Pastor of mega church says wife has gone away for 1 year...

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SwampMama: They may be back together by then for all we know, and selling a bunch more tickets for how they survived the worse case ever seen. And you can now buy their book too.

That is what I think. My post #520. I hope I am right as I have a bet going on. LOL!!
 
  • #583
In watching the posted video of the former witch with Ron and Hope in background, the lady claims to have had multiple personalities and demons. Scary. Baptists would just say Hope may not have been saved in the first place, but these people might try to pull a miracle. I'm not sure many of them admit to backsliding and Jimmy Swaggart nor the Baker's never fully recovered from scandals, so not sure why they'd do it this way.
 
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That is what I think. My post #520. I hope I am right as I have a bet going on. LOL!!

You definitely have a very good point with that. I wouldn't put it past Ron to do such a thing. He is definitely up to something and this was planned by him for some purpose. Now we just wait to see what the apostle reveals to us, lol.

I think Ron is just ready to take over the entire world. The more I find out about the more I am just shaking my head and saying there is NO way this man has any time to personally interact with congregation. It's all image, staging, light shows, smoke machines and show.

He really has a multi-level marketing thing going on in so many areas.

I wish there was more we could do to find Hope. He said she had her own car and her keys (but of course that could be a lie.). I'm sure that car has been rigged with a GPS tracker, no doubt.
 
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My poor hubby. I have been going to bed each morning right about the time he gets up to go hop on the tractor and make hay. he asked me last night "What ARE you doing all night". I told him I was looking for Hope, lol.

But seriously, all of this is fascinating reading. Not just the Hope and Ron stuff but the personal experiences of members, the actual profit of the ministry and the hard sell and hawking that goes along with it.

Gee, the only thing our local churches ever sell are little cookbooks of member contributions, or maybe have a bake sale. I like that!
 
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So assuming Hope is in some sex addict treatment place. How would that work exactly? You lock a bunch of sex addicts up in one facility together and expect them to get better? Or do they just all end up having sex together, which is what I see would happen. Some one explain that to me please.
 
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So assuming Hope is in some sex addict treatment place. How would that work exactly? You lock a bunch of sex addicts up in one facility together and expect them to get better? Or do they just all end up having sex together, which is what I see would happen. Some one explain that to me please.
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Well they'd better do it quick cuz they are being checked every 15 minutes!
 
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:floorlaugh:

Well they'd better do it quick cuz they are being checked every 15 minutes!

Maybe that's why they're being checked every 15 minutes.. Lol.. That's plenty of time for alot of folks..
 
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Yeah, i wondered how locking up a bunch of sexually frustrated sex addicts would work. It didn't seem to be a great idea to isolate them all, block them from the world with nothing else to do and expect them to suddenly change. That's the kind of situation that causes relationships to happen because of the close intimate proximity and the group meeting and sharing.
 
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What better scenario for a sex addict than to be locked up with other sex addicts? It's a win win right!
 
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I liked that song the first time I heard it on the way to work and I never listen to Christian music.. But I was new to town and didn't know the radio stations etc.. Still not sure if it was a Christian station or not just liked the lyrics and the song
 
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So her vehicle and keys are gone too, and she supposedly has them? Very odd. You'd think her family would take her vehicle or just wait until she gets day passes during the treatment. I wonder about her jewelry and clothes, or if comfy clothes one might wear in rehab are still in the home.
 
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OK, here is my mini rant. you may skip it if you like :)

My biggest problem with Ron is this. He seems to be a man who is wrapped up in his image, his pursuit of fame and his prosperity. NONE of these things are things that I think of when I think of a good pastor.

To me, a pastor is there to minister to people and his community. To be there, have real contact with them, work alongside them, to be an actual person there, not just to be some big rockstar on stage telling THEM how to live when you seem to be pretty far removed from the everyday reality of their lives. And especially when his own life seems to have an awful lot of issues going on that he is ignoring or flat out lying about because he won't give up the center stage.

And then selling them advice on marriage when he KNOWS his own is a sham. Oh but NO!

Most people in difficult times like these would ask for privacy, take leave and get their house in order, get right with God and their spouse and THEN they may be ready to get back into the rest of life.

But not Ron. In his own words to his congregation after his confession of the wreck of his life , he told them " Let me heal in front of you". WHY? It does NOT serve the congregation to have him and all his long simmering issues and his obviously needy, attention hungry personality to be the focus of it. It only serves him.

He needs to step down till he gets his life in order or just step away. He loses credibility with each minute that he continues to talk, preach and try to convince us of stuff when we now know that he has been flat out LYING for at least 10 years.

He should have just quietly took a sabbatical and handled things, even if it was a divorce. After all, he and Hope have been preaching for 25 years. Why wouldn't he take a few months or a year of his life and just devote it to his wife. Let her just be a wife for a year, not be in the public eye and living up to everyone elses expectations.

I don't think they really ever were just husband and wife. There was always the pursuit of a church and congregation driving him. He was never home and if he was, he was probably tired or still doing churchy stuff like calls, sermons, etc. i get it, it is a full time job.

I have put a lot of time into looking up stuff on this church and it's practices and I am appalled at what a racket it is. It's basically a lot like a multi level marketing scheme for God.

And this prosperity gospel? I don't like it. I don't have anything against people having money but I don;t like greed, I don;t like hawking products that people don't need to people that cant afford them.

From what i see, Ron will never have enough. he preaches, sells his sermons to other churches for a hefty price, has another business ordaining people (and expects them to go out and preach and still tithe to him, heck, you can even open your OWN branch of RWOC if you have all of the money, building, business plan and you PAY HIM. he expects those profits!! It's basically like buying a franchise.

All I can see is that it is NOT about God really. Not at all... And that is freaking sad and disgusting. It's a disgrace.

And i think Hope is safe and hiding out. It is all coming out now. I know she isn't perfect, i never did think that.

Just drop the microphone and step away from the camera Ron. before you do even more damage to your already very deluded and disillusioned congregation.

But I do have to thank Ron for the education in the prosperity gospel. It has been quite enlightening.
 
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OK, I forced myself to watch this guy and I believe there is steroid abuse going on and he keeps licking his lips which I think is a possible reaction to some other type of drug use. Also noticed a tic at one time, which my daughter got when we had her on Ritalin and I took her off and it went away. Just some observations and my opinion. And a couple other things I wont mention but suspect highly.
I have my theories that he's on a "whole heap-a somethin' " but I can barely get past the ?!$!!?$@ in my mind just looking at a still frame from the videos posted to ask myself what that is. His eyes are unnaturally wide open and I don't mean that in a figurative sense because he's clearly blind to many things.

Someone snag an over-processed hair off this man's head STAT and run it to a tox screen! (I kid!):floorlaugh:
 
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Maybe it's me, but I get a total gay vibe from this guy. Similar to that Haggard or Haggert one a few years back. There is a lot of repressed homosexuality in these circles where gayness is condemned. Maybe it's unfair bias but I think many of those religious figures most crazed about homosexuality and almost always focused on gay men not women, have some sexual preference confusion issues themselves.

Did she find out he was gay or that he was still acting out his gay impulses after an agreement to stop? I just feel like he wouldn't be hiding his wife and publicly airing her infidelities and indiscretions and problems if he didn't want to hide and deflect some personal truths.


I'm catching up on this thread so I'm not sure if you are the only person that mentioned this.

What you said about the gay vibe and possible similarities with the Ted Haggard situation was the first thing that went through my head.

I do believe he's deflecting attention away from himself, or using his wife's situation as the pillow he will fall on when he finally falls himself.
 
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I'm catching up on this thread so I'm not sure if you are the only person that mentioned this.

What you said about the gay vibe and possible similarities with the Ted Haggard situation was the first thing that went through my head.

I do believe he's deflecting attention away from himself, or using his wife's situation as the pillow he will fall on when he finally falls himself.

You are definitely NOT the only ones to mention it. That comment is quite rampant among the comments on Ron and what really ails him. I think he has more issues than Time Magazine.
 
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IS HOPE HERE??!!

check out the comment at this site!!
it tells where they think Hope is and this person used to work at the church, so she says.

http://hopehilleycarpenter.blogspot....l#comment-form

She says check out the Living Waters Ministries in North Carolina. Hope and Ron have gotten counseling at that place for many years. The commenter says she is alive but she is in hiding.

http://www.livingwatersministry.com/
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If he had that, don't you think he'd be taking meds for it, and Im sure it would be part of his sermon and how he is overcoming it, fighting it etc. I am leaning toward cocaine and tweeking, or some methamphetamine.

I've said it before....something is not right with his eyes......how can anyone stand to be around him? Creepy is not enough to describe them. I can't get past his picture to watch the videos. It's the stuff of nightmares.
 
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