PDI and The Abuse?

I think Patsy made the bottom ponytail as she got JB ready for bed- so I don't think it matters wether it was at bedtime or prior- it makes no difference as far as the crime/staging. Obviously, had she been questioned further (and answered) it would have come out that JB was awake at some point after they got home. So- just like the pineapple snack- Patsy would have to have made up some fantastic lie about the "intruder" fixing JB's hair in her usual bedtime ponytail. Because if Patsy said she did it, it exposed the lie about whether she was awake or not. I do not believe she was questioned in detail or asked specifically if she made that ponytail THAT night. I just recall her discussing that she usually made a ponytail at bedtime for JB.
Obviously the R's version of events would differ. I do not think the bottom ponytail was staging. I think she simply made the usual bedtime hairstyle after they got home and never gave it a second thought. Like the pineapple snack and oversize panties, the double ponytails were something the Rs never gave a second thought to. They never thought they would be noticed by anyone else or that anyone would question them or make much out of them. When it turned out to be noticed and questioned- their only choice was to distance themselves from it.

DeeDee249,
I think Patsy made the bottom ponytail as she got JB ready for bed- so I don't think it matters wether it was at bedtime or prior- it makes no difference as far as the crime/staging.
BBM: I think it does. Depending on your favorite theory it can demonstrate that it might be inconsistent with what we know, i.e. James Kolar's BDI, which has JonBenet moving from the breakfast bar to the basement, or ST's PDI?

If Patsy made the bottom ponytail on arrival back from the White's, preparing JonBenet for bed, e.g. Pink Barbie Nightgown, then allowed JonBenet to snack pineapple, well James Kolar might be on the button.

Else if Patsy prepared a pineapple snack for JonBenet, allowed her to consume it, then readied her for bed, fashioning her ponytail, etc, that allows for a different scenario.

I think she simply made the usual bedtime hairstyle after they got home and never gave it a second thought.
Sure, I agree, yet when fabricating a crime-scene, Patsy's own construction is contradicted by the addition of the white gap top, and size-12's, items that appear inconsistent with a child that has been prepared for bed, never mind not removing the bottom ponytail, so to match their version of events?

It looks to me as if JonBenet enjoyed a harmonious pineapple snack, chaperoned by Patsy after which her bottom ponytail was fashioned and she dressed for bed?

After the Pineapple Snack JonBenet would not need any ponytail if she simply headed down to the basement, never to return?

If it was PDI, as alleged by Steve Thomas, surely Patsy would pay more attention to the crime-scene details?

That Patsy is willing to lie and distance herself from the evidence is not proof that she knew what took place?

I think, on balance JonBenet had her snack, then dressed for bed, shortly after which, she was sexually assaulted, in her own bedroom, e.g. bloodstain on the pillow, bed unmade, and her bedtime gown later dumped in the wine-cellar?

I raised the possibility of the lower ponytail being staging, simply for completeness, since whilst I agree with your interpretation, i.e. Patsy made the usual bedtime hairstyle, there is the possibility that a prior staging incorporated the lower ponytail so to support a version of events that has JonBenet safely reaching her bed?

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Where exactly were the ponytails positioned? Is there a clear, definitive crime scene photo/drawing/verbal description/ showing the exact position? Anyone? TIA.
 
otg posted this autopsy picture with a fair warning. Read post #42.

Do not click on the following link unless you’ve read the above and are prepared to see the photo:

http://oi60.tinypic.com/124e8w7.jpg

I also have a video with an additional shot and a close up of the splinters, if interested, PM.

bettybaby wrote:
In checking the AR, the notes about the two ponytails indicate the upper ponytail was secured with a white cloth hair tie and a blue elastic band, with the lower ponytail secured by a blue elastic band. Use of the two elastic bands being the same color lead me to believe both of the ponytails were done by the same person at least in the same place.
 
otg posted this autopsy picture with a fair warning. Read post #42.

Do not click on the following link unless you’ve read the above and are prepared to see the photo:

http://oi60.tinypic.com/124e8w7.jpg

I also have a video with an additional shot and a close up of the splinters, if interested, PM.

bettybaby wrote:
In checking the AR, the notes about the two ponytails indicate the upper ponytail was secured with a white cloth hair tie and a blue elastic band, with the lower ponytail secured by a blue elastic band. Use of the two elastic bands being the same color lead me to believe both of the ponytails were done by the same person at least in the same place.

I think you are attributing the above quote by by mistake? :lol: I don't remember writing that!

Anyway, I'm still confused. Did PR deny putting in the 2nd ponytail?

And thanks for not posting AR pic directly :)
 
My apologies bettybaby. It was midwest mama

who wrote:
In checking the AR, the notes about the two ponytails indicate the upper ponytail was secured with a white cloth hair tie and a blue elastic band, with the lower ponytail secured by a blue elastic band. Use of the two elastic bands being the same color lead me to believe both of the ponytails were done by the same person at least in the same place.

IIRC, Patsy was asked by ST about bedtime hairstyles. PR stated she pulled JBs hair into one single ponytail in the back. I don't think she was asked how she styled her child's hair on the particular evening of the child's death.
 

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