PA - Parents charged w/abusing five adopted children; Graphic punishments; Annville; 13 Jan 2021

I should add that over 80% of people who sign up to be foster parents, and get a child or children, never do it a second time. Far too many of them just don't have a clue what they are getting into, and the rewards weren't worth the drawbacks.

I have also heard of people who, after realizing that foster parenting was way above their pay grade, hosted exchange students instead. (Having had friends who did it, that presents its own set of challenges.)
 
I'm so sick of this!. WTAF is wrong with people?. WHY does this keep on happening?. I am crying here reading what this poor baby has gone through. I just can't with these people.
We are all reading this and each and every one of us can name a different child and case that this reminds us of,my mind immediately went to little Thomas Valva, it shouldn't be so easy to recall another child that suffered in this same way. Just no:(
Totally agree. I will never understand why people adopt children only to abuse them. It makes no sense.
 
I should add that over 80% of people who sign up to be foster parents, and get a child or children, never do it a second time. Far too many of them just don't have a clue what they are getting into, and the rewards weren't worth the drawbacks.

I have also heard of people who, after realizing that foster parenting was way above their pay grade, hosted exchange students instead. (Having had friends who did it, that presents its own set of challenges.)
Wait, what? You get money for hosting exchange students? For what possible reason? I really thought it was simply a “trade”, my kid goes to your house and your kid comes to my house, isn’t that what “exchange” is supposed to mean?

People just host kids for the money? A teenager? That’s crazy, no money would ever be enough for me to be responsible for a teenager that was not mine lol. It’s so much responsibility.
 
Wait, what? You get money for hosting exchange students? For what possible reason? I really thought it was simply a “trade”, my kid goes to your house and your kid comes to my house, isn’t that what “exchange” is supposed to mean?

People just host kids for the money? A teenager? That’s crazy, no money would ever be enough for me to be responsible for a teenager that was not mine lol. It’s so much responsibility.

It's not a lot of money. It helps pay for food, outings, etc. while the kid is with you.
 
I hope someone will love and care for these children. They will need so much help and therapy. Poor kids.
Yup.
I work with a kid who was in a similar situation as a small child. Them and their siblings were locked up without food and water or bathroom access. They are one super messed up kid. Their poor adoptive parents had no idea what they were signing up for.

The kids in this situation are going to be struggling in so many areas for possibly their whole lives. Trust and attachment issues, food addiction, problems with authority, emotional development etc etc LD might even now struggle with bathroom stuff.

jmo
 
Wait, what? You get money for hosting exchange students? For what possible reason? I really thought it was simply a “trade”, my kid goes to your house and your kid comes to my house, isn’t that what “exchange” is supposed to mean?

People just host kids for the money? A teenager? That’s crazy, no money would ever be enough for me to be responsible for a teenager that was not mine lol. It’s so much responsibility.

you do not have to be a parent to host exchange students.
 
Wait, what? You get money for hosting exchange students? For what possible reason? I really thought it was simply a “trade”, my kid goes to your house and your kid comes to my house, isn’t that what “exchange” is supposed to mean?

People just host kids for the money? A teenager? That’s crazy, no money would ever be enough for me to be responsible for a teenager that was not mine lol. It’s so much responsibility.

My friends who did it, did not do it for the money. They did it because they enjoyed it, and got as much out of the experiences as the kids did. For that matter, my niece has done two short-term exchange student experiences (one to Merida, Mexico and the other to Indonesia) and loved every minute of it.

They chose only to host female students, but they aren't doing it right now because of non-COVID related health issues. The last girl they hosted ended up being kicked out of the program for misbehavior; among other things, she left the area without telling anybody, not a good idea if you're here on a visa from IIRC Kazakhstan!
 
Yup.
I work with a kid who was in a similar situation as a small child. Them and their siblings were locked up without food and water or bathroom access. They are one super messed up kid. Their poor adoptive parents had no idea what they were signing up for.

The kids in this situation are going to be struggling in so many areas for possibly their whole lives. Trust and attachment issues, food addiction, problems with authority, emotional development etc etc LD might even now struggle with bathroom stuff.

jmo

One of my Facebook friends, a HS classmate, adopted an older brother and sister that they fostered after finding out they could not have children of their own. The kids are in their 20s now and doing quite well, but the teen years were not fun experiences for anybody. I do know that the girl lived on the streets for a while, because she didn't want to follow Mom & Dad's rules, and the son had to spend some time at a long-term residential treatment facility because of his own issues.
 
One of my Facebook friends, a HS classmate, adopted an older brother and sister that they fostered after finding out they could not have children of their own. The kids are in their 20s now and doing quite well, but the teen years were not fun experiences for anybody. I do know that the girl lived on the streets for a while, because she didn't want to follow Mom & Dad's rules, and the son had to spend some time at a long-term residential treatment facility because of his own issues.
That’s really good to hear! Honestly I am really hoping this kid gets into long term residential for a while cuz tbh at this point, with what I know from being a true crime lady....they’ve got literally all the makings of a serial killer. Might sound harsh but it’s scary, man. The other kids, they’re sweet though.
but that’s what this kind of trauma can do. It can make you the kindest sweetest human or it can make monsters. Either way, it messes you up.
I’m so glad these 5 kids got out when they did

jmo
 
…prosecutors filed 20 felony charges against Stephanie and Robert Duncan of North Annville Township, Lebanon County. The couple is accused of physically punishing their five adopted children. Police say they deprived the kids of food, water, heat, and bathroom privileges. Thankfully, law enforcement say they survived the torture.

"You have a mom and dad who are supposed to give unconditional love and support and warmth, and instead, they've been the exact opposite. They were the daily tormenters, and every one of those kids had to watch their siblings treated in that fashion," said Pier Hess Graf, the Lebanon County District Attorney.

"My wife called, and my neighbor called on them," said Jerry Getz, who lives next door to the Duncan's home.

Many people asked: How come the children weren't removed from the home? Child advocates say it's not that simple.

It is a very complex system," said Jon Rubin, deputy secretary for the PA Office of Children, Youth, and Families. "Our children youth case workers do not have authority to remove a child from a home or keep a child from a home. That's kidnapping."

When families refuse access to their homes, Rubin says the only real resource workers have is to file a court order. Though, that is typically a last resort. Rubin says caseworkers will not file petitions of the court to question a child outside of the home as that can be traumatic for the child.

"Can families hide what they're doing?" asked Grace.

"Can a family fool us? It can happen," said Rubin. "Can they clean up before we come? Can we go out unannounced? Yes. Can we maintain a longer period of connection with the family? We can try do that. Ultimately, we only have limited authority."

"What kind of abuse or neglect would rise to the level of removal?" asked Grace.

"We do have tools we try to measure low-risk, moderate-risk, really we're looking for imminent danger to a child," explained Rubin.

Rubin says that could be severe sexual, physical, or mental abuse. There are 15 factors caseworkers look for when determining the risk of a child. The factors range from vulnerability of the child to past family violence.

According to PA's risk assessment model, investigative workers must acknowledge that the 'tools' are not foolproof. They are not intended to serve as a substitute for the workers' own judgment and opinion. A "high risk" situation may involve just one of the factors or a varying combination of all 15 factors. The presence of many high risk factors for an indicated report may require clear documentation of why emergency protective actions were not taken.

"Do people slip through the cracks?" Grace asked Erin Moyer, administrator for Lebanon County CYS.

In Pennsylvania, the Child Protective Services Law sets the parameters for child abuse investigations. It also defines which children may need general protective services or GPS or child protective services or CPS.

According to the PA Child Welfare Resource Center, a majority of abuse and neglect reports involve non-serious injury or neglect, such as inadequate living conditions, truancy, inappropriate discipline, hygiene issues or more. These are examples of GPS cases. GPS assessments are conducted to identify the needs of families that may be impacting child safety and well-being. They will also help to identify resources that can help the family. Social work strategies are employed to engage families in determining their strengths and needs. There is no formal determination of whether certain incidents of child maltreatment occurred or the identification of perpetrators. Law enforcement are not involved in most GPS cases either.

With CPS cases, there is a heightened response. CPS investigations are similar in how police approach their investigations. They involve more urgent timeframes for response than GPS reports, are focused on determining if incidents of abuse have occurred, may result in perpetrators being identified and registered in the state’s ChildLine central registry, require specific notifications regarding the investigation and right to counsel, and may involve joint investigations with law enforcement and medical professionals.

You can view a chart on the differences between CPS and GPS here.

You can view the Child Protective Services Law here.'

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‘Horrific’ abuse against 5 children leads to guilty plea from Pa. adoptive mother

“Appearing on video from prison before Lebanon County Judge Bradford H. Charles, Duncan entered an open plea, meaning there is no plea agreement as to the duration of her sentence.

She faces a maximum sentence of 288 years behind bars and up to $65,000 in fines for the 30 charges filed against her, which include aggravated assault, simple assault, conspiracy, strangulation, endangering the welfare of children and tampering with evidence.

Her sentence will be handed down at a hearing Dec. 22.

Her husband, Robert Duncan, 44, was sentenced last week to six to 30 years in state prison, Graf said.

Graf said through the district attorney’s investigation leading up to the pleas, she has been in contact with the five children. They are all handling their trauma in different ways, but the 11-year-old in particular is struggling, and is suffering from a great deal of psychological issues, she said.

But since the children were so abused, and every moment of their lives was regimented -- down to when they could sleep and when and how much they could eat and drink -- Graf said it was important to give them some say in the pleas. It’s about victim empowerment, she said, and trying to teach the children that there are adults who care for them and respect them, and to show the children they now have some control over their lives and their futures.

The five children agreed that Robert Duncan failed to protect them and did nothing to stop the abuse, though he did take a bigger role in it when the pandemic started and he was at home more often.”
 
The input from the sweet children show that they have co.passion, against all odds. But that is yet another real burden to place on them. They are not equipped to feel responsible for putting the Dad they "love" away forever. But it's wrong, on all levels. He never needs to be released. Ever. I have a cabinet I've been meaning to clean and have put off for more than 6 years. That is not neeeeeeearly long enough. 6,000 years isn't long enough for these monsters. He gets no passes. He is as bad as her. 100%. He knew. He participated. He enabled. Another way these kids were done wrong. I've had it with this kind of bs.
PROTECT THE KIDS AT ALL COSTS!!!!!!
 
The children told investigators the 11-year-old was given very little food, mostly peanut butter, oatmeal and carrots. He was given less than a bottle of water per day and sometimes had to drink the cat’s water. He was even punished once for “stealing” water from the sink, the children recalled.

The children say he was forced to eat hot peppers as a punishment, and when he vomited, he was forced to eat that, as well.

This sounds like something that happened in the German concentration camps in in WWII. I can hardly believe the cruelty I'm reading about here. Those poor, poor little boys. It's beyond heartbreaking.
 
Prosecutors said she was the primary abuser, denying the children basic nourishment and subjecting them to brutal and graphic punishment. Her husband, who did nothing to intervene, pleaded guilty and was sentenced to between 6 and 30 years.

Her charges include aggravated assault, endangering the welfare of a child and tampering with or fabricating physical evidence.

Judge Charles chastised RD for his apology to the court prior to sentencing. "The children will never recover psychologically. There are times when an apology is trite, and this is one of those times. It takes a sociopathic sadist to torture children. It takes someone who has no regard for humanity to sit back and let it happen."

LD (11 y.o.) nearly died several times at the hospital and had "serious bodily injury" from physical abuse, as well as exposure to cold, significant fluid restriction and possible ingestion of a sodium-containing liquid such as diluted bleach.

Each child provided statements illustrating the disturbing experience of watching the “parents” physically attack his or her siblings”.

Their schedules were regimented and their food was rationed. Alarms were placed on their doors and security cameras were placed in their bedrooms and a playroom.

The abuse included beatings, strangulation and deprivation of food, water, heat and bathroom privileges.

Pennsylvania woman pleads guilty to 'horrific' abuse of 5 adopted children
 

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