PA PA - Perry Co, Rte 322, WhtFem 15-38, 11UFPA, UP5166. turquoise jewelry, clothes, Jun'79

[HmmMysterious]

After over a year, the NamUs file of this Jane Doe has been modified. The number of exclusions remain the same - 68, but it says 69 because a missing person was added twice.

 

[LucyOso]

Lisa is on my list as well, along with many others. I think your theory is very plausible given her age regarding the marriage. It's so frustrating when there is so little information.

But I do think this is a very good one for comparison if there is enough information to include or exclude her. Might be worth someone attempting to get in touch with her daughter if possible.

Laurie Allison Smith The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) is high on my list as well.

I think it's incredibly likely she is not from the immediate area. Unless there is a specific reason she was not reported as a missing person (perhaps an immigrant, trafficked from another country, or an adult "runaway" ie: left an abusive relationship, etc.)

The jewelry is just so specific, I can't let it go. It had to belong to someone who is older or relatively well-off..

I agree about Laurie. The jewelry is definitely collected over time and is unique/good quality. Also, in one of her pictures there is a ring. Very similar shape to the jewelry with the UID profile. Pictures are blurry, but...

 

[John/Jane Doe]

I agree about Laurie. The jewelry is definitely collected over time and is unique/good quality. Also, in one of her pictures there is a ring. Very similar shape to the jewelry with the UID profile. Pictures are blurry, but...

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@SimsGuy67 could you make a comparison table for Laurie Allison Smith and Perry County Jane Doe? I would greatly appreciate it.

 

[LucyOso]

@SimsGuy67 could you make a comparison table for Laurie Allison Smith and Perry County Jane Doe? I would greatly appreciate it.

Yes, please @SimsGuy67. Definitely not me, I could barely get images uploaded LOL

 

[SimsGuy67]

@SimsGuy67 could you make a comparison table for Laurie Allison Smith and Perry County Jane Doe? I would greatly appreciate it.

Yes, please @SimsGuy67. Definitely not me, I could barely get images uploaded LOL

One table!

	Laurie Allison Smith MP12469	Perry County Jane Doe UP5166
Sex	Female	Female
Race	White/Caucasian	White/Caucasian
Age	22	15 - 38
DLC/DOD	February 8, 1977	1978 - 1979
Height	5'7	5'2 - 5'9 (DN)
Weight	115 pounds	105 - 170 pounds
Hair Color	Brown	Light blonde to brown
Eye Color	Brown	Unknown
Distinctive Features	Pierced ears, Pegasus tattoo on unknown shoulder	Healed fracture to midshaft of ninth rib.
Circumstances	Last seen in Tucson, AZ.	Found in Watts Township, PA.
Distance	Tucson - Watts Township	2,250 miles

I find the fact that Laurie is wearing a similar ring to Jane Doe quite interesting.

 

[Bit of hope]

After over a year, the NamUs file of this Jane Doe has been modified. The number of exclusions remain the same - 68, but it says 69 because a missing person was added twice.

Any idea what has been modified? Or is there just another contact-person?

 

[HmmMysterious]

Any idea what has been modified? Or is there just another contact-person?

Nope, I have no idea. I'll look at the file again

Edit: Yeah I think the contacts might have changed. The regional program specialist for Jane Doe is still Katharine Pope though.

 

[Caring1]

Bringing info over from MP Laurie Smith’s thread, post #92:

AZ - AZ - Laurie 'Allison' Smith, 22, Tucson, 8 Feb 1977

Hi Guys: I am new but I just want your opinion here. I found this pic on the web from Serial Killer Alcala and I'm thinking this looks a lot like Laurie....I could be wrong.

www.websleuths.com

 

[LucyOso]

Bringing info over from MP Laurie Smith’s thread, post #92:

AZ - AZ - Laurie 'Allison' Smith, 22, Tucson, 8 Feb 1977

Hi Guys: I am new but I just want your opinion here. I found this pic on the web from Serial Killer Alcala and I'm thinking this looks a lot like Laurie....I could be wrong.

www.websleuths.com

Caring noted the potential connection in the other thread a while back! I didn't see that until after we were posting. Thanks for submitting her!

 

[HmmMysterious]

Laurie Smith has been ruled out as Perry County Jane Doe; Laurie appears on the decedent's exclusion list.

 

[Caring1]

Laurie Smith has been ruled out as Perry County Jane Doe; Laurie appears on the decedent's exclusion list.

Wow, that was fast. Thank you for letting us know.

Corresponding directly with the ME is much quicker than submitting through NamUs.

 

[arisam]

Since isotope analysis suggested she's from the great lakes region, has anyone checked her information against people missing from Ontario? I know it might be a wild guess given she moved quite freely through the US, but I'm told the 70s were a different time (I wouldn't know - I wasn't there.)

 

[SimsGuy67]

Since isotope analysis suggested she's from the great lakes region, has anyone checked her information against people missing from Ontario? I know it might be a wild guess given she moved quite freely through the US, but I'm told the 70s were a different time (I wouldn't know - I wasn't there.)

Keeping this in mind, I found Pamela Harvey Rousseau. Sorry if she's already been suggested/excluded. Little is known about Pamela but what we do know lines up with Jane Doe. I find it weird that Pamela just left her son with a neighbor. I wonder if she did intend on coming home. Nothing in her disappearance really indicates foul play to me. The only thing that does is that she went missing decades ago. Maybe she met the wrong person along the way?

	Pamela Harvey Rousseau 2041DFON	Perry County Jane Doe 11UFPA
Sex	Female	Female
Race	White/Caucasian	White/Caucasian
Age	23	15 - 38
Height	5'6	5'2 - 5'9
Weight	125 pounds	105 - 170 pounds
DLC/DOD	December 1978	June 1978 - Approximately April 1979 (Months to a year prior)
Hair Color	Reddish blonde	Light brown to blonde
Eye Color	Brown	Unknown
Distinctive Features	Unknown/None	Healed fracture to midshaft of ninth rib.
Circumstances	Last seen sometime in December 1978 after leaving her son with a neighbor.	Found in Watts Township, Pennsylvania. Had ties to the Great Lakes region.
Distance	Greater Sudbury - Watts Township	596 miles

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Keeping this in mind, I found Pamela Harvey Rousseau. Sorry if she's already been suggested/excluded. Little is known about Pamela but what we do know lines up with Jane Doe. I find it weird that Pamela just left her son with a neighbor. I wonder if she did intend on coming home. Nothing in her disappearance really indicates foul play to me. The only thing that does is that she went missing decades ago. Maybe she met the wrong person along the way?

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	Pamela Harvey Rousseau 2041DFON	Perry County Jane Doe 11UFPA
Sex	Female	Female
Race	White/Caucasian	White/Caucasian
Age	23	15 - 38
Height	5'6	5'2 - 5'9
Weight	125 pounds	105 - 170 pounds
DLC/DOD	December 1978	June 1978 - Approximately April 1979 (Months to a year prior)
Hair Color	Reddish blonde	Light brown to blonde
Eye Color	Brown	Unknown
Distinctive Features	Unknown/None	Healed fracture to midshaft of ninth rib.
Circumstances	Last seen sometime in December 1978 after leaving her son with a neighbor.	Found in Watts Township, Pennsylvania. Had ties to the Great Lakes region.
Distance	Greater Sudbury - Watts Township	596 miles

2041DFON - Pamela Harvey Rousseau

 

[SimsGuy67]

2041DFON - Pamela Harvey Rousseau

Forgot to add the links. Thanks for reminding me!
Here's both links:

11UFPA

2041DFON - Pamela Harvey Rousseau

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Has Joyce Alice Fisher been considered a possible match for the Perry County Jane Doe?

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

The physical description seems to match up pretty well, @SimsGuy67 would appreciate it if you could make a comparison table.

 

[SimsGuy67]

Has Joyce Alice Fisher been considered a possible match for the Perry County Jane Doe?

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

The physical description seems to match up pretty well, @SimsGuy67 would appreciate it if you could make a comparison table.

Joyce isn't a rule-out for Jane Doe so it's always possible. Joyce was from the Great Lakes region, in an area kind of close to Canada. I find it strange as to why someone would travel so far to dump her body, if she was murdered.

	Joyce Alice Fisher MP9624	Perry County Jane Doe UP5166
Sex	Female	Female
Race	White/Caucasian	White/Caucasian
Age	28	15 - 38
DLC/DOD	April 16, 1978	January 1978 - April 1979 (Months to a year prior)
Height	5'6	5'2 - 5'9 (Estimated 5'6)
Weight	125 pounds	105 - 170 pounds (Estimated 125 pounds)
Hair Color	Blond/Strawberry	Medium length light brown or blond hair which was possibly curly.
Eye Color	Green	Unknown
Distinctive Features	Unknown/None
Circumstances	Last seen near parent's summer cottage in Michigan. Was originally from Illinois. Foul play suspected.	Remains found over an embankment in Duncannon, Pennsylvania on June 20, 1979. Believed to be a homicide.
Distance	Cassopolis - Duncannon	548 miles

 

[HmmMysterious]

She's now an Othram case, her case is less than $2000 away from being fully funded.

Who is Perry County Jane Doe (1979)?

 

[SimsGuy67]

She's now an Othram case, her case is less than $2000 away from being fully funded.

Who is Perry County Jane Doe (1979)?

Wow! Thank you @othram for taking on this one!

 

[othram]

We are excited to help. We worked with the same agency on a case solve that was announced today:

After 9 years, Perry County John Doe is Identified

Pennsylvania State Police & Perry County District Attorney's Office Teams with Othram to Identify 2014 Homicide Victim

dnasolves.com