Found Deceased PA - Dakota James, 23, Pittsburgh, 25 Jan 2017 #2

[Karinna]

This angle is so convoluted.

Cops have them them in their from 1027 1031. ( long presser)

Mom says she has a receipt.

It was a week night. Probably slow. It is possible they walked in ordered a drink, bartender cut em off gave em the boot and they left.

Mom also stated they were there longer. Mom should just release the receipt to clear this up.

moo

Was DJ asked to leave because of intoxication or because it was closing time for the bar where he was at?

 

[Karinna]

If it was for intoxication then he must have been showing signs of that otherwise bar staff serving him wouldn't of known. Was his co worker friend also asked to leave? If it was closing time everyone would of been asked to leave and drinks would of no longer been served either.

 

[Karinna]

And who was the other young man recently that got refused entry back into a pub and ended up left outside on a cold night and also found drowned?
IMO something is defintely going on with these cases. Not sure what though?

 

[CARIIS]

I think sometimes parents have blinders on about their kids, even adult kids.

And not all people look falling-down drunk even when they are intoxicated. I used to know two people who were drunk most times when I talked to them, but I had no idea.

But there IS a difference between being "drunk" and unable to move your left foot then your right foot, to the point to you just wipe out and end up dead in a body of water.

In all these cases media forgets the notion, that alcohol wears off with the passage of minutes. If ,on video, Dk does not look like h he is swerving all over the sidewalk, the reality is things only get better - not worse with the progression of time.

Joey did not get bounced - actual video before departure shows a totally oriented person , walking actually more like late for something than stumbling out of the bar.

Joey BAL at tox screen was .015.

What more is known about the Pizza deal - what is at the last bar? Does the place sell Pizza or what?

Let mejust throw this out there as well. I know from personal experiance ha! If one has had , for whatever reason, a negative interaction with a bartender , they can be *****y (power / control sutff) and just toss you casue they wanna be a bit$$!!

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If you slept with them and it did not work out - you increase your odds of a bitx&& bartender might toss ya!!

Weeknight - do not know what type of bar the last one is, (small etc ) but if quiet and only one bartender on ....................................

Just throwing it in the mix!!

 

[CARIIS]

And who was the other young man recently that got refused entry back into a pub and ended up left outside on a cold night and also found drowned?
IMO something is defintely going on with these cases. Not sure what though?

Zachary Marr

 

[CARIIS]

Google images Images Bar

neighborhood bar, people probably know each other, much easier to a cruise a cute bartender somewhere in the past!!

 

[CARIIS]

google images

I wanted to get a feel for what kinda of bars they were hanging out at- that is sole reason for what follows ! Gives one an idea of the "evening". From whatI can ascertain - looks like they were in the mood for places where chatting is easy (not screaming at one another, probably can two chairs together - not all that cruisy - wanted to chat with one another, without being bothered by getting cruised/flirty etc

There are all kinds of gay bars in categories basically. These sound like sweeping sterotypes it is what it is. -

They do have strong implications - generally for the night you are wanting .
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it is just lets say descriptive!!

There can be correlations to drinking (!) free pour, measured shots, cost, get as blasted as poss, better not get plastered !!!!!!!!!!!

The look, dress, attitude of the staff is also influenced by cat!!

You have Twink bar (young),

neighborhood (typically older/working folks)

Stripper as it sounds

Troll - older guys looking for young guys-- the young guys typicaaly go in looking for old guys to buy them drinks while the old guys hope buyting them drinks will get the Twink to sleep with them!

Cruise bar (as it sounds hunting for sex)

Dive bar - trashy / sex/ dirty/dark

Piano - as it sounds /couples

Bear - older, chunky guys with lots of body hair

Huge dance ( dance, lights, loud music , cant really talk to one another, hard core drugs (extasy stuff like that) typically, lots of guys that love the gym - dance without shirts, often no body hair, basically want to compare their muscles with one another !!!! etc,)

Metro sexual - real groomed, very dressed, can be snooty and judgemental , think Vanity Fair after party at the Oscars deal !

MIxed twinks/drag queens/hetero/dance etc etc

Lesbian

Leather as sounds !

Show bars - heavy emphasis on drag shows - campy

If your in a different city you can call em and they will tell you what they are from some of the ones above

The gay guides have little icons inidcating what type they are.

Or if in a diff city you can ask a desk clerks "what is the closest bar.


Station Square is a large, over 50 acre entertainment and outdoor shopping complex located in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Known as Pittsburghs most popular .

 

[Blockdawg]

I went for a walk this afternoon where the cadaver dogs hit on the scent back in the beginning of February. This was my first time down there. I had trouble loading the photos here, but I took one of what looks like a smiley face and also the spot where the water search was where the dogs hit. The face was painted near that spot. Not sure how long that was there, but either someone is playing a sick joke or...?? Photos posted separate from this post.

I was out to pittsburgh on xmas day to see ravens game, and 2 members of are group used the Porta Johns for the construction crew of the Andy Warhol bridge project, there were 3 all together you couldn't miss them even in the dark , if I was walking home and had to go and was hesitant to go relieve myself in the alley I would of went to porta john, I don't know if there still in the same spot but just saying

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[CARIIS]

Google images

941

Also looks neighborhood y!

 

[Karinna]

Zachary Marr

Thankyou.

 

[Karinna]

What was the name of the venue DJ was at before he got asked to leave?

 

[AFTM]

CARllS are you from Pittsburgh
Because Station Square is on the South Shore.
And Images where Dakota was at is in a bad area downtown...
(Images Bar at 965 Liberty AvePittsburgh, PA)

Anywhere on Liberty is a questionable place to go... Liberty is a place full of drugs, hookers you name it... You couldn't pay me a hundred bucks to walk down Liberty by myself...and I'm talking about the day time not alone at night..There are a lot of nice places to go in Pittsburgh just what was he doing hanging around down there???

Now I go to Station Square with my family...but you won't catch me near Liberty Ave...
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[CARIIS]

What was the name of the venue DJ was at before he got asked to leave?

I can't find the real detailed one again. The Feb 8 one was confusing. It had the order wrong.

They went Station (first) 941 next, Images.

In a way at that point ( I could be confused there as one thing where she ordered Ybur an hour before p/u) but the timeline at that time read like they had it backwards that Images was the second and 941 was the final !

 

[bluesneakers]

He was near Market Square, right? I just saw this:

Removal Of Tables From Market Square Designed To Curb Crime And Loitering

“We had a lot of people hanging out in Market Square that were neither engaging the merchants or being good citizens of the city, so to speak,” said Zappala.

Zappala said last year they made 150 drug arrests, up from 91 the year before, and they’re not arresting everyone.

“I think we could make a lot more.”

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017...-square-designed-to-curb-crime-and-loitering/

It's weird - there's so much going on there and I've never felt scared because there are usually people everywhere, but yes, lots of questionable/illegal/risky activity taking place in the area as well.

 

[pghzis]

In all these cases media forgets the notion, that alcohol wears off with the passage of minutes. If ,on video, Dk does not look like h he is swerving all over the sidewalk, the reality is things only get better - not worse with the progression of time.

Incorrect. Alcohol can catch up to you later. If you have been drinking and then you do a few shots or finish a drink very quickly before you leave the bar you could be able to walk out of a bar fine and have it hit you 10-15 minutes later. I'm not saying that this was the case, just pointing out that you don't always 'get better, not worse'.

 

[CARIIS]

CARllS are you from Pittsburgh
Because Station Square is on the South Shore.
And Images where Dakota was at is in a bad area downtown...
(Images Bar at 965 Liberty AvePittsburgh, PA)

Anywhere on Liberty is a questionable place to go... Liberty is a place full of drugs, hookers you name it... You couldn't pay me a hundred bucks to walk down Liberty by myself...and I'm talking about the day time not alone at night..There are a lot of nice places to go in Pittsburgh just what was he doing hanging around down there???

Now I go to Station Square with my family...but you won't catch me near Liberty Ave...
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No, I am FL but decided I want to check out what they did that night.

But you made me feel better - I thought I was just being a baby, but the one pic we have my first reaction was there is no way I would walk in that big place alone. There was no-one around and it was a wide shot .

And now that you told me this (that alleyway) a poster showed, now makes that choice really scary.

I have to say reading your post I thought of drugs. Alleyway.

Where in terms of location in this mess - where was the video of the "shoe" caught.

Before /after the cell phone one/ before after the possible alley/ -- when I first read that I thought I wonder if it is a shoe store !!! God! HOe stupid is that to have security cam that only shows shoes of passerbys!!

I just thought it was cause we drive everywhere.

 

[pghzis]

CARllS are you from Pittsburgh
Because Station Square is on the South Shore.
And Images where Dakota was at is in a bad area downtown...
(Images Bar at 965 Liberty AvePittsburgh, PA)

Anywhere on Liberty is a questionable place to go... Liberty is a place full of drugs, hookers you name it... You couldn't pay me a hundred bucks to walk down Liberty by myself...and I'm talking about the day time not alone at night..There are a lot of nice places to go in Pittsburgh just what was he doing hanging around down there???

Now I go to Station Square with my family...but you won't catch me near Liberty Ave...
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I live and work downtown, Liberty is not as bad as you say, especially during the day.

 

[AFTM]

I can't find the real detailed one again. The Feb 8 one was confusing. It had the order wrong.

They went Station (first) 941 next, Images.

In a way at that point ( I could be confused there as one thing where she ordered Ybur an hour before p/u) but the timeline at that time read like they had it backwards that Images was the second and 941 was the final !

The 941 is on Liberty Ave too...bad area like I said drugs, crime, prostitution, you name it..

ANYTHING is possible on Liberty Ave. I would never ever set foot in a club down there not alone get drunk down there.

Truth be told now ....


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[bluesneakers]

I live and work downtown, Liberty is not as bad as you say, especially during the day.

Agree. There's a lot to do down there. It's no combat zone.

 

[AFTM]

Agree. There's a lot to do down there. It's no combat zone.

I am a manager at PNC yes it is...I tell my girls to stay away from there.


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