GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #115

[cottonweaver]

One theme which crops up in the the WSU interviews is ' calculated ' and incidences where BK says stuff which he knows can get him into trouble ( discriminatory? they didn't specify) so he skirts the risk and covers that with caveats and qualification.

( I'll find the supp numbers if anybody needs them)

why mention it?
Because the ex CO Anthony Gangi who runs ' Tier Talk' says that he thinks that BK has read all the small print on sexual harassment and PREA law in prisons ( TT is on Ytube) and knows how to work the system - the rules. Gangi covered all the reasons - legit and otherwise - how inmates work their rights and talks about manipulation eg how to get moved from a unit you don't like.

Second, WSU witnesses, Cellebrites and even Howard Blum said BK had a list of notes wrt to how he planned to fight any WSU sexual harassment allegations. Plus, recall when he was first arrested and we saw state's list of items?


Also, @Ghostwheel raised the risk of civil suits yesterday

 

[girlhasnoname]

or... he was trying to flirt with her in his awful way because a) if he succeeded that would prove he is ultra-manly or some such nonsense or b) it was safe to be "rejected" and it would not be his fault because he is creepy, it was because she was gay. jmo

All of the above and throw in just for the heck of it to torment her in his own perverse little way.

 

[girlhasnoname]

I’m not sure he was ready for prison life. His handwritten complaint is in the article. His handwriting is atrocious.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/bryan-kohberger-sexual-assault-threats-prison/

Bryan Kohberger says inmates threatened to sexually assault him​

Editor’s Note: This story contains discussions of rape or sexual assault that may be disturbing. Reader discretion is advised. If you or someone you know has been sexually assaulted, you can find help and discreet resources on the National Sexual Assault Hotline website or by calling 1-800-656-4673.
(NewsNation) — Convicted quadruple murderer Bryan Kohberger has asked to be transferred from the solitary confinement section of an Idaho prison where he is housed after some inmates there allegedly threatened to sexually assault him.

Kohberger filed an initial complaint July 30 saying other inmates were flooding their cells on purpose while subjecting him to “minute-by-minute verbal threats/harassment,” according to documents obtained by NewsNation. In a follow-up communication Aug. 4, Kohberger claimed one inmate told him, “I’ll butt f— you,” with another allegedly saying, “The only a– we’ll be eating is Kohberger’s.”

Sounds like SOP in any prison across America for a newly incarcerated mass murderer. Sorry, not sorry Bry Bry.

After complaining about his food tray, you can be sure what he'll be sent now will be scary IMO.

 

[girlhasnoname]

One theme which crops up in the the WSU interviews is ' calculated ' and incidences where BK says stuff which he knows can get him into trouble ( discriminatory? they didn't specify) so he skirts the risk and covers that with caveats and qualification.

( I'll find the supp numbers if anybody needs them)

why mention it?
Because the ex CO Anthony Gangi who runs ' Tier Talk' says that he thinks that BK has read all the small print on sexual harassment and PREA law in prisons ( TT is on Ytube) and knows how to work the system - the rules. Gangi covered all the reasons - legit and otherwise - how inmates work their rights and talks about manipulation eg how to get moved from a unit you don't like.

Second, WSU witnesses, Cellebrites and even Howard Blum said BK had a list of notes wrt to how he planned to fight any WSU sexual harassment allegations. Plus, recall when he was first arrested and we saw state's list of items?


Also, @Ghostwheel raised the risk of civil suits yesterday

For sure this murderer is plotting away day and night IMO. He does things with purpose and an agenda. His wheels have been turning about gaming the system since the day he committed the crimes and then went into overdrive after his arrest.

I'd love to know what kind, if any, access he's had to legal information in general since his arrest? I'd bet he read up on it while he was home from WSU, pretty well knowing he was going to be arrested.

He is trying to make a case by documenting all of this, even though it's commonplace in most prisons across the country.

JMO

 

[Inthedetails]

For sure this murderer is plotting away day and night IMO. He does things with purpose and an agenda. His wheels have been turning about gaming the system since the day he committed the crimes and then went into overdrive after his arrest.

I'd love to know what kind, if any, access he's had to legal information in general since his arrest? I'd bet he read up on it while he was home from WSU, pretty well knowing he was going to be arrested.

He is trying to make a case by documenting all of this, even though it's commonplace in most prisons across the country.

JMO

Ugh. He might be "documenting" just like complaints were documented against him at WSU.


jmo

 

[Inthedetails]

JMO as an autistic person: I have to work to keep in mind that “rules” are not ironclad and sometimes leave room for interpretation. He was probably given some sort of rules or expectations for prisoner behavior and legal requirements for nutrition etc. Now he is fussing bc the others are “breaking the rules” and that could be causing confusion that his brain can’t reconcile.

This happens for me in environments like school. When I would see others getting a pass at breaking rules, I’d get confused then on which rules are actually set in stone? Who is allowed to bend them? and under what circumstances? Should I follow the rules? Even that one I don’t agree with? etc

Y'all may be happy to know it’s a very uncomfortable feeling like my brain is wrinkled from trying to work out how to behave and what to expect from the behavior of others. It may take him longer than other cons to get his bearings in this new environment, socially. Oh well.

JMO, experience & here is a link to source on autism + rules/ predictability

I hear ya (and come from a spicy ND family - I get it). But, it's also rather common knowledge that "prison rules" exist. He could follow those rules. Like, keep your head down, don't snitch, don't act like a priss to make yourself a target.

There are experts who can be hired to prepare new convicts who don't come from a background where they know prison life. I'm shocked, actually, that BK seems to be unprepared.

But, then again, as suggested upthread, he might be enjoying documentation in the hopes it will be useful to him. I don't think it will be useful, fwiw.

Maybe he'll collect the data of his complaints and produce an academic paper about it. (Joking...sorta.)

jmopinion

 

[minazoe]

Bryan is a Karen and he's going to drive everyone bat-ship crazy.

 

[CamilleBSP]

Bryan is a Karen and he's going to drive everyone bat-ship crazy.

Bryan is the second coming of Sarah Boone, this time in male form.

Ngl, I honestly hope he doesn't have a day of peace for the rest of his life. I don't want him to be actually harmed or anything, but just to have little grievances everywhere with everyone and everything. Just to always have something that's not quite right and that he feels he needs to complain to fix it. This is something that can eat you up little by little....

 

[QB2022]

Bryan is the second coming of Sarah Boone, this time in male form.

Ngl, I honestly hope he doesn't have a day of peace for the rest of his life. I don't want him to be actually harmed or anything, but just to have little grievances everywhere with everyone and everything. Just to always have something that's not quite right and that he feels he needs to complain to fix it. This is something that can eat you up little by little....

This is something my autistic child struggles with in school, knows the school rules blindfolded. Can she wrap her head around all the unwritten rules that come with schools, especially social ones? Not a chance. She has lots of people helping to teach her these unwritten rules explicitly but it is one of the hardest things we've had to tackle as she gets older.

If his brain works in a similar way then he is going to be in for an absolutely miserable time, forget any other issues that come with prison. I am thrilled for him. He's in prison, no one gives two hoots if he doesn't understand and his brain will likely be his own downfall.

 

[Diddian]

A WSU sophomore . There are too many redactions to work out which class she was taking but she appears to do extra student advice work too and the document says ' it was common for graduate students to meet with X and discuss their education and future plans.' ( BK had an office downstairs in the same building)


Check out para 10 ! looking up at her office window and hiding in bathroom
( and para 9 ' five times')



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wow - look at 13 too

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This is stalking behavior. The occasion when Bryan continuously stood behind her chair as she worked (i.e. stood where she could feel his presence but couldn't see what he was doing or looking at) and the fact that he stopped it when another advisor came into the room indicated that Bryan knew that what he was doing was over the line.

IMO, this woman is fortunate to be alive. She clearly occupied a big place in Bryan's predatory brain.

It makes me furious that more was not done by authorities at WSU to help this young woman - like assisting her in obtaining a restraining order against a man who was clearly stalking and attempting to physically intimidate her.

 

[whirrledpeas]

It must be public record, because several news outlets said the documents were released by

I alerted a mod to your question. I know that they are incredibly understaffed and overwhelmed today so I don't know how quickly they'll respond to you. Anytime you have a question for a mod, you can hit the report button at the bottom left of your post to ask them. HTH.

Thanks so much!

 

[stormymama]

After seeing more of BK's handwriting in these complaints, I'm convinced the little squiggly line under the C in his signature, that we analyzed for pages and pages, was just a squiggly line. moo

 

[Tricia]

The images I posted were removed because there was no source provided which is totally fine but I obtained them via a FOIA request. What’s the procedure for that here?

Whirrledpeas.
Could you please send me a screenshot of something that shows you have received docs from a FOA request? Since I don't know if you received a letter saying "Here are your FOIA requested documents" or what I just need to see something with the FOA request itself. I hope that makes sense. Please send it to [email protected]
By chance, on the back of the pictures, do they have anything stamped on them showing they came from the government?
Tricia
I'll also send you a direct message and email in case you don't see this post.
Tricia

 

[browneyes]

I hope a certain inmate is having a horrible day. He deserves hell on earth.

 

[Tealgrove]

I wonder how I, some lady sitting in my armchair and living a law-abiding life, know not to tattle-tail, make requests, and complain like a Karen in prison and he doesn't?!

He has zero resiliancy and zero awareness. Even as much as we've learned about him in recent days, it is still shocking that he complained about PRISON within a day.

I bet he complains again.

jmo

Right????

 

[Dotta]

He is trying to make a case by documenting all of this, even though it's commonplace in most prisons across the country.

JMO

He is on a mission!!!

I would advise not to underestimate this guy.

What really counts is what is officially on paper.

And the officials have to answer + sign personally.

JMO

 

[Diddian]

For sure this murderer is plotting away day and night IMO. He does things with purpose and an agenda. His wheels have been turning about gaming the system since the day he committed the crimes and then went into overdrive after his arrest.

I'd love to know what kind, if any, access he's had to legal information in general since his arrest? I'd bet he read up on it while he was home from WSU, pretty well knowing he was going to be arrested.

He is trying to make a case by documenting all of this, even though it's commonplace in most prisons across the country.

JMO

I say, give him lots of paper and a pencil. But no sharpener, because we've seen what he does with sharp things.

Then, a suggestion box that drops deposits into a circular file large enough to hold whatever he can write before the pencil tip goes dull.

 

[Arkay]

He is on a mission!!!

I would advise not to underestimate this guy.

JMO

I agree, he is certainly on a mission.

A mission requiring that he is made comfortable and cozy in every way.

Alas, too bad. He’s in prison with the worst of the worst. Not in nursery school with nap time and lullabies and snacks.

I am enjoying the schadenfreude.

JMO

 

[Dotta]

I agree, he is certainly on a mission.

A mission requiring that he is made comfortable and cozy in every way.

Alas, too bad. He’s in prison with the worst of the worst. Not in nursery school with nap time and lullabies and snacks.

I am enjoying the schadenfreude.

JMO

But cutting on the inmate's food & ignoring his complaints about it
is not OK in MO.

It might draw attention of all kinds of lawyers dealing with human rights.
Who would like a scandal?
Something like starving an inmate?
Was it in his sentence by Judge?
To cut his food?

JMO

Link with complaint about food

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article311775212.html

 

[mickey2942]

But cutting on the inmate's food & ignoring his complaints about it
is not OK in MO.

It might draw attention of all kinds of lawyers dealing with human rights.
Who would like a scandal?
Something like starving an inmate.
Was it in his sentence by Judge?
To cut his food?

JMO

He is entitled to vegan food. He is not entitled to choose his menu. Nor are any special accommodations going to be made, when BK is safely in his own cell, and other people say mean things to him. People may threaten him, but when he is safe in his own cell, nothing will be done, except tell other prisoners that they can not verbalize any threats to BK.

Then, the guard goes back to his work, and prisoners continue to say mean things. Nothing can be done.