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[Ames]

No, but en route they would not stop. Did you really expect JBR to go on a hunger strike after hours of not drinking?

Do you really expect that JB would have said..."Kidnappers...I am hungry, can I have something to eat?" Usually when people are being kidnapped..they are too scared to eat. They are afraid for their lives...eating is the last thing on their minds. And yes, I do know someone one that was almost kidnapped...it was my sister...and she couldn't eat for days after that. Funny how being kidnapped can make you lose your appetite. Weird how that works.

 

[Littledeer]

Actually Ames, I can see that a 6 year old if they were in a car and hadn't eaten. etc/ for a while, would ask probably somewhere along the line:

1.) I need to go potty........or I need to go....

2.) I'm thirsty, can I have something to drink....

3.) I'm hungry

4.) Where are you taking me?

5.) My Mommy and Daddy will find me (possibly)

BY NO MEANS DOES THIS MEAN I AGREE with HOLDEN!!! I am still waiting for Mr. Hat to answer some of my questions I had posted.

 

[Ames]

Actually Ames, I can see that a 6 year old if they were in a car and hadn't eaten. etc/ for a while, would ask probably somewhere along the line:

1.) I need to go potty........or I need to go....

2.) I'm thirsty, can I have something to drink....

3.) I'm hungry

4.) Where are you taking me?

5.) My Mommy and Daddy will find me (possibly)

BY NO MEANS DOES THIS MEAN I AGREE with HOLDEN!!! I am still waiting for Mr. Hat to answer some of my questions I had posted.

Even if she did ask for something...why would someone that is willing to KILL her, give her anything to eat, why should they care if she is hungy...remember, they do not like John OR his country?? "Yes, little girl...we will stop by this Mickey D's, just before we kill you".

And I am still waiting for "don'tholdyourbreath" to answer all of my questions...not ONE of them as been answered.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Actually Ames, I can see that a 6 year old if they were in a car and hadn't eaten. etc/ for a while, would ask probably somewhere along the line:

1.) I need to go potty........or I need to go....

2.) I'm thirsty, can I have something to drink....

3.) I'm hungry

4.) Where are you taking me?

5.) My Mommy and Daddy will find me (possibly)

BY NO MEANS DOES THIS MEAN I AGREE with HOLDEN!!! I am still waiting for Mr. Hat to answer some of my questions I had posted.

No.'s 1 and 2 are pretty basic needs. I think anyone is going to go no more than so many hours before wanting fluids. I wouldn't expect a child separated from their parents to stop drinking or stop eating entirely. Plus I'd expect anyone with a plan to transport a child interstate illegally would probably be thinking along those lines. And my guess is that this transport was going to last two days, while LE was looking for her.

Making a PBJ ahead of time or stopping for a Happy Meal might not be on a foreign kidnappers agenda.

 

[Ames]

No.'s 1 and 2 are pretty basic needs. I think anyone is going to go no more than so many hours before wanting fluids. I wouldn't expect a child separated from their parents to stop drinking or stop eating entirely. Plus I'd expect anyone with a plan to transport a child interstate illegally would probably be thinking along those lines. Making a PBJ or getting a Happy Meal might not be on a foreign kidnappers agenda.

But, grabbing a bowl of pineapple out of the fridge, and taking it to the BASEMENT (along with the CHILD), instead of the getaway car....would? Well, alrighty then.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Even if she did ask for something...why would someone that is willing to KILL her, give her anything to eat, why should they care if she is hungy...remember, they do not like John OR his country?? "Yes, little girl...we will stop by this Mickey D's, just before we kill you".

And I am still waiting for "don'tholdyourbreath" to answer all of my questions...not ONE of them as been answered.

As far as I'm concerned, JBR was to be kidnapped and brought to a foreign country to be raised to be somebody's captive wife, remember? It HAS happened before. Of course they care if she is hungry.

There was no intention to kill JBR once she was being transported by car. She was wrapped in a blanket and a bowl of pineapple was on hand so they wouldn't need to stop. No they didn't make PBJ sandwiches.

 

[JMO8778]

But, grabbing a bowl of pineapple out of the fridge, and taking it to the BASEMENT (along with the CHILD), instead of the getaway car....would? Well, alrighty then.

..and they even put the bowl back...what a riot!!!!!

 

[DeeDee249]

As far as I'm concerned, JBR was to be kidnapped and brought to a foreign country to be raised to be somebody's captive wife, remember? It HAS happened before. Of course they care if she is hungry.

There was no intention to kill JBR once she was being transported by car. She was wrapped in a blanket and a bowl of pineapple was on hand so they wouldn't need to stop. No they didn't make PBJ sandwiches.

So why kill her in the house? Getaway car have a dead battery? Or they decided not to wait another 2 years till she was old enough to marry. (Girls can be married at 8 years old -NOT a typo) in some "foreign" countries.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

So why kill her in the house? Getaway car have a dead battery? Or they decided not to wait another 2 years till she was old enough to marry. (Girls can be married at 8 years old -NOT a typo) in some "foreign" countries.

Dead battery seems somewhat remote reason. Are you being remote on purpose?

I don't know, lets see: They were kidnapping JBR and instead murdered her because...

...she got free from her bindings suddenly and was able to scream?

...one of them is nuts and cut loose on her?

...she did something, said something, or just something about JBR that made them change their mind?

...they thought they heard someone coming either on the street or in the house, so they panicked?

 

[Ames]

As far as I'm concerned, JBR was to be kidnapped and brought to a foreign country to be raised to be somebody's captive wife, remember? It HAS happened before. Of course they care if she is hungry.

There was no intention to kill JBR once she was being transported by car. She was wrapped in a blanket and a bowl of pineapple was on hand so they wouldn't need to stop. No they didn't make PBJ sandwiches.

Do you NOT see that it makes NO sense that they were planning on kidnapping her to be raised as somebody's wife...when they took her to the BASEMENT, and fed her pineapple in the BASEMENT...instead of taking HER to the CAR and FEEDING her in the CAR. Why in the world would somebody that intended to kidnap JB for the purpose of taking her to a foreign country...to make somebody a captive wife...take her to the basement in her own home for...according to you...TWO HOURS, and feed her pineapple?? When they could have saved time by taking her out of the bed, down the stairs and out the door, and fed her pineapple in the getaway car? I guess that after they killed her...and right before they left the house..then that is when they put the bowl back, huh? Do you not understand how ridiculous that sounds? Unbelievable would be more like it. There is no way that intruders would feel comfortable enough in someone elses home...enough to kidnap the daughter...and take her to the basement for TWO HOURS? Much less, take the time to (and make the noise)...to get her a bowl of pineapple with a spoon, that they would have had to open drawers to find.

 

[Ames]

..and they even put the bowl back...what a riot!!!!!

I know...its laughable. Holdon says that the intruders spent two hours with JB down in the basement, too. So, they were not only polite...but very comfortable about not being caught.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Do you NOT see that it makes NO sense that they were planning on kidnapping her to be raised as somebody's wife...when they took her to the BASEMENT, and fed her pineapple in the BASEMENT...instead of taking HER to the CAR and FEEDING her in the CAR. Why in the world would somebody that intended to kidnap JB for the purpose of taking her to a foreign country...to make somebody a captive wife...take her to the basement in her own home for...according to you...TWO HOURS, and feed her pineapple?? When they could have saved time by taking her out of the bed, down the stairs and out the door, and fed her pineapple in the getaway car? I guess that after they killed her...and right before they left the house..then that is when they put the bowl back, huh? Do you not understand how ridiculous that sounds? Unbelievable would be more like it. There is no way that intruders would feel comfortable enough in someone elses home...enough to kidnap the daughter...and take her to the basement for TWO HOURS? Much less, take the time to (and make the noise)...to get her a bowl of pineapple with a spoon, that they would have had to open drawers to find.

You're apparently forgetting that the cord and stungun used to move JBR from her bedroom to the basement is different than the blanket and tape used to move JBR from the basement to the car. Cord and stungun on pajama'd girl just looks different on the street than a rolled up blanket, don't you think??

 

[Ames]

So why kill her in the house? Getaway car have a dead battery? Or they decided not to wait another 2 years till she was old enough to marry. (Girls can be married at 8 years old -NOT a typo) in some "foreign" countries.

According to holdon, they spent two hours in the basement with JB, trying to decide what to do with her. Do we kidnap her? Do we kill her? Do we molest her? Do we molest her and then kidnap her? Do we molest her and then kill her? Do we molest her, kidnap her and then kill her? Decisions...decisions. But, somehow the plan went terribly wrong...I am not sure exactly WHAT plan that was...since they had so many, and was having such a hard time deciding on one. But, whatever the plan was...it went wrong...and they had to kill her..right there in the basement. Thank God for the rolling the eyes smiley.

 

[JMO8778]

I know...its laughable. Holdon says that the intruders spent two hours with JB down in the basement, too. So, they were not only polite...but very comfortable about not being caught.

yea...same way ppl who live there are....
where does he get this 'wife' thing??? that's just made up.there was never any evidence anyone was going to take JB to be a future wife,much less a foreigner.How would they even get her out of the country...there would have been a high alert out for her,and she would have needed a passport..did the KN take that??? LOL, Nope,but the R's sure did get theirs

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

yea...same way ppl who live there are....
where does he get this 'wife' thing??? that's just made up.there was never any evidence anyone was going to take JB to be a future wife,much less a foreigner.How would they even get her out of the country...there would have been a high alert out for her,and she would have needed a passport..did the KN take that??? LOL, Nope,but the R's sure did get theirs

Yeah, as if the only way out of the US is with a passport. Give me a break. Thats like saying drug cartels declare their imports. Dream on.

 

[Ames]

Dead battery seems somewhat remote reason. Are you being remote on purpose?

I don't know, lets see: They were kidnapping JBR and instead murdered her because...

...she got free from her bindings suddenly and was able to scream?

...one of them is nuts and cut loose on her?

...she did something, said something, or just something about JBR that made them change their mind?

...they thought they heard someone coming either on the street or in the house, so they panicked?

She got free from her bindings suddenly and was able to scream? Both of her hands were bound...according to John...and HE SAID that they were bound tightly. She had tape over her mouth..so how could have screamed? And why would an intruder place tape over JB's mouth AFTER they had killed her, anyway. So there goes THAT reason.

One of them is nuts and cut loose on her? My, my...and they came all the way to the US from another country. I bet the other member's of that SFF were ticked off about that. They came all that way for nothing. Not just ONE of them is nuts...they all are...they would have to be to break into someone's home, write a three page RN, kidnap the daughter, take her to the basement, feed her pineapple, and kill her....oh yeah, and wiped the blood from her thighs and change her underwear. I hardly think that after all of that planning...and coming to the US ...from another country...that one of them would have went nuts and cut loose on her.
So, there goes THAT reason.

Something about JB made them change their mind? What in world could she have said or done..to make them decide to kill her instead of kidnap her? I am sure that she didn't threaten them...she was SIX. So there goes THAT reason.

They heard a noise and panicked? So they KILL HER? And take the time to wipe her down, redress her and change her underwear? I don't know about you, but if I were trying to kidnap a child, and I heard a noise and panicked...I would get the heck outta there, NOT kill the child (that would have made more noise). So there goes THAT reason.

Anymore reasons?? Or are you fresh out??

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

According to holdon, they spent two hours in the basement with JB, trying to decide what to do with her. Do we kidnap her? Do we kill her? Do we molest her? Do we molest her and then kidnap her? Do we molest her and then kill her? Do we molest her, kidnap her and then kill her? Decisions...decisions. But, somehow the plan went terribly wrong...I am not sure exactly WHAT plan that was...since they had so many, and was having such a hard time deciding on one. But, whatever the plan was...it went wrong...and they had to kill her..right there in the basement. Thank God for the rolling the eyes smiley.

Maybe she got loose and screamed just as they were going to take her in blanket with tape out of the basement. So they killed her and split.

Or,

Maybe they had to see if JBR was what they wanted, and they decided she wasn't, so they killed her as previously planned.

For sure I'm going with the pineapple in the car idea, though. TY

 

[JMO8778]

Yeah, as if the only way out of the US is with a passport. Give me a break. Thats like saying drug cartels declare their imports. Dream on.

so the intruders who don't exist anyway were going to smuggle her out the same way they get drugs out of the country...

 

[Ames]

You're apparently forgetting that the cord and stungun used to move JBR from her bedroom to the basement is different than the blanket and tape used to move JBR from the basement to the car. Cord and stungun on pajama'd girl just looks different on the street than a rolled up blanket, don't you think??

HUH? What has that got to do with them taking her to the BASEMENT and feeding her pineapple...instead of taking her to the getaway car to feed her??

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

so the intruders who don't exist anyway were going to smuggle her out the same way they get drugs out of the country...

Tell yourself that. People go into other countries to kidnap people all the time.