Parents pay kids for good grades

  • #141
southcitymom said:
We Americans are NOT known for being geography-literate, that's for sure. In 7th grade I took a class called GAWA (Geography and World Affairs) - I learned so much about things going on outside the borders of my own country...but I don't think this class is standard fare in most schools.

I am geographically illiterate. I was once looked down upon with distaste and informed that I am "The product of a public school system" by a Catholic School graduate. :-) I couldn't have told you where Egypt was located either.

Many years ago, I accidently happened upon an online friend from India and he's constantly amazed at how ignorant I am about anything happening outside of my own back yard. Both Geographically and Politically. He's still my friend, but is still quite amused at my ignorance of anything outside of my own little world.

It's okay though. He doesn't know what temperature is optimal for corn snake babies to hatch, or the best way to care for a snake with a broken neck. We all have our specialities of things to know. :-)
 
  • #142
GlitchWizard said:
I am geographically illiterate. I was once looked down upon with distaste and informed that I am "The product of a public school system" by a Catholic School graduate. :-) I couldn't have told you where Egypt was located either.

Many years ago, I accidently happened upon an online friend from India and he's constantly amazed at how ignorant I am about anything happening outside of my own back yard. Both Geographically and Politically. He's still my friend, but is still quite amused at my ignorance of anything outside of my own little world.

It's okay though. He doesn't know what temperature is optimal for corn snake babies to hatch, or the best way to care for a snake with a broken neck. We all have our specialities of things to know. :-)
Although that GAWA class raised my awareness of Geography I would still probably bring shame to America if I were asked any questions about Geography on national TV! I tend to concentrate more on my own little corner of the globe than the entire globe!
 
  • #143
southcitymom said:
Tramp is slang for a prostitute or for a person who is sexually promiscuous, so I think a sexually active youngster who isn't turning tricks or taking on numerous partners doesn't qualify!


Tramp means a woman of loose morals. Whether she gets paid for it or not would determine whether she's a prostitute.
 
  • #144
southcitymom said:
Tramp is slang for a prostitute or for a person who is sexually promiscuous, so I think a sexually active youngster who isn't turning tricks or taking on numerous partners doesn't qualify!
Sexually active youngsters are known for being monogamous?


I'm sorry I offended you by using the word tramp to describe children sleeping with other children before they are considered legal adults.
 
  • #145
Jeana (DP) said:
Tramp means a woman of loose morals. Whether she gets paid for it or not would determine whether she's a prostitute.
So, we should probably say that the youngsters are not loose in their morals, or tramps, but "sexually precocious". ;-)
 
  • #146
Some of my boys were in the advanced classes that had weighted grades. Sometimes there was a C that was worth an B on the traditional grading scale. Do you guys allow for that, or are they only rewarded for A's and B's regardless of difficulty level?
 
  • #147
JBean said:
Some of my boys were in the advanced classes that had weighted grades. Sometimes there was a C that was worth an B on the traditional grading scale. Do you guys allow for that, or are they only rewarded for A's and B's regardless of difficulty level?
I didn't pay my daughter for grades, but for my reaction to her grades, I look at why she got the grades she did. For example, last year, her grades for turned in assignments were 100% or close to it. She didn't get very good grades on her report card though, because the rest of her grades were zeros from not turning in assignments! It was a weighted class - but she didn't "perform" her "job" consistantly.

If she performed her best, consistantly, I'd be proud of her for it regardless of grades. Grades show what you can do if you try your best, compared to other kids. I'd prefer to compare my daughter to her own personal best at any ability.
 
  • #148
JBean said:
Some of my boys were in the advanced classes that had weighted grades. Sometimes there was a C that was worth an B on the traditional grading scale. Do you guys allow for that, or are they only rewarded for A's and B's regardless of difficulty level?

I only give money for As.

When you think about it, society pays kids for grades. Scholarships are handed out, schools get free meal coupons from local businesses that they hand out at awards ceremonies, they sometimes get points that they can spend in the school's AR store, they get free pencils from teachers, or candy. They receive all sorts of different things from the school or the community for doing well in school. Us parents paying them for good grades is just an extension of that sort of thing.
 
  • #149
GlitchWizard said:
So, we should probably say that the youngsters are not loose in their morals, or tramps, but "sexually precocious". ;-)



I don't know. I can't go there yet. My two youngest are TOO young for me to be thinking about that in connection with them. :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
  • #150
Bobbisangel said:
Is that what some people call tattoos..."tramp stamps?" I don't think a tattoo makes a girl look like a tramp. My almost 18 yr old granddaughter has a chinese symbol a little bit below her waist on one side. I didn't ask her what it meant and I didn't give permission for her to get it. A person who does tattoo's for a living did it in his home...he is a friend of her friend. I was pretty ticked off at first but then decided that she is the one who will have it for life and I also needed to pick my battles and decided to let that one go.
She has had her tongue pierced, her belly button pierced, ears twice on each side and the side of her nose. She HAD them...the earrings are all out now and the holes healed up! Just a fad for her. I didn't mind the piercings because I knew what would happen. But I did mind the tattoo because it is hers for the rest of her life.
I recently got my nose pierced....at the age of 35! It's gorgeous....nothing major, just a very tiny clear diamond (rhinestone) stud. It's really small, and I got the idea about a week prior to doing it, and haven't regretted it a bit. I think it's beautiful. So far, my kids haven't wanted to get any piercings, but they all got a good chuckle when they discovered MOM had a nose piercing!:laugh:
 
  • #151
Jeana (DP) said:
I only give money for As.

When you think about it, society pays kids for grades. Scholarships are handed out, schools get free meal coupons from local businesses that they hand out at awards ceremonies, they sometimes get points that they can spend in the school's AR store, they get free pencils from teachers, or candy. They receive all sorts of different things from the school or the community for doing well in school. Us parents paying them for good grades is just an extension of that sort of thing.
Thanks Jeana, I am trying to compute it. Scholarships and more are given for kids that have "B"'s too.
I graduted HS with a 3.9. But I had my share of "C"'s. I was in advanced level classes so my C's were worth more, so it raised my GPA. Many kids graduate with 4.5 GPA's. I would have been totally ripped off if my parents paid for A's.:D
I was able to maintain an even higher GPA in college, because school always came easily to me. My kids have all had to work much harder than I did. But all their efforts were rewarded. If they weren't working to potential, they got a kick in the arse.
 
  • #152
GlitchWizard said:
Sexually active youngsters are known for being monogamous?


I'm sorry I offended you by using the word tramp to describe children sleeping with other children before they are considered legal adults.
You didn't offend me at all...I was just responding to the question you asked another poster about the definition of tramp. I looked it up - it doesn't just define a woman. It means a person of loose morals OR a prostitute.
 
  • #153
GlitchWizard said:
I didn't pay my daughter for grades, but for my reaction to her grades, I look at why she got the grades she did. For example, last year, her grades for turned in assignments were 100% or close to it. She didn't get very good grades on her report card though, because the rest of her grades were zeros from not turning in assignments! It was a weighted class - but she didn't "perform" her "job" consistantly.

If she performed her best, consistantly, I'd be proud of her for it regardless of grades. Grades show what you can do if you try your best, compared to other kids. I'd prefer to compare my daughter to her own personal best at any ability.
I feel the same. I never compared to others, especially siblings.
I had zero tolerance for not turning in assignments; that made me nuts.
I was more than happy with a "C" if I knew that all the work was done, they sought extra help and gave it their best shot. I was not happy with a B if I knew it was class that came easily and assignments were missing. I had a pretty good idea what to expect out of each child. more often than not I was pleasantly surprised.
 
  • #154
JBean said:
I feel the same. I never compared to others, especially siblings.
I had zero tolerance for not turning in assignments; that made me nuts.
I was more than happy with a "C" if I knew that all the work was done, they sought extra help and gave it their best shot. I was not happy with a B if I knew it was class that came easily and assignments were missing. I had a pretty good idea what to expect out of each child. more often than not I was pleasantly surprised.
In general, I am pleasantly surprised by my daughter. Not always at the time - but when I see other kids, and the issues with drugs and pregnancy, skipping classes, flunking out, sneaking out, making out with boys, gossipping and making fun of others, wearing hussy clothing - I walk a little talller and have a horrible urge to hold her up and admire her. (Then she'll open her mouth and say something snotty that a 14 year old would say and that glorious image fades!)
 
  • #155
GlitchWizard said:
In general, I am pleasantly surprised by my daughter. Not always at the time - but when I see other kids, and the issues with drugs and pregnancy, skipping classes, flunking out, sneaking out, making out with boys, gossipping and making fun of others, wearing hussy clothing - I walk a little talller and have a horrible urge to hold her up and admire her. (Then she'll open her mouth and say something snotty that a 14 year old would say and that glorious image fades!)
There were times that I wished grades were my only concern. Believe me, I have put 4 boys through high school, am about to put the 5th through and I cannot wait to see if this one is going to show me something I haven't seen before:p
 
  • #156
A loooong time ago when I was in school I always had trouble with arithmetic. I had very poor teachers in grade school, really struggled and in the seventh grade I prayed desperately that I would not be called on - ever. I was the fifth girl in the family with a very busy working widowed Mom. In the ninth grade, I opted to take algebra and had a good teacher. I worked so hard, she helped me after school many times. I got my first and only C- and she explained I didn't get a D because I had worked so hard - not because my scores warrented it. When I went to tenth grade I took geometry and my mother had to take off work and go to school because they wanted me to drop the class or fail. I dropped the class, took a general math class and at least got a C. My mother told me how proud she was of me. It took many years, many different jobs where math played a part before I felt comfortable.

I didn't pay my kids for grades but always stayed up with their homework, tests etc. If bad grades appeared or bad behavior, they lost privileges. They had to stay with me every evening, all weekend, go to the stores with me - I told them that a child who was loved as much as they were must not be getting enough love and attention - Once my daughter's boyfriend called and I had to tell him she wasn't allowed on the phone. He said - Oh she's getting love and attention?

Pay or not pay? whatever works!
 
  • #157
JBean said:
There were times that I wished grades were my only concern. Believe me, I have put 4 boys through high school, am about to put the 5th through and I cannot wait to see if this one is going to show me something I haven't seen before:p
Maybe he will show you something GOOD you haven't seen before. Maybe? :-)
I used to be a little more concerned about grades than I am now. Once your only kid falls through a ceiling, it puts things in perspective. I remember in the emergency room when they said she broke her back my Mother admonished me for not crying and carrying on like she was about Donna.

I was actually HIGH on the fact she was breathing, coherant and able to talk. Walking wasn't the biggest concern - and grades - I promise you I didn't think of those for the next YEAR of school.

Sometimes priorities get scrambled around a bit. :-)

Good luck with your last one to leave the nest. I'm SO jealous, always wanted a bunch of 'em.
 
  • #158
lorann - I'm proud of your mother. :-) I hated math. I don't think I ever did well in any part of math. I took Logic in college to avoid math. I'm now a computer programmer and everytime mathmatical calculations come up - I have to go get help. :-(



lorann said:
A loooong time ago when I was in school I always had trouble with arithmetic. I had very poor teachers in grade school, really struggled and in the seventh grade I prayed desperately that I would not be called on - ever. I was the fifth girl in the family with a very busy working widowed Mom. In the ninth grade, I opted to take algebra and had a good teacher. I worked so hard, she helped me after school many times. I got my first and only C- and she explained I didn't get a D because I had worked so hard - not because my scores warrented it. When I went to tenth grade I took geometry and my mother had to take off work and go to school because they wanted me to drop the class or fail. I dropped the class, took a general math class and at least got a C. My mother told me how proud she was of me. It took many years, many different jobs where math played a part before I felt comfortable.

I didn't pay my kids for grades but always stayed up with their homework, tests etc. If bad grades appeared or bad behavior, they lost privileges. They had to stay with me every evening, all weekend, go to the stores with me - I told them that a child who was loved as much as they were must not be getting enough love and attention - Once my daughter's boyfriend called and I had to tell him she wasn't allowed on the phone. He said - Oh she's getting love and attention?

Pay or not pay? whatever works!
 
  • #159
GlitchWizard said:
Sexually active youngsters are known for being monogamous?


I'm sorry I offended you by using the word tramp to describe children sleeping with other children before they are considered legal adults.

I think what people are reacting to is that you would consider your own child a tramp if she had sex before she was 18.
 
  • #160
OneLostGrl said:
I think what people are reacting to is that you would consider your own child a tramp if she had sex before she was 18.
That's just because they don't know me. My daughter walks on water and can do no wrong. I have unconditional love for her. My love and respect and adoration are without any bounds and without ANY conditions. Even if she behaved like a tramp. :laugh: (That was a joke.)

However, that doesn't mean I have to buy her a car if she doesn't do the one thing I ask of her. :-) Gifts of a vehicle can come with conditions.

PS
She starts college at 16, not 18. She's on that track.
 

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