Patsy Ramsey is close to death

[Eagle1]

Anyone heard anything about her current status?

 

[michelle]

I just got a magazine and i bought it because it said something about patsy and its stating that she is in the end stages now and could only be a matter of weeks, although it is the globe or something so we know how they can be....but it had some beautiful pics of jon benet in it, she was sooo pretty....

 

[Moab]

I just got a magazine and i bought it because it said something about patsy and its stating that she is in the end stages now and could only be a matter of weeks, although it is the globe or something so we know how they can be....but it had some beautiful pics of jon benet in it, she was sooo pretty....

Yesterday, Sun Oct 16 15:03:33 CDT 2005
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I just saw Mr. and Mrs. Ramsey at the Charlevoix Applefest this weekend and she definately is not "near death." She was downtown walking and shopping and talking with people. She does look quite bloated, yes, but overall not bad, and definately not near death as has been reported. The cancer and treatment sure has taken its toll on her appearance though.

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[Eagle1]

Hopefully this means there's still hope.

 

[Moab]

Hopefully this means there's still hope.

Hope of what? That she will confess? Don't hold your breath - you will explode!

 

[Goody]

I don't believe that. It doesn't say that in the Bible either.

According to her faith all she need do is ask God for forgiveness...

Confession was the church's way of finding out peoples dirty little secrets so it could be used against them IMO.

It says we shouldn't leave this world without settling our debts. I take that to mean that we shouldn't leave any unfinished business behind...ask for forgiveness where needed and give forgiveness where needed. That would include the public that has become so wrapped up in little JB's life and tragic death. Patsy needs to settle her debts. She needs to tell what really happened that night. Even if she leaves it behind to be done afterwards. It is her call how she does it. The only important thing spiritually is that she does it.

 

[Goody]

I'm impressed that you have such control over your emotions. By the grace of God I have never found myself in that type of situation, but I think my impulse on seeing my beautiful daughter in such obvious trauma would be exactly what John did. I don't believe my first thought would be crime scene preservation, it would be get her upstairs, get her help now. It was the BPD's mistake in letting JR search the house unaccompanied.

Come on. Rigor mortis had set in. The child was stiff as a board. Who would pick up their child in that condition without totally losing it? The instant he tried to pick her up and realized how stiff she was, you'd think his first reaction would be to lay her back down and get authorities down there. That whole scene of carrying her upstairs at arm's length away from him is just sooooooo dramatic. Then Patsy throwing herself on top of her rather than trying to cuddle her in her arms. How much more drama could they have put into it? It so obviously was created to explain any forensics that might have connected either of them to the body. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but it is my opinion after all I have heard and read on the case.

 

[HeartofTexas]

And don't let's forget all of the commotion that was created by John bringing JonBenet's body upstairs... and did Patsy get up off the chair she was sitting in to see what was going on? Nooooo. She continued to sit there in the chair because she KNEW JonBenet was already dead. And, when she did finally go in there to see JonBenet, she went into some inappropriate and loud Lazarus speech and then laid across her daughter's body, all the while wailing and preaching. It doesn't get much more bizarre than that.

 

[txsvicki]

Come on. Rigor mortis had set in. The child was stiff as a board. Who would pick up their child in that condition without totally losing it? The instant he tried to pick her up and realized how stiff she was, you'd think his first reaction would be to lay her back down and get authorities down there. That whole scene of carrying her upstairs at arm's length away from him is just sooooooo dramatic. Then Patsy throwing herself on top of her rather than trying to cuddle her in her arms. How much more drama could they have put into it? It so obviously was created to explain any forensics that might have connected either of them to the body. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but it is my opinion after all I have heard and read on the case.

If John didn't know that JonBenet was deceased, I find it odd that he would move her at all. For all he knew, she was injured, obviously not conscious, and moving an injured person could cause more harm.

 

[Goody]

If John didn't know that JonBenet was deceased, I find it odd that he would move her at all. For all he knew, she was injured, obviously not conscious, and moving an injured person could cause more harm.

That's a good point.

 

[Goody]

And don't let's forget all of the commotion that was created by John bringing JonBenet's body upstairs... and did Patsy get up off the chair she was sitting in to see what was going on? Nooooo. She continued to sit there in the chair because she KNEW JonBenet was already dead. And, when she did finally go in there to see JonBenet, she went into some inappropriate and loud Lazarus speech and then laid across her daughter's body, all the while wailing and preaching. It doesn't get much more bizarre than that.

I agree. It is out there, just like a lot of their behavior in the following months. I realize they wanted to protect themselves, but you'd think their first concern would be in catching the killer. They didn't seem to be real motivated in that dept.

 

[concernedperson]

I agree. It is out there, just like a lot of their behavior in the following months. I realize they wanted to protect themselves, but you'd think their first concern would be in catching the killer. They didn't seem to be real motivated in that dept.

Well, I guess a bunch of us noticed this same behavior. Sorry people. RIP, JBR.

 

[Buzz Mills]

I'm sorry to hear that Patsy Ramsey is close to death. That family has been through the ringer. Hopefully she will be going to a far more peaceful place.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I'm sorry to hear that Patsy Ramsey is close to death. That family has been through the ringer. Hopefully she will be going to a far more peaceful place.

She isn't close to death

 

[Buzz Mills]

She isn't close to death

Thanks for updating me, Linda7NJ; I was just going by the title of the thread. Incompetent police work at the very beginning of this case, caused an irreconcilable situation that managed to leave a very bad taste in everyone's mouth. It's too bad for everyone concerned.

 

[Rupert]

And don't let's forget all of the commotion that was created by John bringing JonBenet's body upstairs... and did Patsy get up off the chair she was sitting in to see what was going on? Nooooo. She continued to sit there in the chair because she KNEW JonBenet was already dead. And, when she did finally go in there to see JonBenet, she went into some inappropriate and loud Lazarus speech and then laid across her daughter's body, all the while wailing and preaching. It doesn't get much more bizarre than that.

Actually, y'all got some good points there.

I got into that movie connection thing with Charlevoix, Leopold & Loeb, movie "Rope", and then realized that PR brought up the Lazarus thing. It was explicitly mentioned in "Rope" and I kind of agree that the loud Lazarus speech seemed somewhat prepared. Strange.

Rupert

 

[HeartofTexas]

I agree. It is out there, just like a lot of their behavior in the following months. I realize they wanted to protect themselves, but you'd think their first concern would be in catching the killer. They didn't seem to be real motivated in that dept.

Considering that John's first thought was to get his airplane engine fired up and headed out of Boulder that very day, I would say with great emphasis they were NOT too motivated to find the real killer.

 

[deanws]

I'm sorry to hear that Patsy Ramsey is close to death. That family has been through the ringer. Hopefully she will be going to a far more peaceful place.

I wouldn't bet the farm on that one.

 

[tipper]

I wouldn't bet the farm on that one.

Either Heaven or Hell will probably be more peaceful than this life has been for her.

 

[Casshew]

I have been seeing this thread bumped for months.. is she still close to death? closer to death? did she get better? :waitasec:

RiverRat - every time I see that pic of Patsy I get the willies, she has guilt & total creepiness written all over her