GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #112

[Ursamajr]

Link ?
Tia.

"He was telling me with his face that he f*cking hated me"

 

[AmicusVeritas]

the highest Court in Idaho, the Supreme Court, has already held that their state laws dictate that "...victim impact evidence from the victim's non-immediate family and friends was inadmissible because non-victims presented the evidence".

This stemmed originally from an appeal of a case Taylor worked on. I believe she knows well that the Supreme Court has already ruled who is entitled (under the law) to give victim impact evidence and statements, and today I think we saw several statements given by what they would say are "non-victims".

Is that right? In my opinion they should've been able to speak, but this loophole, if you want to call it that, has helped get some defendants new trials or new sentencing. And if anyone will try to exploit such a loophole on an appeal, I could see it being him. And he certainly has decisions from the highest court that would help holster such a claim. JMOO.
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Can you share your source for the screenshot here?

 

[MTW2011]

BK's sentence was not impacted by victim statements as it was a plea deal made ahead of sentencing hearing. Perhaps that protects the case from violating this rule.

jmo

The sentencing was not (not argued to be) affected by the victim impact statements in the Supreme Court case I cited either. So I think that only helps BK should he choose to appeal in the future.

 

[Fargo]

I hope they play Alivea’s statement on loop on his drive to the prison

I don't believe Kohberger is like other people, who might feel belittled and emasculated by Alivea's remarks. It's likely he was intent and aroused by the passion with which she spoke to him. Such a vibrant, intense, articulate and passionate woman has likely never spoken to him in his entire life.

I very much think he liked her attention.

 

[Rolypolyoly]

Steve REALLY made him feel uncomfortable!!!!!

Im catching up on the thread after watching the livestream, and getting to your post knowing that Alivea is up next is like waiting for the reaction when someone is about to get to the good part in a show you've already seen, I read it and im like, "Wait for it!"

She was EPIC!

 

[arielilane]

@MelissaKXLY4


Today I set myself free from the WILD Facebook group I joined to keep an eye on things related to this case

Latah Co Prosecutor is giving a news conference right now, reminding everyone: this was not a plea bargain. He pleaded guilty as charged, straight up.

I remember the first press conference after Kohberger's arrest when he reminded people this wasn't the end, but was the beginning of a long process.

 

[Kudzuu]

I want to know that too!!

Not taking up for her but face lifts often leave the person looking mildly surprised. She should have tried to frown.

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1948086252542292035

 

[twall]

Sigh. I hope we don't see Judge Hippler's comments about everyone who spoke today "designated as victims in our legal system" on an appeal someday.

I believe they are victims, but this issue has been brought all the way up to the Idaho Supreme Court and they have said that the law around victim impact statements applies to "immediate family members". Taylor had a case remanded for new sentencing because non-immediate family members were allowed to speak before sentencing and the highest Court deemed that was going beyond what was prescribed in their state law. I worry that Judge Hippler's comment about everyone today being victims "in our legal system" could totally be exploited on an appeal and they can argue that it is clear that his statement shows a view that does not align with both state law and what Idaho's highest Court has said. ugh.

jmoo

I was wondering why some of the other victim's relatives gave impact statements on behalf of themselves when in Alivea G's recent interview with Brian Entin she stated only her and her parents would be giving them on behalf of their family even though others wanted to but could not because they are not considered victims due to ID statute. But Shanan Grey did present statements for other G family members, 3 of them IIRC.

 

[Megnut]

On our local news KTVB 7, the Goncalves son is speaking; heavily criticizing the prosecution. He is going through other cases of BT, citing how there have been plea deals and families have not got justice.

No link at this time

Pleading guilty, no appeals is justice. I hope he comes to see that.

Today dominated the felon.

JMO

 

[Rolypolyoly]

I kind of wish Alivea had gone last, that her total evisceration was the last statement he heard before the judge shut the door on the rest of his life.

 

[wendybtn]

I loved that BK flinched several times when Mr. Goncalves was speaking and the way Mr. Goncalves maintained himself. I know it had to be hard.

 

[justtrish]

A defense attorney in this situation is in a difficult position. It is her job to represent her client, right to the end of the case. I think she is handling it professionally and I applaud her for taking on death penalty cases and doing her job until the end. She is upholding the values of our Constitution and criminal justice system. She's no coward, IMO, she is a brave person to do this kind of work and withstand the hatred that has been targeted toward her for her representation of BK.

I can respect her job up to the point she wanted to present the surviving roommates as alternative suspects. This is where I have a hard time because defending a person is one thing, victimizing victims again to do that I can't respect that. I think people can defend someone and NOT seek to cause further harm to the innocent. No way she actually thinks either of the surviving roommates could have had anything to do with it.

 

[Megnut]

FWIW the judge's remarks were prepared, hence the sentence was not formed by the vicgim statements. They were allowed. He even allowed them to be addressed directly at the felon.

This judge is a gift to justice.

JMO

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1948088349572694182

 

[Teche]

Wow judge hippler is the best

He reminds me of the judge for Leticia Stauch.

 

[jepop]

Pleading guilty, no appeals is justice. I hope he comes to see that.

Today dominated the felon.

JMO

I wish they would quit attacking Bill Thomson

 

[AmicusVeritas]

FWIW the judge's remarks were prepared, hence the sentence was not formed by the vicgim statements. They were allowed. He even allowed them to be addressed directly at the felon.

This judge is a gift to justice.

JMO

Yes, and I'm still reading about it, so I don't have any links or sources, but what I'm gathering is that some can be allowed by the judge/court. I'd like to think this court/judge was certain that everything that happened today was permissible, so as not to open themselves up to "liability" in the case of a potential appeal.

 

[Megnut]

The hilt end of a Kbar is a brutal pummel.

I can't help to close my eyes tight against the image of those blows to her face, while the bloody knife might have been flinging blood in arcs across that room.

Vicious.

JMO

 

[AmicusVeritas]

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