Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #13

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  • #641
According to this article, VDS owned a coffee shop in Thailand from some point in 2008 or later until early this year when he sold it...which contradicts his confession in which he makes it sound as though he still owns it and has for 2.5 years.

"In the sleepy Bangkok suburb of Muang Ake, he attended Rangsit University in 2008 as a business major but dropped out and bought the Sawadee Cup cafe just off the campus, which served sandwiches and pizza....Van der Sloot may have been a charmer, but he apparently wasn't much of a businessman. So says the young Thai woman who, with her American boyfriend, bought the cafe from him early this year...'I looked at the documents and balance sheets he left. Many items just look wrong.'."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100613/ap_on_re_us/van_der_sloot_s_journey/print

Now I just stumbled across two You Tube videos showing this cafe and to my surprise (shock) they were posted by him, under one of his web aliases of 'AUAJORANBKK'. It appears he set up this cafe from scratch, so he must have had a some funds back then.

This led me to his You Tube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/AUAJORANBKK#p/u/1/sAsREwm8YoI

If you scroll down from the video, you can find out lots about him from his Profile. It says he last accessed this site 'two weeks ago'. I don't know how precise that is, but 2 wks. ago from today is May 31....the day after the murder, when he was on the run!!

There are also recent comments posted by others, some for and some against him.

Then if you look at his 'Favorites', many are music videos with titles like 'Fear', 'Killer', 'Money To Blow', 'Women Lie Men Lie'.

I have to tell you that just finding this website, created by him, was very eerie and somewhat chilling.
 
  • #642
I thought I read that the restaurant only lasted for a short time, nowhere near 2.5 years....I could be wrong.

I remember that too. Did you all see the video I put up of the shop, it was video of them getting ready to open it, then shots of what the interior was like once it was open, a few shots of the waitresses, and a shot of Joran with a bunch of other people? Now when I try to find it with google, its gone.
 
  • #643
Jean C on HLN saying that JVS can leave his cell, interact with the other prisoner,ugh, there is tv and a weight room................nice.........NOT:banghead:

also leaves his cell to eat.

That may not be as good as it sounds, since he's in this security unit with only 2 other prisoners....and one of them is a hitman...a paid assassin!!!
 
  • #644
I remember that too. Did you all see the video I put up of the shop, it was video of them getting ready to open it, then shots of what the interior was like once it was open, a few shots of the waitresses, and a shot of Joran with a bunch of other people? Now when I try to find it with google, its gone.

Wow...I just posted a link to that video!!
 
  • #645
According to this article, VDS owned a coffee shop in Thailand from some point in 2008 or later until early this year when he sold it...which contradicts his confession in which he makes it sound as though he still owns it and has for 2.5 years.

"In the sleepy Bangkok suburb of Muang Ake, he attended Rangsit University in 2008 as a business major but dropped out and bought the Sawadee Cup cafe just off the campus, which served sandwiches and pizza....Van der Sloot may have been a charmer, but he apparently wasn't much of a businessman. So says the young Thai woman who, with her American boyfriend, bought the cafe from him early this year...'I looked at the documents and balance sheets he left. Many items just look wrong.'."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100613/ap_on_re_us/van_der_sloot_s_journey/print

Now I just stumbled across two You Tube videos showing this cafe and to my surprise (shock) they were posted by him, under one of his web aliases of 'AUAJORANBKK'. It appears he set up this cafe from scratch, so he must have had a some funds back then.

This led me to his You Tube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/AUAJORANBKK#p/u/1/sAsREwm8YoI

If you scroll down from the video, you can find out lots about him from his Profile. It says he last accessed this site 'two weeks ago'. I don't know how precise that is, but 2 wks. ago from today is May 31....the day after the murder, when he was on the run!!

There are also recent comments posted by others, some for and some against him.

Then if you look at his 'Favorites', many are music videos with titles like 'Fear', 'Killer', 'Money To Blow', 'Women Lie Men Lie'.

I have to tell you that just finding this website, created by him, was very eerie and somewhat chilling.

:blowkiss: FLNY, you are just a wealth of information. THANK YOU!
 
  • #646
Actually looks like a nice coffee shop, wonder why he couldn't make a go of it????
 
  • #647
Looks as though he and his lawyer are parting company

Stephany Flores Family demands life sentence for Van der Sloot


<snip>Lawyer leaves case of Van der Sloot

The Dutchman's lawyer, Max Highness Navarro, told El Comercio that will leave the legal defense of the accused for murder.

'Relatives of Van der Sloot will come to Lima on Tuesday or Wednesday and sought a new lawyer. My family has had many problems and I'm away from this case, "he said.



It looks like Jorans house of cards is starting to fold!
 
  • #648
Movies:Breaking Bad, Entourage, Californication, CSI, Law and Order, Pulp Fiction, City of Ghosts.
 
  • #649
I rank that as one of the single best questions or suggestions regarding a motive in the Holloway case I have ever heard. Especially in light of what we know about Joran now, his obsession almost with money. I think he exhibited it then, its just that most of us didn't know him and didn't recognize it.

Thank you for the welcome, i.b.nora! Here's a possible scenario: At the club that night, Joran sees that Natalee still has money, slips her the date-rape drug in her drink, and later robs her, knowing that she won't remember anything about the event. He may or may not have attempted to rape her. She goes into convulsions from a misjudged overdose of the drug and dies. Or she may have resisted and he flew into a rage and beat her to death a la Stephanie. The ocean is a convenient disposal site for the body and sharks and other marine animals would dispose of the remains within a short time. I've watched crabs attack the bodies of large fish and bones would present no problem, assuming the sharks known to inhabit Aruba's coastal water left anything for the crabs.

Makes me wonder how many other young women he may have drugged, robbed and possibly raped before Natalee?
 
  • #650
http://www.youtube.com/user/AUAJORANBKK#p/u/1/sAsREwm8YoI

If you scroll down from the video, you can find out lots about him from his Profile. It says he last accessed this site 'two weeks ago'. I don't know how precise that is, but 2 wks. ago from today is May 31....the day after the murder, when he was on the run!!

There are also recent comments posted by others, some for and some against him.

Then if you look at his 'Favorites', many are music videos with titles like 'Fear', 'Killer', 'Money To Blow', 'Women Lie Men Lie'.

I have to tell you that just finding this website, created by him, was very eerie and somewhat chilling.[/QUOTE]

When you read Joran's self-profile it is interesting to see what animal he relates to: "If I would have to describe myself as an animal it would be a snake however I want to be a lion and one day I will be a lion."

Profile
Name:JoranChannel Views:1,378Total Upload Views:725Age:22Joined:February 24, 2010Last Sign In:2 weeks agoSubscribers:23Watever I feel like
About Me: Hi,
My name is Joran van der Sloot and I am a poker player and entrepreneur. I like to think big and outside of the box and I am as left as you can be when it comes to politics. If I would have to describe myself as an animal it would be a snake however I want to be a lion and one day I will be a lion. I like rap, hip hop, reggeaton, rub-a-bud as well as many other types of music but those are my favorite. I think their is a lesson to be learned in every path you decide to take in your life but one thing I am sure of is that you need to stand up for what you believe in and what you want to do and you will be successful in your life. I do not have a real job but am a professional poker player I have been playing poker since way before the poker boom and consider myself to have a huge advantage over most players. I also give poker lessons as well as advice about poker hands and strategy. If you wish to get help with your game you can contact me at [email protected]. Hometown:Aruba, NoordCountry:ArubaOccupation:I studied IBMS which is a business study as well as IB which is also business in Thailand for 2 years. I however do not have a job and play poker as a profession.Companies:Sawadee CupSchools:International School of Aruba, Rangsit University.Hobbies:Music, Soccer, Tennis, Poker, Television, Movies, Nightlife, Traveling and many more things but those are my passions.Movies:Breaking Bad, Entourage, Californication, CSI, Law and Order, Pulp Fiction, City of Ghosts.Music:Lil Wayne, Drake, and the rest of the Young Money Crew.
 
  • #651
A Grieving Family Speaks Out 'On the Record'
Only on 'On the Record': Greta has traveled to Peru to sit down with the family of Stephany Flores. Tune in tonight at 10 ET as the Flores family discusses their loved one's murder and their quest for justice against her confessed killer, Joran van der Sloot.


http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/
 
  • #652
Wow...I just posted a link to that video!!

Yeah, I scrolled up and saw it. Glad you posted it too, I was afraid it was lost.
What a nice shop he had. Did he do it himself, or was it a joint venture w/ others, I wonder? Such attention to detail, just doesn't "gel" with the Joran I have in my mind. Flowers, nice places to sit. Its amazing he didn't do well with that place. Maybe he's a bad businessman, or let his gambling addiction get in the way of running his business. He was really quite a chameleon, huh?
 
  • #653
welcome cottages! and thanx for the book info... heres a link to a chapter of the book for anyone who would like to read it :) good read too...


The Basic Myths About Criminals
Excerpted from Inside the Criminal Mind
By Stanton E. Samenow, Ph.D.


http://www.enotalone.com/article/4486.html

Very interesting. He cannot tell us why the criminals are the way they are, though. They are born that way, but why? A rhetorical question. It is very disturbing though.
 
  • #654
According to this article, VDS owned a coffee shop in Thailand from some point in 2008 or later until early this year when he sold it...which contradicts his confession in which he makes it sound as though he still owns it and has for 2.5 years.

"In the sleepy Bangkok suburb of Muang Ake, he attended Rangsit University in 2008 as a business major but dropped out and bought the Sawadee Cup cafe just off the campus, which served sandwiches and pizza....Van der Sloot may have been a charmer, but he apparently wasn't much of a businessman. So says the young Thai woman who, with her American boyfriend, bought the cafe from him early this year...'I looked at the documents and balance sheets he left. Many items just look wrong.'."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100613/ap_on_re_us/van_der_sloot_s_journey/print

Now I just stumbled across two You Tube videos showing this cafe and to my surprise (shock) they were posted by him, under one of his web aliases of 'AUAJORANBKK'. It appears he set up this cafe from scratch, so he must have had a some funds back then.

This led me to his You Tube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/AUAJORANBKK#p/u/1/sAsREwm8YoI

If you scroll down from the video, you can find out lots about him from his Profile. It says he last accessed this site 'two weeks ago'. I don't know how precise that is, but 2 wks. ago from today is May 31....the day after the murder, when he was on the run!!

There are also recent comments posted by others, some for and some against him.

Then if you look at his 'Favorites', many are music videos with titles like 'Fear', 'Killer', 'Money To Blow', 'Women Lie Men Lie'.

I have to tell you that just finding this website, created by him, was very eerie and somewhat chilling.

Thanks for posting the links.

He considers himself a professional poker player and gives lessons?

The part where he calls himself a snake, but wants to be a lion is interesting.
 
  • #655
If he's telling the truth, JVS says in his confession that he removed the pants after she was dead. It's my belief that he did it to stage an attempted rape (by someone else).

BINGO! Another alibi to go along with the police robbing him story.
 
  • #656
http://www.youtube.com/user/AUAJORANBKK#p/u/1/sAsREwm8YoI

<snipped for length>

My name is Joran van der Sloot and I am a poker player and entrepreneur. I like to think big and outside of the box and I am as left as you can be when it comes to politics. If I would have to describe myself as an animal it would be a snake however I want to be a lion and one day I will be a lion. I like rap, hip hop, reggeaton, rub-a-bud as well as many other types of music but those are my favorite. I think their is a lesson to be learned in every path you decide to take in your life but one thing I am sure of is that you need to stand up for what you believe in and what you want to do and you will be successful in your life. I do not have a real job but am a professional poker player I have been playing poker since way before the poker boom and consider myself to have a huge advantage over most players. I also give poker lessons as well as advice about poker hands and strategy. If you wish to get help with your game you can contact me at [email protected].

How profound. :angel:
 
  • #657
Here are a videos of when VDS was handed over to Peru from Chile on June 4: "Guarded Dutchman came to Arequipa, Peru and then he will continue trip to Lima by ground".

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XG0sBe85VM&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvv3niH1t-E&feature=related[/ame]
 
  • #658
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0J2glPZ7VU[/ame]
 
  • #659
Jean C on HLN saying that JVS can leave his cell, interact with the other prisoner,ugh, there is tv and a weight room................nice.........NOT:banghead:

also leaves his cell to eat.

Hi Nana.

HLN reports JVS is being fed the same meals as provided to the guards, not to risk the chance of deliberate poisoning.
 
  • #660
Movies:Breaking Bad, Entourage, Californication, CSI, Law and Order, Pulp Fiction, City of Ghosts.
About Me: Hi,
My name is Joran van der Sloot and I am a poker player and entrepreneur. I like to think big and outside of the box and I am as left as you can be when it comes to politics. If I would have to describe myself as an animal it would be a snake however I want to be a lion and one day I will be a lion. I like rap, hip hop, reggeaton, rub-a-bud as well as many other types of music but those are my favorite. I think their is a lesson to be learned in every path you decide to take in your life but one thing I am sure of is that you need to stand up for what you believe in and what you want to do and you will be successful in your life. I do not have a real job but am a professional poker player I have been playing poker since way before the poker boom and consider myself to have a huge advantage over most players. I also give poker lessons as well as advice about poker hands and strategy. If you wish to get help with your game you can contact me at [email protected]
http://www.youtube.com/user/AUAJORANBKK#p/u/1/sAsREwm8YoI
 
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