Found Deceased PA - Linda Stoltzfoos, 18, Bird-in-Hand, Lancaster County, 21 June 2020 *arrest* #2

[MyJoey]

Linda was tall but she’s thin. That vehicle had nothing to do with this case. I do believe she was moved though.

 

[MyJoey]

Totally appears he was going to the Gap area, maybe his work place who knows. The cell pings and witnesses tell a story we just need to figure that out.

 

[GizzardMan]

Linda was tall but she’s thin. That vehicle had nothing to do with this case. I do believe she was moved though.

Sounds like 2007 rio has "split-folding rear seatbacks" so it might accomadate a long object ?

 

[MyJoey]

Thank you, very kind of you. I guess that’s why I’m drawn to this case, it’s close where I live and my heart is just broken for the family. Not that the circumstances were anything alike with my son but, that being missing and not knowing is unsettling to say the least.

 

[MyJoey]

Rigor would have passed by the 23rd and I hate to say it but we have heard of people being found in suitcases.

 

[MissMalowe]

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[JDough]

And just to add. If they obtain a warrant to confiscate your phone, they need a separate warrant to search the contents.

If someone willingly gives LE their phone, or the pictures saved on it, is a warrant still needed? I have followed cases where an individual forwarded photos on their phone or home surveillance recordings to LE (e-mail tip line, I believe)? I don't believe I've ever thought about the need for a warrant in this ^ type of scenario.

 

[Rocky1]

If someone willingly gives LE their phone, or the pictures saved on it, is a warrant still needed? I have followed cases where an individual forwarded photos on their phone or home surveillance recordings to LE (e-mail tip line, I believe)? I don't believe I've ever thought about the need for a warrant in this ^ type of scenario.

No. You can give them your phone, just like you can let LE enter and search your home without a warrant.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

If JS was released from prison in Feb 2019....could there be more victims?? Scary thought!! Anymore missing girls in the area?

Just jumping off your post...

I wonder if LE has talked to local prostitutes...

perhaps JS was visiting prostitutes (since his release from prison)....
And perhaps he has a history of elevated violence during this time...

This may somewhat explain his escalation from armed robbery to this heinous crime towards LS?

additionally... Perhaps prostitutes are more hesitant to call LE when confronted with violent behaviors from men
As females in other walks of life?
Therefore there has been little to no complaints recorded?

Just some thoughts...

 

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[sds71]

Could anybody point me in the direction of the affidavit? Others have referenced it, but I can’t seem to find it. Thanks!

Justo Smoker Charges

 

[Hannah3105]

Justo Smoker Charges

Thank you!

 

[Jmoose]

If someone willingly gives LE their phone, or the pictures saved on it, is a warrant still needed? I have followed cases where an individual forwarded photos on their phone or home surveillance recordings to LE (e-mail tip line, I believe)? I don't believe I've ever thought about the need for a warrant in this ^ type of scenario.

Fotis Dulos willingly handed the police his phone when they requested it, but they couldn’t access the phone for its data until they got a warrant. The only thing they did prior to getting the warrant was to put it in “airplane mode” so data couldn’t be removed via another device. PA law might different than that of CT, but I don’t think so in this particular regard.

 

[Song in My Heart]

May God reveal yet another miracle this day.
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[Spartygirl]

Smoker was said to have two girlfriends. As per another site, he quit seeing one of them around Fathers Day and would only send an occasional text. She suspected he was seeing someone else and had planned to break up with him.

BBM
Just bouncing off the 2* girlfriends.
Fathers Day was when Smoker abducted Linda.
Perhaps ex girlfriend only THINKS he had another girlfriend because, unknown to her, he was busy taking Linda, Hiding her, burying clothes, etc.
JMO

 

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[Spartygirl]

Maybe JS quickly dumped the body after abduction then later moved it to a better spot using the Pacifica. A larger vehicle like a Pacifica might be needed to move a 5'10'' body. Then he torches it. Just my opinion.

I am wondering the same thing, which is why the other vehicle had a "convenient " car fire.

 

[Rocky1]

I am wondering the same thing, which is why the other vehicle had a "convenient " car fire.

That could very well be, but why torch one car but not the one that many would have, and did see Linda in? Why destroy evidence in only one car?
I would think 5'10" body would fit just fine in any car with the front seat reclined, but I may be wrong.

 

[Jrsnader]

That could very well be, but why torch one car but not the one that many would have, and did see Linda in? Why destroy evidence in only one car?
I would think 5'10" body would fit just fine in any car with the front seat reclined, but I may be wrong.

I agree the fire is too convenient. If someone was trying to hide something they wouldn’t want to attract LE to their location. Also why not burn the Rio.