CARIIS]

I'm not exactly sure what you asking, your comments have been difficult to comprehend. Again, I'm not suggesting he fell on any concrete. I'm suggesting he may have stumble, tripped, or fell in to the water.

Would not a stumble result in a bump or bruise somewhere ??

Where I get hung up on this theory , (as opposed to lets say a fall off a bridge) if it was an opps and in the river he is right near the concrete landing . Just pull yourself out.



If one fell off a bridge makes sense you might not be able to get out.

If it was a hill with ice, and you stumble and roll might be harder to get out and up?

Anyone one know how to get the water temp that night near the bridge