GUILTY PA - Holly Grim, 41, Wescosville, 22 Nov 2013 #1 *Arrest*

[zwiebel]

BBM

New poster.

http://avalleyandbeyond.weebly.com/missing-person.html

Next local search is scheduled for Saturday.

They also have contacted psychics, and it's getting a bit chaotic ... which is moo.

On the new Search for Holly group page, they have recommended WS. Hopefully some will join us here!

If a loved one of mine was missing, I'd rather have a SAR professional who HAS found the location of many missing people on my side, than a person who's had visions of where missing people MAY be, if someone else can search for them.

This can lead to heartbreak. I hope they are careful.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...anda-Berrys-mother-missing-daughter-dead.html

 

[Cherry]

I'm pretty sad to hear they are entertaining so called hacks oh my. That is just not good. Visions my eye. Lol, I agree.....I'd rather they call in Tim miller.

 

[Curious Me]

:bump: I've been silently following this case and reading everybody's posts. Bumping this to the first page because I find Holly's disappearance disturbing. Hope they can find her soon.

 

[geevee]

The more I see of this woman, the more I like her. I especially like her eyes. They are kind. The media isn't covering her story much but she has many fans in her fb group, more than 1000. Holly, I hope you are alright, wherever you are!

She always seems to be smiling, huh? I sure hope she's found okay too, seems like a real good egg.

 

[Eileen730]

What are the most common causes of disappearances of adult women?

LOL don't get me started !:scared:

 

[zwiebel]

I'm seeing snow around in pictures of Pennsylvania now. Is that correct? Anyone aware of the conditions in Holly's area?

 

[zwiebel]

This seems like an interesting site, though it has maps so I can't understand it of course.

http://ucr.psp.state.pa.us/UCR/Reporting/RUAware/RUAwareCountyUI.asp

 

[Curious Me]

I'm pretty sad to hear they are entertaining so called hacks oh my. That is just not good. Visions my eye. Lol, I agree.....I'd rather they call in Tim miller.

It's a gift, but I don't think it should be used to bilk people out of money. I also have concerns with the attention seekers delaying the investigation with wrong visions.

However, I do remember there was one case where a woman (Pam Ragland) and her children found a buried body and it sounded very legitimate. Here's that story.



http://www.usaukonline.com/latest-n...-found-buried-in-a-shallow-grave-in-yard.html

A psychic has revealed that she was the one to help police discover the body of the autistic 11-year-old boy in a shallow grave near his home after he had been missing for three days.

The woman's vision reportedly led her to the area about 100 feet from Terry Dewayne Smith Jr.'s mother's home in Menifee, California where they found the boy's body buried.

Riverside County Sheriff's Detective John Powers confirmed to a local radio station that Ms Ragland did play a pivotal role in helping them find the boy's body.

Mr Powers says Ragland called a tip line about her vision, and was invited to join the search.

He says Ragland and her children came to the house without knowing it was the boy's, walked on to the property and right to the partially buried body.

Mr Powers says he searched the area previously himself without seeing it.



Woman with 'visions' says she helped find missing Menifee boy
July 11, 2013
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jul/11/local/la-me-ln-menifee-vision-20130711

 

[Cherry]

100 ft from the mothers home does not a psychic make...

 

[Treelights]

I'm seeing snow around in pictures of Pennsylvania now. Is that correct? Anyone aware of the conditions in Holly's area?

http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/wescosville-pa/18106/weather-forecast/2128805
Right now 21 degrees, low tonight 13 degrees.
Friday 30 degrees high,
On Saturday 3 to 6 inches of snow Saturday morning through late Saturday night.

 

[Curious Me]

100 ft from the mothers home does not a psychic make...

I was impressed once I looked at the pics and read the story. After all, LE missed finding the shallow grave, so she did help.

eace: I understand, it just takes more to impress you. :smile:

 

[zwiebel]

We have been lucky enough to have a hugely experienced search and rescue professional on this thread, repeating again and again that good help is available for Holly, and where it can be found. These are not people who spend a lot of their time making arrests (LE) or having visions and selling their services (psychics) .

All they spend their time on is bring the missing home. If you wouldn't enter a bicycle into a stock car race, you shouldn't think of asking anyone but a Search and Rescue professional to search for - and find - a missing loved one, in my opinion.

 

[zwiebel]

:floorlaugh:

I was impressed once I looked at the pics and read the story. After all, LE missed finding the shallow grave, so she did help.

eace: I understand, it just takes more to impress you. :smile:

An experienced SAR team and their dogs would have done the same. Only much, much quicker.

 

[zwiebel]

I've got to say I'm biased here, SAR dogs brought my aunt home. Went straight to the spot where she was buried and found her.

That was after seven years, and after her murderer had laughed at the police officer standing right on top of her burial place, demanding to know where she was, and totally unaware she was under his feet.

If I'm ever lost, I want SAR dogs and their trainers out, trying to bring me home.

 

[Ravynne]

This seems like an interesting site, though it has maps so I can't understand it of course.

http://ucr.psp.state.pa.us/UCR/Reporting/RUAware/RUAwareCountyUI.asp

I clicked on Lehigh county. Which it's info should come up in link below.

http://ucr.psp.state.pa.us/ibi_apps/WFServlet?IBIF_ex=RUREP01&MAPAREA=39

 

[Curious Me]

We have been lucky enough to have a hugely experienced search and rescue professional on this thread, repeating again and again that good help is available for Holly, and where it can be found. These are not people who spend a lot of their time making arrests (LE) or having visions and selling their services (psychics) .

All they spend their time on is bring the missing home. If you wouldn't enter a bicycle into a stock car race, you shouldn't think of asking anyone but a Search and Rescue professional to search for - and find - a missing loved one, in my opinion.

I agree.

 

[Curious Me]

I've got to say I'm biased here, SAR dogs brought my aunt home. Went straight to the spot where she was buried and found her.

That was after seven years, and after her murderer had laughed at the police officer standing right on top of her burial place, demanding to know where she was, and totally unaware she was under his feet.

If I'm ever lost, I want SAR dogs and their trainers out, trying to bring me home.

What further proof would you need. Seven years, wow, just wow. I'm sorry you lost your aunt in that way.

 

[zwiebel]

I clicked on Lehigh county. Which it's info should come up in link below.

http://ucr.psp.state.pa.us/ibi_apps/WFServlet?IBIF_ex=RUREP01&MAPAREA=39

Thank you.

 

[zwiebel]

What further proof would you need. Seven years, wow, just wow. I'm sorry you lost your aunt in that way.

Her horrible death was terrible. The fact she wasn't found for so long because no searches were carried out made it much, much worse. I wish I could go back in time, knowing what I know now. As I can't, I'll try and turn it to some good for other missing people.

 

[Ravynne]

Thank you.

No problem! Glad to help.