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[JMO8778]

Right. Funny how those intruder's arrived in an invisible getaway car...and the neighbors dogs did NOT bark at ALL that night. The neighbor said that the dogs bark at EVERYTHING and EVERYBODY....so why not the intruders when they came and left. They even barked at the police officer that came over that morning to question the neighbor (and the officer was still in the Ramsey's yard). But...they didn't bark at the intruder(s). I guess that they were invisible too.

since they were aliens,they had a cloaking device.

 

[JMO8778]

Now you've changed my question around. Actually, it was:

You're about to take a 6 year old from her house against her will for a long drive out of town on a winters night. What do you need?

can we post this one to you...what would you do if you were a parent who'd killed your child in a rage,or the spouse of one,and you had a lot of money,connections..and wanted to avoid criminal prosecution?

 

[Ames]

I don't know what you're talking about, I think I went thru this with BC, a devout RDI, and figured 100K in 100's and 18K in 20's was a stack about 8 or 9 inches tall.

A brief case makes sense for JR to make that kind of withdrawl, and a paper bag makes sense for a drop someplace. Of course a real kidnapper cares about the bag. Whats the big deal?

Why should they care...as long as they got their dam* money? And like John would be so stupid as to try and stuff the money in an INADEQUATE sized attaché. EVEN if he did...who the heck cares? I have heard of RN's that have said to put the money in a brown bag, or something like that. But never an ADEQUATE sized brown bag. A real kidnapper would not have cared less WHAT sort of bag it was...paper or plastic, attaché, pillowcase...adequate, inadequate, large, small, or somewhere in between. All they want is the MONEY!


Funny how the intruder can spell attaché, complete with accent mark...but, misspell business.

 

[Ames]

Now you've changed my question around. Actually, it was:

You're about to take a 6 year old from her house against her will for a long drive out of town on a winters night. What do you need?

My aren't we picky..LOL
Same thing...I just didn't feel like going back to get your direct quote...notice how I left out the quotation marks?

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

LOL...that's too funny!!!

Yep, I guess that was on their checklist...

Ransom note? Check
Cord? Check
Tape? Check
Blanket? Check
Paintbrush? Check
Pineapple? Check

Don't you know that the key to being a great kidnapper...is to have a snack available to feed the victim, in the victim's basement...with the parents and her brother sleeping just feet away.

I'm sorry but I can't find anything wrong with your list.

 

[Ames]

since they were aliens,they had a cloaking device.

They must have been swiped up real fast by their UFO.

 

[Ames]

can we post this one to you...what would you do if you were a parent who'd killed your child in a rage,or the spouse of one,and you had a lot of money,connections..and wanted to avoid criminal prosecution?

You are wasting your time JMO...Holdon will not answer your question. Holdon seems to have all the questions but none of the answers. It seems that Holdon can ask us questions...but we cannot ask Holdon any questions. There are lots of questions that I have asked..but have went unanswered.

 

[Ames]

I'm sorry but I can't find anything wrong with your list.

Okay, I will make this one easy for you...instead of "25 Questions"..I will just ask you one....Why did the intruder's serve JB pineapple in the first place? I will not even go into WHY they felt the need to take it to the basement for her.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

can we post this one to you...what would you do if you were a parent who'd killed your child in a rage,or the spouse of one,and you had a lot of money,connections..and wanted to avoid criminal prosecution?

I'd make it look like an accident. NOT like a capital murder

 

[JMO8778]

You are wasting your time JMO...Holdon will not answer your question. Holdon seems to have all the questions but none of the answers. It seems that Holdon can ask us questions...but we cannot ask Holdon any questions. There are lots of questions that I have asked..but have went unanswered.

me too...he skips whatever he doesn't have an answer for.reminds me of JR in DOI...just skip over whatever RDI evidence that can't be dealt with...

 

[JMO8778]

I'd make it look like an accident. NOT like a capital murder

..the victim has an 8 1/2 inch skull fracture..marks around her neck from manual strangulation...what 'accident' would cause that??? factor in the chronic abuse..and even if it wasn't chronic,it was THERE,and had to be accounted for....no 'accident' scenario would cover it.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Okay, I will make this one easy for you...instead of "25 Questions"..I will just ask you one....Why did the intruder's serve JB pineapple in the first place? I will not even go into WHY they felt the need to take it to the basement for her.

If intruders wanted to assault and murder JBR in the basement, then I can find no reason for pineapple.

If, however, intruders wanted to transport JBR, then I can find a reason.

 

[Ames]

If intruders wanted to assault and murder JBR in the basement, then I can find no reason for pineapple.

If, however, intruders wanted to transport JBR, then I can find a reason.

So why not feed her the pineapple in the getaway car?..Why waste precious time letting her eat it, in the basement?

 

[Ames]

..the victim has an 8 1/2 inch skull fracture..marks around her neck from manual strangulation...what 'accident' would cause that??? factor in the chronic abuse..and even if it wasn't chronic,it was THERE,and had to be accounted for....no 'accident' scenario would cover it.

Holdon will skip right over this post of yours...and pretend not to see it.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

..the victim has an 8 1/2 inch skull fracture..marks around her neck from manual strangulation...what 'accident' would cause that??? factor in the chronic abuse..and even if it wasn't chronic,it was THERE,and had to be accounted for....no 'accident' scenario would cover it.

JBR was brutally murdered. Thats why she has a skull fracture, marks on her neck, etc., You're absolutely right, no accident scenario covers that! By the way, manual strangulation and chronic abuse are RDI myths. They are imagined events that are only supported by opinions of those who were hired by the tabloids.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

So why not feed her the pineapple in the getaway car?..Why waste precious time letting her eat it, in the basement?

Precious time?? Intruders had up to TWO HOURS with JBR in the basement.

 

[JMO8778]

JBR was brutally murdered. Thats why she has a skull fracture, marks on her neck, etc., You're absolutely right, no accident scenario covers that!

correct,it was done by Patsy in a rage.either she did or didn't know JB was alive after that,but there was no way in heck she was going to take the rap for it,reputation-wise or jailtime wise.

By the way, manual strangulation and chronic abuse are RDI myths. They are imagined events that are only supported by opinions of those who were hired by the tabloids.

that is just a load of cr*p and I think you know it,Hold.The forensic evidence wasn't imagined,just because *you say so.Dr Werner Spitz says she was manually strangled by her shirt collar FIRST.He would be able to tell that from the marks on her neck,and esp. from that thumbprint that was there.That is hallmark of someone being out of control-and in a rage.
And specimens of cells veiwed under a microscope most certainly can,and did,show signs of chronic infiltrate into the cells...which means chronic abuse.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

correct,it was done by Patsy in a rage.either she did or didn't know JB was alive after that,but there was no way in heck she was going to take the rap for it,reputation-wise or jailtime wise.

that is just a load of cr*p and I think you know it,Hold.The forensic evidence wasn't imagined,just because *you say so.Dr Werner Spitz says she was manually strangled by her shirt collar FIRST.He would be able to tell that from the marks on her neck,and esp. from that thumbprint that was there.That is hallmark of someone being out of control-and in a rage.
And specimens of cells veiwed under a microscope most certainly can,and did,show signs of chronic infiltrate into the cells...which means chronic abuse.

Second hand opinions using photos isn't going to differentiate between manual 'strangulation' and manual 'grabbing by the neck'. The latter being more consistent with control over a victim, and less consistent with your imagined parental rage attack subsequently 'covered up' with a ligature (LOL). A parental rage attack that nobody saw or heard, by someone who has no history of anything like that.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

So why not feed her the pineapple in the getaway car?..Why waste precious time letting her eat it, in the basement?

Good question.

 

[DeeDee249]

If intruders wanted to assault and murder JBR in the basement, then I can find no reason for pineapple.

If, however, intruders wanted to transport JBR, then I can find a reason.

Why? Were they transporting her to a place where there would never be food available again? Or did they think a 6 year old's desire to nosh a bit would overtake her UTTER TERROR at being kidnapped and she's say "OK, since I may never see my parents again, may as well have that pineapple" !