Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #8

[Mohabi]

http://elcomercio.pe/player/491307

This video is in Spanish but shows a girl on the floor of Room 309 and she's wearing long black pants and a black shirt. Is this a re-enactment or is this a crime scene and the red panty report is faulty? I'm a bit confused here. Maybe a Spanish-speaker can tell us if this is Stephany or not. It occurs at the 25 second mark.

Please go look for the translation in the Translation thread.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I find that hard to believe. Why would she take off her pants in a hotel room of the guy she barely knew if she had no intent on having a sexual encounter?
Especially on her period.

Maybe not take them off, but could she have taken them down to pee? Then they got pulled off in some sort of ensuing struggle that began with her sitting on the toilet?

Of course that would not explain her panties being intact on her body.

Just throwing out ideas.

 

[karma-girl]

Make me wonder if JVDS is perhaps bi-sexual and that is why he has so much hatred and disrespect for women.

The desciption of of the alternative lifestyle friendly is for gays/lesbians. And HE was the one who rented the room.

hMMMMMM?

Alot of hotels/motels state this on their website to attract more ppl...once again it's all about the money.


ETA- good possibility that he is bi...I saw a pic of him on a dance floor biting a guys crotch, lol!

 

[krt]

Make me wonder if JVDS is perhaps bi-sexual and that is why he has so much hatred and disrespect for women.

The desciption of of the alternative lifestyle friendly is for gays/lesbians. And HE was the one who rented the room.

hMMMMMM?

EXCELLENT thought! Never even crossed my mind.................(and I have a sick mind) lol:dance:

 

[TravelingBug]

Here are two articles about the missing Colombia girls. One needs to be translated.


http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/491661...lombia-durante-estadia-van-der-sloot-ese-pais

I did a translation for you in the translation thread - [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5266896&postcount=10"]here's the direct link to that post[/ame] (I hope!)

 

[krt]

Alot of hotels/motels state this on their website to attract more ppl...once again it's all about the money.


ETA- good possibility that he is bi...I saw a pic of him on a dance floor biting a guys crotch, lol!

There's a nice pic in my mind to have before going to bed! NOT!

 

[suzihawk]

Like some other killers, I bet he liked to relive everything... that's why I think that killing her on the same date as NH wasn't a coincidence.:twocents:

See... that's something I'm having trouble getting past. Seriously, what are the chances of it occurring on the exact-same-day of Natalee's 'disappearance'?! IF it's just coincidence, the boy has some serious bad luck.

 

[Melanie]

Per the fellow gambler (can't recall his name) Joran stated that he was having difficulty meeting women in Peru. The first woman that he gets to his room - by whatever means - is on her period and self professed gay. Can you imagine what a loser he must have felt like?! That humiliation could have just turned to murderous rage.

This is what I don't understand.

• - she's gay (per reports). Why would she go to a hotel room with any man -- especially a stranger
  - she's on her period? Why is she going back to a strangers hotel room? I was young once, and the ONLY reason I was ever asked back to a hotel room was to make out/have sex. Trust me, it only happened a few times, but that was a few times too many
  - they're going back to celebrate her winnings? How does one celebrate? Champagne, some nice food? They could have done this in a restaurant

This all leads me to s-e-x. They both would have known that's the reason for going back to his room. Does she tell him at one point that she's gay and on her period? I don't understand why she would even leave the casino with him.

We all make choices - some good, some bad --- but if you can help me understand this, it would be most appreciated.

Mel

 

[sunsetbeach]

JMO but I think SF was dead before Joran went to get the coffee. I can't see why any young girl would sit in a motel for 45 mins waiting for a man she hardly knew to bring her a cup of coffee and snoop on his computer only to find out he "may" be a murderer. He was never convicted that's why I say "may" but I'm certain he killed NH.
Anyway I just think upon finding that info out she would have ran from that room and not sat there for Joran to bring her a cuppa coffee. KWIM?

I bet that coffee run video (if it's ever released) will show him in that red striped polo shirt.

 

[nums24]

Here is a Bing translated link to a Dutch news article:

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/.../2265466/in-colombia-onderzoek-van-sloot.html

 

[MaraSleuth]

Alot of hotels/motels state this on their website to attract more ppl...once again it's all about the money.


ETA- good possibility that he is bi...I saw a pic of him on a dance floor biting a guys crotch, lol!

huh? I'm lost.

 

[KR2tonenow]

Here is a Bing translated link to a Dutch news article:

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/.../2265466/in-colombia-onderzoek-van-sloot.html

This is very helpful, what a great link!

 

[Nancy2441]

This is what I don't understand.

• - she's gay (per reports). Why would she go to a hotel room with any man -- especially a stranger
  - she's on her period? Why is she going back to a strangers hotel room? I was young once, and the ONLY reason I was ever asked back to a hotel room was to make out/have sex. Trust me, it only happened a few times, but that was a few times too many
  - they're going back to celebrate her winnings? How does one celebrate? Champagne, some nice food? They could have done this in a restaurant

This all leads me to s-e-x. They both would have known that's the reason for going back to his room. Does she tell him at one point that she's gay and on her period? I don't understand why she would even leave the casino with him.

We all make choices - some good, some bad --- but if you can help me understand this, it would be most appreciated.

Mel

I think maybe was used to hanging out with guys (as friends) who knew that her interest was in women not them. And so she felt safe with men. She might have even told Joran she was gay. And Joran might have acted all cool with that, when he definitely had other plans. That's my take on it, anyway.

 

[jjenny]

I think maybe was used to hanging out with guys (as friends) who knew that her interest was in women not them. And so she felt safe with men. She might have even told Joran she was gay. And Joran might have acted all cool with that, when he definitely had other plans. That's my take on it, anyway.

I think she had like 4 brothers so possibly she was used to hanging out with men as friends/relatives and it lured her into a false sense of security.

 

[KR2tonenow]

It has been stated many times that SF was not raped. JVDS killed her in a rage.

 

[SoCalSleuth]

I put the translation request in the translation thread here.

One of us will translate it for you shortly and put it there so it doesn't get buried again the thread - then anyone who'd like it can link it and refer to it. Unless someone beats me to it, I'll get it done in a few minutes.

Traveling Bug, you are the most awesome websleuth member!

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

It has been stated many times that SF was not raped. JVDS killed her in a rage.

I think most here understand that is what the current facts represent. But, respectfully, not all who have experienced a murder attempt are dead, either.

 

[Melanie]

huh? I'm lost.

If you look at the hotel description for the Hotel Tac in Lima Peru it states:

Airport transportation‎‎, Bar/lounge on site‎‎, Complimentary breakfast‎‎, Cable TV‎‎, Car rental‎‎, City transportation‎‎, Concierge‎‎, Multi-lingual staff‎‎, Non-smoking rooms available‎‎, Safe in room‎‎, Self parking available‎‎, Smoking rooms available‎‎, Valet parking‎‎, 24-hour security‎‎, Parking garage‎‎, Interior room entrance‎‎, Exterior room entrance‎‎, Wake up service‎‎, Alternative lifestyle friendly‎‎

BBM = gay lifestyle friendly.

This also may have been discussed - but what's with the Interior AND exterior room entrance. He was on the 3rd floor. I wonder if this pertains only to first floor rooms.

 

[Dion]

I see that the hotel where he was staying, offers a complimentary breakfast. Why would he make a point of going out of the hotel to get 2 coffees if not to establish a timeline for Stephany's murder.

Why would someone who walks ahead of Stephany, doesn't even hold the door to his room open for her - do her the favour of providing coffee for breakfast. It strikes me that his usual method of operation, after getting whatever it was he was after (sex, money etc) would be just to kick the person out. That is if they were lucky enough to escape unscathed.

After spending a few hours with him, it would have been apparent that he was no gentleman, and if he did leave the room, Stephany, if not drugged (or deceased) would have got out of there as soon as possible, not taken the time, to do a search on his (probably password protected) laptop. She could do her search after she had left there. In any case, I don't think he would not have left someone he had just met, in his room with all his belongings (money, passport, laptop etc).

I think Stephany was probably drugged shortly after she entered the room, and if by any chance the laptop shows that a search was made on him, then the sick ****** did it himself, and possibly showed her who he really was, when she was in no state to leave the room.

This guy should never ever get out of prison, as long as he lives. He is a cold blooded serial killer and that won't change.

 

[karen7868]

If you look at the hotel description for the Hotel Tac in Lima Peru it states:

Airport transportation‎‎, Bar/lounge on site‎‎, Complimentary breakfast‎‎, Cable TV‎‎, Car rental‎‎, City transportation‎‎, Concierge‎‎, Multi-lingual staff‎‎, Non-smoking rooms available‎‎, Safe in room‎‎, Self parking available‎‎, Smoking rooms available‎‎, Valet parking‎‎, 24-hour security‎‎, Parking garage‎‎, Interior room entrance‎‎, Exterior room entrance‎‎, Wake up service‎‎, Alternative lifestyle friendly‎‎

BBM = gay lifestyle friendly.

This also may have been discussed - but what's with the Interior AND exterior room entrance. He was on the 3rd floor. I wonder if this pertains only to first floor rooms.

BBM. If this hotel had Complinenary Breakfast available, then why did he have to go to a convenience store for coffee and bread???

Maybe to purchase hair dye, peroxide? Peroxide is also known to remove blood stains.

Just makes me wonder why he just didn't get the breakfast there?