Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #2

[suzihawk]

I haven't heard about any video footage, just reports from hotel staff about seeing Joran and Stephany enter the room and then Joran leave later in the morning. I sure HOPE the hotel has video!

The way I understand it... there is video footage of both of them entering the hotel and footage of just him leaving the hotel - as well as a couple of eyewitnesses (tourist(s) and hotel personnel). I'm guessing that they have a surveillance camera at the front door or in the lobby. I doubt they would have cameras specific to his room. It seems to be a rather low budget hotel or hostel.

 

[justus4all]

Do supermarkets have vending machines for their coffee??? Or a breakfast bar..at that time in the morning??? thanks

 

[essies]

I hope Interpol takes a look at his travels the past 5 years, and any missing or murdered young women in the same locales. Scary to think he could be a Ted Bundy on an international scale.

Scary to think-but Natalee may not have been his first murder either!:furious:

 

[md89]

His passport:

Passport

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Where are you guys getting this report of him getting his 2 cups of coffee "to go?" When I first saw mention of the 2 cups of coffee they made it sound like he went to a coffee shop and drank his coffees there.

When I read about the coffee, I thought it was another poster who was making up a scenario about what Joran might say - in that, he will think of something and not tell the truth.

Is it true that two cups of coffee were found in the room? I haven't heard that reported - is this a rumor that began innocently?

 

[impatientredhead]

I say, let him rot in prison in Peru. IMO Her remains can not be recovered...and really...what difference does it make if her bones are recovered, it won't change anything.

The only thing that would shock me in this case and I would then agree to let him serve time in Aruba is if Natalee is produced alive, held as a sex slave somewhere the last five years. If he could produce a living breathing Natalee...I'll cut him some slack.

Natalee's parents might feel differently about her bones being returned to them for burial, but I don't see him getting any deal from Peru. It is really of no real benefit to them and could only lead to embarrassment if Aruba puts him in some luxury style lockup or releases him early for some reason. I just don't see the upside of that deal for Peru.

 

[scandi]

I am just speechless....tell me I don't see what I believe I do on that face of his...please? Is that a smirk or do I need my eyes checked?

Hi Shutterfly, I think he had a good scare tho when these guys apprehended him. Looks like it likely scared the p**s out of him !!!

 

[hollyblue]

Where are you guys getting this report of him getting his 2 cups of coffee "to go?" When I first saw mention of the 2 cups of coffee they made it sound like he went to a coffee shop and drank his coffees there.

Here is first post re: coffee

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5244186&highlight=coffee#post5244186

 

[lauriej]

BBM ~ I'm confused about the hotel. I thought I read that he was staying at a hostile type hotel that runs about US$30. a night. If so, that would account for why there was no daily maid service. Those type of places change out the room once or twice a week. I read he checked in on May 13 or 14, long enough ago to know the routine.

Did the murder take place at this same hotel - the one he'd been staying at all along?

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_162-10003646-14.html?tag=page

View of the hotel where 21-year-old Stephany Flores was found dead in Lima on June 2, 2010.

 

[Ghostface]

Scary to think-but Natalee may not have been his first murder either!:furious:

I don't think so. He was a kid at the time, living with his parents, going to school and hooked on Bangbus.com
Aruba is very small, I think he flipped either at Natalees death, or (if he didn't do it himself) flipped because of the aftermath the past 5 years. Obviously something went very wrong in Thailand too.

 

[passionflower]

His passport:

Passport

WOW just WOW!!!
For a young man accused of murder 5 years ag, he sure ran around all over the world!!!:banghead:

 

[Linda7NJ]

I would think that in the mind of a killer he would be aware of every step he makes. The 2 cups of coffee trick was to make the hotel staff think that everything was OK, and that he was just going away for a day while his guest used the room.

I disagree. He's certainly unorganized and not very savvy. He's a murderer, maybe even a serial killer with even more dead women in his past........ But he surely isn't slick or diabolical the way he goes about it.

If daddy didn't clean up after him last time..he would have been convicted.

If he murdered other women, say in ....Thailand, he could have easily and simply walked away. Natalee's disappearance and the huge media coverage of it was something that would never happen in Thailand...or Columbia for that matter if a local, common and poor woman was the victim.

If this woman's father wasn't so connected, he would have gotten away with it this time too. IMO

 

[STEADFAST]

I don't think so. He was a kid at the time, living with his parents, going to school and hooked on Bangbus.com
Aruba is very small, I think he flipped either at Natalees death, or (if he didn't do it himself) flipped because of the aftermath the past 5 years. Obviously something went very wrong in Thailand too.

Even before Natalee disappeared, Joran was seeing a therapist for anger issues.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

From this article at this website:
http://www.trome.com/tonline/Html/2010-06-02/ontractualidad1092456.html

"A las 8 de la mañana, el sujeto salió del hotel y compró dos tazas de café en un supermercado de la zona. Retornó al cuarto y a las 8:40 se retiró con una mochila y una maleta de mano. 'Ya regreso', le habría dicho a un empleado"

"At 8 am, the subject left the hotel and bought two cups of coffee at a local supermarket. He returned to the room at 8:40 and retired with a rucksack and hand luggage. 'I'll be back', reportedly told an employee."

Oh I get it. He was trying to make it look like two people were already up in the room, that is if he came back down immediately without 'his' coffee.

 

[Ghostface]

Oh I get it. He was trying to make it look like two people were already up in the room, that is if he came back down immediately without 'his' coffee.

That's what I'm saying indeed.

 

[lonetraveler]

I have a question: It appears that the head of the judicial system in Chile will make a decision either to deport Joran or extradite him back to Peru. Do any of you "legal eagles" know what could happen if he is deported instead of extradicted? And where would Joran be sent if deported? I have a concern about the two choices instead of just one choice (sending his butt back to Peru is my favorite).

 

[suzihawk]

CNN just reported that an Alabama attorney has filed extortion charges against Joran claiming he requested money in exchange for telling where Natalee Holloway's remains are.

 

[passionflower]

I'm so interested in how the laws and court system will be in Peru..........
will this be quick? speedy? last forever type of trial?

 

[epiphany]

Wow, Google translation can be very interesting and confusing. It seems gender is often mis-translated ie., he is used instead of she, etc. Am I interpreting this correctly that $5,000 was stolen that she had won in the poker game? :waitasec:

Yes, that's my interpretation also - 5,000. dollars that SR had won playing cards.

 

[Solomisskitty]

CNN just reported that an Alabama attorney has filed extortion charges against Joran claiming he requested money in exchange for telling where Natalee Hollooway's remains are.

Now that is desperate!