PA PA - Monroe Twp, 'Penny Doe', WhtFem 20-40, 246UFPA, near RR trestle, Rt leg broken, Jul'90

[airplanelamp]

What about Maria Montano?

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/14909/0/

I see lots of similarities there. I think its worth submitting it.

I wonder what the circumstances of Maria's disappearance were?

 

[CarlK90245]

I see lots of similarities there. I think its worth submitting it.

I wonder what the circumstances of Maria's disappearance were?

The narrative of the circumstances is on her Charley page.

Maria Guadalupe Montano

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/montano_maria.html

 

[carbuff]

Circumstances make it a bit unlikely but certainly not impossible. Penny Doe was found straight down I-80 from Aurora IL: https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=...,+Clarion+County,+Pennsylvania&mra=ls&t=m&z=7

I wouldn't want to drive 8 hours down an interstate highway with a body in back, but we know enough murderers who have. And maybe he didn't kill her until he got there.

News article about the case: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2008-07-28/news/0807270178_1_pleads-inmate-guilty

 

[Arianne]

I still haven't heard if Penny Doe is a rule out for Frances Morales... waiting

 

[Houston Mom]

Frances on NamUs has no dentals or DNA, but a 5 star profile. HMMMM..... DNA is done on Penny. Here is a side by side. Looks good to me.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/12750/11/

 

[carbuff]

New name on ruleouts: Anne Manchester

Tracy Kroh 1972 Pennsylvania
Anne Manchester 1954 Delaware
Dawn Mozino 1965 Pennsylvania
Tamara Porrin 1971 Pennsylvania
Beverly Potts 1941 Ohio
Michelle Richardson Unknown Texas
Beverly Sharpman 1930 Pennsylvania
Barbara Shumac 1953 Pennsylvania

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/6580

 

[Lili]

New article about Penny Doe, new picture of a reconstructed face.

http://exploreclarion.com/2014/10/19/penny-doe-cold-case-makes-no-cents/#more-141536

 

[Talisman]

Lili,

:tyou:

Talisman

 

[shadowdancer]

Was Frances Morales ever submitted? She looks very good to me! In fact, if she isn't Penny I'll eat my hat.

She does have dentals in Namus now, so should be an easy comparison.

 

[carbuff]

Arianne said she submitted Frances, but I don't see her name on the ruleouts list.

Here's a side by side of Frances with the new recon of Penny.

 

[Houston Mom]

It is amazing how close CarlK90245's Penny looks like the reconstruction!

 

[Houston Mom]

Goodness Marylyn Roberts sure looks like the reconstruction. Missing March '88 5'4 and 110. At 34 is she not a candidate? Dentals are available but not entered.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7821/16/

 

[CarlK90245]

View attachment 61946It is amazing how close CarlK90245's Penny looks like the reconstruction!

I figured that is a good occasion to revise my reconstruction of Penny Doe to give her a more lifelike appearance:

(As with all of my skeletal reconstructions, I am including the caveat that this facial reconstruction is based on a skull and a general description of her hair length and color. Details such as her overall look,and the shape of her eyes, lips, etc. are not intended to be exact depictions)

 

[Arianne]

I did but still have not heard a word.

 

[Arianne]

She looks so alive it is eerie!

 

[Houston Mom]

Posted on NamUs are these dentals. I'm noticing the double tooth would not be visible in the smile. Also is there a small gap on the lower LEFT?

 

[traacker13]

Posted on NamUs are these dentals. I'm noticing the double tooth would not be visible in the smile. Also is there a small gap on the lower LEFT?

I am surely no expert when it comes to teeth but they look like they could be shovel shaped. Does anyone else see that too? Possible Native American ancestry?

 

[traacker13]

I have to also wonder about the significance of the pennies jn the pockets. The more I think about the less I believe it was coincidental. Perhaps it has religious significance.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7436/90/

What about her? She went missing a few years before but could have been anywhere for that time?

 

[Richrd]

Clarion Cnty, Monroe Twp, Now 20-40, 4'10" to 5'6", 105 - 120+ Lbs., 14" Dark Brown Hair

Doe Network 246UFPA :: NamUs UP# 6580 :: NCIC # U 438952997 :: NCMEC 1107383

Reidsburg, Monroe Township, Clarion County, is in North-Western, PA.

Does this Map Look Close?
http://www.bing.com/maps/#Y3A9cXZyc...lMjBDbGFyaW9uJTJDJTIwUGVubnN5bHZhbmlhJTJDJTIw :

Zoom -- Bird's Eye View -- Rotate All 4 Directions

[ Old Town Road is part of Monroe Township Road 526. ]

Lat - Lon: N 41.15121 :: W -079.40079 also N 41 09.0726 :: W -079 24.0474

NamUs:
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/full_report/6580
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/6580

All 8 Rule-Outs:

Tracy Kroh :: 1972 :: Pennsylvania

Anne Manchester :: 1954 :: Delaware
Dawn Mozino :: 1965 :: Pennsylvania

Tamara Porrin :: 1971 :: Pennsylvania
Beverly Potts :: 1941 :: Ohio

Michelle Richardson :: Unknown :: Texas

Beverly Sharpman :: 1930 :: Pennsylvania
Barbara Shumac :: 1953 :: Pennsylvania

NCMEC: http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMU/1107383

Penny's Click-To-Enlarge Teeth Photos via Houston Mom:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...mp-Floral-Vest-Jul-90&p=11450677#post11450677

Tooth Numbering via Simple Steps Dental:

http://www.simplestepsdental.com/i/D/DNTKnowUnivNumSys.gif

In My Opinion,

Referencing Doe Network Dental Comments:

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/246ufpa.html:

Maxillary / Upper:

Second Premolar 4 appears to be Missing with a Healed Socket
First Premolar 5 appears to be Short and Stubby
Primary Lateral Incisor G appears to be Still Present behind Incisors 9 and 10

Mandibular / Lower:

Central Incisor 24 appears to be Missing
Third Molar 32 appears to be Partially Erupted

Dental Sleuths: Kindly Post Your Opinions

Thanks In Advance