Patsy Ramsey

[Blue Bottle 01]

Some of us are voracious readers of the dictionary hence veracious posters not mendacious posters.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

patsy killed jonbenet deliberately.

in your opinion..

Lol

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

There was no garroting because there was no garrote.

I saw a garrote.. Anyone else??

She was suffocated with a garrote. A stick that was used to tighten the rope hence, Garrote.

 

[TaylurRose02]

Name one, especially when victim was a young child and lived with her parents. Patsy fibers mean nothing she lived there for crying out loud.

That's true, but fibers belonging to her were found on things relating to the crime. Not only that, but in Thomas's book he stated the fibers matched the blouse PR wore that night. I understand what you mean though. But what's odd is that neither parents fingerprints were on the ransom note, yet they claim to have handled it. Patsy's (and burkes) fingerprints were on the bowl of pineapple which she claimed not to have touched. The DNA is important to a lot of people, but so is the above. We can't outweigh evidence out of our own opinions.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Patsy did live in the home but these were not magical fibers.

Patsy wore the article of clothing with the fibers left on the knot at her baby girl's neck, and also in the paint tote near the broken paintbrush and nearby, close to the tote, were brush splinters on the carpet.

Another Patsy fiber is on the white blanket. Then, 4 red fibers are on the tape removed from her mouth at the CS that remained in the basement on the blanket far below where Patsy was stationed wearing her sweater in the solarium.

Further, Patsy explains to LE during her interviews that she never wore the red Essentials sweater in the basement. And did not wear it while painting. Ever.


One would have to believe in multiple coincidences to believe the mother was not directly involved in the garroting of her child.

Even if we remove the Patsy fiber on the white blanket from the equation of fiber coincidences, the mother's fibers belong in the home; however, not in the key incriminating locations where they were found.

Her fibers would be every where in that house even if she only wore something once and just upstairs. IT is the nature of fiber transfer. The only fibers that would count would be ones that should not be anywhere in the house.

 

[Blue Bottle 01]

hy·per·bo·le[ hī púrbəlee ]1.exaggeration: deliberate and obvious exaggeration used for effect, e.g. "I could eat a million of these"

 

[Chewy]

That's true, but fibers belonging to her were found on things relating to the crime. Not only that, but in Thomas's book he stated the fibers matched the blouse PR wore that night. I understand what you mean though. But what's odd is that neither parents fingerprints were on the ransom note, yet they claim to have handled it. Patsy's (and burkes) fingerprints were on the bowl of pineapple which she claimed not to have touched. The DNA is important to a lot of people, but so is the above. We can't outweigh evidence out of our own opinions.

How would someone "remove" their fingerprints from a piece of paper? I'd love to know?

A bowl that she put into the cupboard after she took out of the dishwasher? Her finger prints could have gotten on that bowl any number of ways. She also may have touched it and not realized it or remembered.

Also just checking, but wasn't there a PUBIC HAIR found on the blanket on Jonbenet that didn't match anyone in the Ramsey family? That is evidence. Clothing fibers from clothes that the mother wore found in a house she lived in is not suprising at all.

 

[Blue Bottle 01]

She was posed with ligatures, thus posing.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

That's true, but fibers belonging to her were found on things relating to the crime. Not only that, but in Thomas's book he stated the fibers matched the blouse PR wore that night. I understand what you mean though. But what's odd is that neither parents fingerprints were on the ransom note, yet they claim to have handled it. Patsy's (and burkes) fingerprints were on the bowl of pineapple which she claimed not to have touched. The DNA is important to a lot of people, but so is the above. We can't outweigh evidence out of our own opinions.

What fingerprints were found on the note? It does not have to mean that her fingerprints were not on it, but she could have touched it in a way that her fingerprint did not transfer well.

The bowl she did not have to touch that day, It could have been before and so she could have said, I did not put that bowl there, when in fact she had handled it in the past and so it held her prints.

 

[Blue Bottle 01]

I saw a garrote.. Anyone else??

She was suffocated with a garrote. A stick that was used to tighten the rope hence, Garrote.

In your opinion.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

She was posed with ligatures, thus posing.

No. She was strangled with it. So strangling.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

In your opinion.

No, Not opinion. The rope was tightened around her throat and she was strangled. The stick held her hair wrapped in the garrote.. So used. Not prop. Fact.

 

[Blue Bottle 01]

No, Not opinion. The rope was tightened around her throat and she was strangled. The stick held her hair wrapped in the garrote.. So used. Not prop. Fact.

In your opinion.

 

[DeDee]

While I am here, Detective Linda Arndt did not make her assessment that JDI in ten seconds. She had been with him for hours. She arrived at 8. The body was found at 1. That's 4 hours with JR if you subtract the hour when she lost track of him. An assessment took her 4 hours; not the 10 seconds as misrepresented.

So Patsy sent a secret message to John in the note that it took the cops ten seconds to notice?

Talk around the town is GOSSIP and if that is what you are building your theory on then it's flawwed.

I keep asking for evidence. It's one thing to have an opinion and base it on EVIDENCE and another thing to base it on gossip.

I posted my theory of how I think Patsy could have done it several pages ago. I based it on evidence. Not rumors and gossip.

Saying "something about the bonus bothered Patsy" isn't "evidence" it's gossip and speculation. Do you have any evidence that Patsy was 'bothered" by a bonus? Can you explain logically what woman and wife is "bothered" by her husband receiving a hundred thousand dollar bonus?

This is a highly complex case for many reasons; one of which is the ambiguity of the RN.

This "hideous" crime was committed with malice and forethought against an innocent 6yo little girl. The duct tape and nylon cord are sourced sufficiently for a jury as convincing circumstantial evidence when coupled with the other premed evidence that I have listed on the forum numerous times.


Please do not assume what I consider in my theory. The crime occurred far before the rumor of Patsy giving it up.

My theory, which is my opinion, is based on the official CS evidence and not on rumors. It is based on how I personally interpret the legal evidence thus far presented in the Ramsey Murder.

To suggest otherwise, is an insult that will be ignored.

 

[Blue Bottle 01]

blind·ers (blīn′dərz)
n.
2. Something that purposely serves to obscure clear perception and discernment.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

While I am here, Detective Linda Arndt did not make her assessment that JDI in ten seconds. She had been with him for hours. She arrived at 8. The body was found at 1. That's 4 hours with JR if you subtract the hour when she lost track of him. An assessment took her 4 hours; not the 10 seconds as misrepresented.




This is a highly complex case for many reasons; one of which is the ambiguity of the RN.

This "hideous" crime was committed with malice and forethought against an innocent 6yo little girl. The duct tape and nylon cord are sourced sufficiently for a jury as convincing circumstantial evidence when coupled with the other premed evidence that I have listed on the forum numerous times.


Please do not assume what I consider in my theory. The crime occurred far before the rumor of Patsy giving it up.

My theory, which is my opinion, is based on the official CS evidence and not on rumors. It is based on how I personally interpret the legal evidence thus far presented in the Ramsey Murder.

To suggest otherwise, is an insult that will be ignored.

No. She said in her interview that she looked into his eyes and she knew. Watch it and see. She had no reason to believe that he was anything more than a grieving father. I have seen fathers get mad, cry, go stoic. She never met him. You can not tell a murderer by looking at them or we would not need the justice system.

 

[DeDee]

How would someone "remove" their fingerprints from a piece of paper? I'd love to know?

A bowl that she put into the cupboard after she took out of the dishwasher? Her finger prints could have gotten on that bowl any number of ways. She also may have touched it and not realized it or remembered.

Also just checking, but wasn't there a PUBIC HAIR found on the blanket on Jonbenet that didn't match anyone in the Ramsey family? That is evidence. Clothing fibers from clothes that the mother wore found in a house she lived in is not suprising at all.

OGL. You are dealing with old outdated material if you believe in the pubic hair on the white blanket. It has been sourced as an ancillary hair belonging to the one and only Patsy Ramsey!

Patsy unloaded the dishwasher? I want proof of that.

There was a moment in John's interview when he was shown the picture similar to the one of my avatar where he describes what he sees.

He describes seeing Patsy's "good silver" spoon in the bowl.

That was no ordinary spoon in the bowlful of happiness. It was the family's best "silver" spoon.

 

[DeDee]

No. She said in her interview that she looked into his eyes and she knew. Watch it and see. She had no reason to believe that he was anything more than a grieving father. I have seen fathers get mad, cry, go stoic. She never met him. You can not tell a murderer by looking at them or we would not need the justice system.

Ironically, that interview was viewed recently. While I shall not go back and transcribe her words, my interpretation is that when John placed his daughter on the floor as she specifically instructed him to do at the top landing of the basement stairs, she bent down to lift the child to move her onto the rug, for some reason.

At that point, her gaze met John's. After everything she had been exposed to all morning, since arriving at the Rs home, suddenly made sense to her.

As a trained police officer who specialized in rape cases, the detective interpreted the information she possessed since arriving and until that moment of silence when her eyes met John Ramsey's while bending over JonBenét's dead body and she assessed danger in the air. She counted her bullets.

 

[Chewy]

Again it blows my mind that anyone can watch that video and not see a mentally ill woman

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Ironically, that interview was viewed recently. While I shall not go back and transcribe her words, my interpretation is that when John placed his daughter on the floor as she specifically instructed him to do at the top landing of the basement stairs, she bent down to lift the child to move her onto the rug, for some reason.

At that point, her gaze met John's. After everything she had been exposed to all morning, since arriving at the Rs home, suddenly made sense to her.

As a trained police officer who specialized in rape cases, the detective interpreted the information she possessed since arriving and until that moment of silence when her eyes met John Ramsey's while bending over JonBenét's dead body and she assessed danger in the air. She counted her bullets.

Sorry that is just nuts. The man just found his daughter dead body. carried it up and now what? My guess is she saw panic and fear, A " what do I do" in his eyes.

But you can not read the eyes of someone you met 3 hours before. It is just not possible. I can read dh's eyes because I have been with him 24 years.
But under these circumstances, In that time, With all that is going on.. It is just not possible. IT is bunk.

And the counting her bullets thing borders on ridiculous.