People being detained and "exported" by ICE

[TootsieFootsie]

Good on Neil Young for speaking out.

 

[tarabull]

‘Deported, detained, imprisoned’: Quebec parents want school trip to U.S. cancelled | Globalnews.ca

The mother and some other parents argue the trip should be cancelled because the political climate in the U.S. makes it unsafe, and points to what has happened to some visitors.

globalnews.ca

 

[Lilibet]

To piggyback on this comment, I found this article in Forbes, and here's some quotes directly from Abrego Garcia's lawyer, from his court filings:

Abrego Garcia fled El Salvador at the age of 16 in 2011 after he faced threats from gang members there attempting to extort his parents and was granted protection from deportation in 2019 by a judge who determined he could be targeted by gangs if he returned, according to court filings.

Abrego Garcia lived in Maryland with his wife, a U.S. citizen, and their 5-year-old son, and worked as a full-time sheetmetal apprentice; he has no criminal record in the U.S. or El Salvador, his attorney, Simon Sandoval-Moshenberg, said in a court filing.

Here’s What To Know About Kilmar Abrego Garcia—Father Mistakenly Deported By ICE

The White House said Tuesday Abrego Garcia would not be returning to the U.S., despite an ICE official admitting to a judge a day earlier that his deportation to El Salvador’s notorious Terrorism Confinement Center was an “oversight.”

www.forbes.com

So his lawyer testified in court that he has no criminal record in either the US or El Salvador and it seems like he was being targeted and extorted by gangs in El Salvador prior to immigrating to the US (probably because he was refusing to join the gang)

Seems like the White House is the only one insisting that he's a gang member without any actual proof and is contradicting actual filed legal documents stating the opposite. Interesting that earlier today they were admitting the "error" but now they are doubling down.

And now he’s in prison in El Salvador where he could very well be targeted by the same gangs he was fleeing. And they have no way to bring him back here. Right. SMH

JMO

 

[TootsieFootsie]

‘Deported, detained, imprisoned’: Quebec parents want school trip to U.S. cancelled | Globalnews.ca

The mother and some other parents argue the trip should be cancelled because the political climate in the U.S. makes it unsafe, and points to what has happened to some visitors.

globalnews.ca

It's a worry. If it was me I wouldn't want to take the chance.

 

[SouthAussie]

This article says they have AI going through social media looking for posts.


"Hundreds of international students in the US are getting an email from the US Department of State (DOS) asking them
to self-deport owing to campus activism.

It is not just international students who physically participated in campus activism but also those who shared or liked ‘anti-national’ posts that are the target of these emails, said an immigration attorney.

This crackdown is based on social-media reviews being conducted by DOS.

According to immigration attorneys, the flurry of self-deportation emails that are being sent to international students stems from a March 25 internal directive dispatched by Rubio, directing mandatory social media reviews of existing
international students already in the US and new applicants."


This is a screenshot of the start of the email, but the email is quite long ....

Hundreds of international students wake up to an email asking them to self deport for campus activism - The Times of India

US News: The US Department of State has asked hundreds of international students, including Indians, to self-deport over alleged campus activism. Learn about the visa revocations and government policies here.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

 

[ChatteringBirds]

They are sending them email? Not even official letters. Email.

 

[SouthAussie]

"Former Costa Rican President and Nobel Prize winner Oscar Arias said on Tuesday that the U.S. had revoked his visa to enter the country, weeks after he criticized U.S. President Donald Trump on social media saying he was behaving like "a Roman emperor."

A self-declared pacifist, he won the 1987 Nobel Peace Prize for his role in brokering peace during the Central American conflicts of the 1980s.

"I received an email from the U.S. government informing me that they have suspended the visa I have in my passport. The communication was very terse, it does not give reasons. One could have conjectures," Arias told reporters outside his home, without elaborating on his suspicions. "

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/costa-rican-former-president-oscar-arias-says-us-revoked-his-visa-2025-04-01/

 

[TootsieFootsie]

What is that country where it's against the law to insult the king.

Is that what people want the US to be like ?

 

[SouthAussie]

Just a thought.

"Starting in 1934, it was illegal to criticize the Nazi government. Even telling a joke about Hitler was considered treachery. People in Nazi Germany could not say or write whatever they wanted."

Nazi Propaganda and Censorship

Nazi efforts to control forms of communication through censorship and propaganda included control of publications, art, theater, music, movies, and radio.

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

 

[Mo Thuairim]

What is that country where it's against the law to insult the king.

Is that what people want the US to be like ?

Thailand. Even though he's ripe for ridicule (like another world leader we know), you can't mock him under pretty strictly enforced lèse-majesté laws.

Vajiralongkorn | Thai King, Facts, Biography, & Reign | Britannica

Vajiralongkorn is the king of Thailand. He is the wealthiest sitting monarch in the world, the son of the immensely popular Bhumibol Adulyadej, and a controversial figure in Thailand because of his reputation for questionable conduct.

www.britannica.com

Throughout his years as crown prince, numerous other scandals and bizarre behavior were attributed to Vajiralongkorn. He was known for traveling in public wearing a small midriff-baring tank top. In 2009 he named his pet poodle Foo Foo an air chief marshal of Thailand. That same year, a video was leaked of Srirasmi, then princess of Thailand, feeding Foo Foo birthday cake while topless. These antics were a major source of concern for both King Bhumibol and the Thai public prior to Vajiralongkorn’s ascension to the throne.

 

[crussell821]

Most of the cases I've heard about of highly educated people who are being deported involve green-card holders who TBH weren't following rules about political speech and activism. They do not have complete freedom of speech the way citizens do.

My mother was a green card holder for 20+ years and this is news to me.

 

[SouthAussie]

Sounds as though the Universities are not sure how to help their international students.

The University of Washington (for example) has set up a page of updates and advice to try to help them, but they seem as disoriented about the visa cancellations as the affected students probably are.


The University leadership, faculty, staff and entire UW community are here to support our international scholar community. We are working with colleagues across the country to better understand the events taking place and will continue to post updates with any new information we receive. Please contact us with any questions you have.

Updates on J-1 student visa terminations - Academic Personnel & Faculty

This communication was sent to all UW-sponsored, active J-1 scholars on April 1, 2025. Dear J-1 scholars, We are aware of reports from other institutions that some F-1 and J-1 student visas have been canceled by the U.S. government and F-1 and J-1 immigration records are being terminated in the...

ap.washington.edu

 

[TootsieFootsie]

MSN

The Independent

Judge holds ICE agent in contempt after he detained suspect during a trial​

 

[Mo Thuairim]

Joe Rogan warns of Trump admin's "horrific" deportations​

Even Trump fanboy Joe Rogan is worried about how all these deportations are being carried out...

Joe Rogan, the podcaster MAGAworld can't ignore, warned his listeners about "people who are not criminals ... getting lassoed up and deported and sent to El Salvador prisons."

Why it matters: As the Trump administration "has rushed to carry out deportations as quickly as possible, making mistakes and raising concerns about due process along the way, the [right's] unified front in favor of President Trump's immigration purge is beginning to crack," the New York Times notes.

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/02/joe-rogan-trump-deportations-ice-el-salvador

Joe Rogan, Voices on the Right Raise Alarm Over Trump’s Immigration Moves

The cracks in support show how seriously some conservatives are taking the administration’s aggressive and at times slapdash tactics.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Anxala]

I often think of victims of crimes committed by illegal immigrants

Do you give the same amount of thought and concern to victims of crimes committed by legal Americans? I hope so.

Because I suspect that the crimes committed by the latter far far outweigh those of the former.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

MSN

The Independent

A man came to the US to donate a kidney to his brother. ICE showing up as his doorstep interrupted that plan​

A Venezuelan man came to the United States to donate a kidney to his brother in kidney failure, but ICE authorities detained him, putting the fate of both brothers in question.

José Alfredo Pacheco, 37, was diagnosed with end-stage kidney failure in December 2023, shortly after arriving in the Chicago area from Venezuela, seeking asylum. His older brother, José Gregorio González, 43, hoped to donate his kidney to save Pacheco’s life — but immigration authorities detained him, throwing their plans into disarray.

 

[MrsWatson]

My mother was a green card holder for 20+ years and this is news to me.

News to me, as well. My husband is a green card holder, although we've lived in the UK for these past ten years. (He's a Brit.) The only thing you are not allowed to do is vote, and you are expected to obey the law and support the democratic government. It says nothing about your right to free speech, nor does it say you must unilaterally support the president.

Your Responsibilities as a Permanent Resident
As a permanent resident, you are:

• Required to obey all laws of the United States and localities;
• Required to file your income tax returns and report your income to the U.S. Internal Revenue Service and state taxing authorities;
• Expected to support the democratic form of government (“support” does not include voting. Permanent residents cannot vote in federal, state, or local elections.); and
• Required to register with the Selective Service, if you are a male age 18 through 25.

Rights and Responsibilities of a Green Card Holder (Permanent Resident) | USCIS

Being a permanent resident means that you have new rights and responsibilities.Your Rights as a Permanent Residen

www.uscis.gov

 

[Lyanna]

Do you give the same amount of thought and concern to victims of crimes committed by legal Americans? I hope so.

Because I suspect that the crimes committed by the latter far far outweigh those of the former.

Even studies carried out in America prove this - this one's from Texas (from 2020)

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014704117

Moo
Ebm

 

[musicaljoke]

MSN

The Independent

Vietnamese dad came to U.S. at 5. He’s been held for a month by ICE after routine check-in​

Oh, I hate this! It so much reminds me of how people were rounded up by the nazis during the second world war. It is a great evil.

 

[Herat]

Oh, I hate this! It so much reminds me of how people were rounded up by the nazis during the second world war. It is a great evil.

It reminds me of how the Japanese were rounded up and sent to US internment camps in WWII. Althought not like Nazi Germany, these were also in harsh places with few natural resources.