Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #16

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  • #141
Comedy Break:

I was looking through some JVS youtubes and came across one that made me chuckle.

WARNING. MAY NOT BE SUITABLE FOR WORK. STRONG LANGUAGE.


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_PCBebO0GA[/ame]
 
  • #142
At the beginning of the video above when you see JVDS standing at the table. Look to his right hand side, the man standing next to him is his father. IIRC.

I'll look in the tape further for his Mother.
 
  • #143
I can't tell who "mommy" and "daddy" are in this video. Can anyone else shed some light? I must say, I find it shocking and most certainly in keeping with scenarios that this monster remained consistently UN-accountable for...

Also...I am deeply disturbed every time I see a picture/video of this individual. I can't exactly say why but something about him bothers me and frightens me very much.

MOO

Daddy is sitting on Joran's right. Mommy (older blond) is sitting on De Vries right. Devries is the wine tossing vic.
 
  • #144
I can't tell who "mommy" and "daddy" are in this video. Can anyone else shed some light? I must say, I find it shocking and most certainly in keeping with scenarios that this monster remained consistently UN-accountable for...

Also...I am deeply disturbed every time I see a picture/video of this individual. I can't exactly say why but something about him bothers me and frightens me very much.

MOO

Mommy has blonde hair and is wearing a gray sweater; she is seated next to Peter DeV. Daddy is wearing glasses and a blue shirt and is seated next to Joran.

I am also disturbed by this guy; I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. I think it's his eyes; he has no soul.
 
  • #145
I can't tell who "mommy" and "daddy" are in this video. Can anyone else shed some light? I must say, I find it shocking and most certainly in keeping with scenarios that this monster remained consistently UN-accountable for...

Also...I am deeply disturbed every time I see a picture/video of this individual. I can't exactly say why but something about him bothers me and frightens me very much.

MOO

Anita is immediately to Peter de Vries right and Paulus is on Joran's right.
 
  • #146
The wine throwing incident. There is a middle aged woman we see sitting at the table but her back is to the camera shooting the discussion at the table. I never really do see her turn around so I can't be one hundred percent certain but I think that is probably his Mother Anita.
 
  • #147
At 1:16 in the video, Paulus is standing to the right of Joran, and Anita has just gotten up from her seat in the front, with her side to the camera. I don't think Anita actually saw the wine being thrown. Not sure, what Paulus saw.
 
  • #148
Opps sorry you all are all over it :). I'm back to catch up on these threads, we are settled into our new home. Any breaking news that absolutely can't wait to go back and read about JVDS in the past 3 or so days? Many thanks!
 
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At 1:16 in the video, Paulus is standing to the right of Joran, and Anita has just gotten up from her seat in the front, with her side to the camera. I don't think Anita actually saw the wine being thrown. Not sure, what Paulus saw.

Yes, it sure looks like Anita was looking down or away, and completely missed the toss. And the video ends, but I recall in the most extensive write-up, maybe it was De Vries' own site, that he said Anita when she figured out waht happened gave him a talking to, until finally (it took a while) Joran apologized to De Vries.

But we see the younger blond first giving a talking to Anita on how she raised that "kid".

So who knows if Anita wouldn't have gotten Joran to apologize, if the other lady didn't first dig into her?

But Daddy never said a word to his son. ALmost looks like a smirk on him?
 
  • #151
There were literally thousands of pictures taken of him during this time. Clearly these two photos were taken at or very nearly the same time. At least it's clear to me. Maybe it appears that one picture looks as if one of his hands is more swollen than the other is due to the slightly different angle or the effects from it being enlarged.

I don't think it needs to be turned into some sort of conspiracy theory or to assume it's been photoshopped.

The reason the swollen knuckles was brought up earlier in the first place is because some suggested that he didn't have any visible signs of a struggle. And, more recently, because some are wondering if he was physically coerced into giving his confession.

Thanks Suzihawk I posted the picture. It was NOT photoshopped. It was cropped from one of the pictures taken at the same time as the one you posted. I would post the entire pic but I'm at the beach and the picture is on my desktop at home. Not sure why this is being made into a big deal.
 
  • #152
Opps sorry you all are all over it :). I'm back to catch up on these threads, we are settled into our new home. Any breaking news that absolutely can't wait to go back and read about JVDS in the past 3 or so days? Many thanks!
If your TV is set up, you will want to watch 20/20 tonight, for an interview with a former girlfriend of Joran. Also I think John Quiones visits the Castro Castro Prison.

Jean Cazares visited Castro Castro Prison yesterday and there are video reports of that to be found all the CNN places.

Joran visits the judge on Monday.
 
  • #153
Comedy Break:

I was looking through some JVS youtubes and came across one that made me chuckle.

WARNING. MAY NOT BE SUITABLE FOR WORK. STRONG LANGUAGE.

Respectfully snipped and coming out of lurk mode to personally say thanks. I'm still laughing. :floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

While I'm here, you folks have done a great job on these 10 threads. I've not had time to read every single post, but KUDOS everyone!
 
  • #154
What's with all of the orange shirts/blouses? Joran, NG yesterday, now JC ~ even Patty G's hunka-hunka son is wearing an orange tee in his picture!

I think Jean C wanted to stand out, she has nerves of steel to go to that prison. Even though she was surrounded by guards, it still takes a lot of nerves.
 
  • #155
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I can't tell who "mommy" and "daddy" are in this video. Can anyone else shed some light? I must say, I find it shocking and most certainly in keeping with scenarios that this monster remained consistently UN-accountable for...

Also...I am deeply disturbed every time I see a picture/video of this individual. I can't exactly say why but something about him bothers me and frightens me very much.

MOO

His father is sitting to his right. His mother is sitting to the right of the reporter who had the wine tossed at him.
 
  • #156
Here it is with English subtitles....notice how neither of his parents look at or say anything to him about the incident...just kind of ignore it completely...very telling of his upbringing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyZEM7ECohs

Joran couldn't help himself???? was his reply as to why he did it?

Well this truly shows that he can't control himself at all. Just answering
questions about the Holloway case caused him to loose it.

I can absolutely see how enraged be became with Stephany even if she
did ask about Natalee and the email (if that was true).

This filth has a very short fuse which ignites if he doesn't like what he hears or is asked of him.

He has no control at all and now he's hooked, line and sinker into Peru's
prison system.

I'd like to see his short fuse ignite with one of those inmates and see what
they do to him.....

What goes around, comes around.
 
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On thing is that the wine tossing does indicate Joran is more right handed than left-handed. Unless, some people use each hand for different purposes...
 
  • #159
Yes, it sure looks like Anita was looking down or away, and completely missed the toss. And the video ends, but I recall in the most extensive write-up, maybe it was De Vries' own site, that he said Anita when she figured out waht happened gave him a talking to, until finally (it took a while) Joran apologized to De Vries.

But we see the younger blond first giving a talking to Anita on how she raised that "kid".

So who knows if Anita wouldn't have gotten Joran to apologize, if the other lady didn't first dig into her?

But Daddy never said a word to his son. ALmost looks like a smirk on him?[/QUOTE]

Standing next to someone as their face is being splashed would get my attention -- I think she was playing the ''duh'' role and I sure noted that smirk tooo -----grrrrrrrrr
 
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