GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

[whirrledpeas]

An additional 699 photos have been released on the ISP site here is the link to download, some are of BKs apartment.

Idaho State Police Public Portal - JustFOIA

The JustFOIA Public Portal for Idaho State Police

idahostatepolice.justfoia.com

Link to all released crime scene photos: Crime Scene Photos - Google Drive

Bodycam Video:

ISP Documents: ISP Documents - Google Drive

Moscow PD docs: Idaho 4 - Google Drive

Pullman PD Docs: Pullman Doc Dump 1 - Google Drive

 

[realanastasia]

Random thoughts:
I have quite a feeling of schadenfreude reading his professor’s handwritten comments/feedback on what I presume was meant to be his dissertation proposal. I imagine he would have been deeply aggrieved (and his fragile masculinity gravely wounded) by having a professor tell him to tone down his “flowery language”!

Also, the fact that he was apparently struggling to articulate a “gap” in the existing literature that his project would fill is, frankly, not shocking to me—could see him narcissistically thinking that his project was so unique and so important that he need not even bother to explain how it would build on previous scholarly work.

I also loooooove to see the books he was presumably forced to purchase for his WSU classes—a book about the sexual victimization of college women? I bet that was right up his alley (not).

 

[gremlin444]

I was a member of the Facebook group at that time. I remember someone posted another post made by PR, concerning a school board matter in Ohio. The thinking was, PR used that account to make the post by error, should have used their usual Facebook account. Also, Facebook admins would have location information as to the IP address of the PR account, I think. No need for law enforcement to lie to the public now about PR. IMO.

Not to mention the fact that the source for the icon pic for PR has been tracked down and no link to BK. It was just coincidence that it had a mild resemblance to him.

The picture was called "soldier" and was created by artist Yi Xu and was posted online in a collection of photorealistic 3d rendered art in 2013. Search for Yi Xu on this page:

Portraits Of The 21st Century: The Most Photorealistic 3D Renderings Of Human Beings | Blog

As I was a little boy, I liked to watch old pictures of my relatives at my grandparents' house. Scrolling all that dusty photo paper - there was something mystical and spiritual in that. Looking into the eyes of my ancestors was so surreal. I knew that they have lived decades ago, but I was...

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Other people started looking into the PR FB account once it started posting about the knife sheath and found where it had also posted to a FB page for a school board in Carmel, IN about funding. Of course, once the account was deleted, the PR posts on the Moscow Murder FB group (or whatever it was called) as well as the FB page for the Indiana school district board disappeared

 

[LadyL]

I was a member of the Facebook group at that time. I remember someone posted another post made by PR, concerning a school board matter in Ohio. The thinking was, PR used that account to make the post by error, should have used their usual Facebook account. Also, Facebook admins would have location information as to the IP address of the PR account, I think. No need for law enforcement to lie to the public now about PR. IMO.

so 'Papa Rodger' inadvertently used their real FB and were likely someone in Ohio??
o/t but people can use VPN's to hide their IP

 

[LadyL]

700 new photos, mostly of Kohberger’s apartment.

https://jfcool4attachments.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/attachments/JustFOIA-IdahoStatePolice-ID/54d8ae7d-24c5-4224-9e0e-394ea887649a/D22000030%20PHOTOS%20BATCH2%20%28RELEASED%2008-29-25%29.pdf?sv=2025-01-05&st=2025-08-29T21%3A19%3A16Z&se=2025-08-30T21%3A34%3A16Z&sr=b&sp=r&sig=FpFBFRoyb28UNqyELZgOJiPuL8r5tLGejbrdswE2pDE%3D

was that the murderer's iphone in picture #28?

 

[MassGuy]

was that the murderer's iphone in picture #28?

I have in my mind that he didn't have an iPhone. That batch of pictures is of cars at the crime scene, so it's probably an old phone owned by someone who lived in the house.

 

[LadyL]

I have in my mind that he didn't have an iPhone. That batch of pictures is of cars at the crime scene, so it's probably an old phone owned by someone who lived in the house.

yes I think I remember that now too
do you know what the black item is in photo #522 with the evidence marker #1 beside it?

ETA: never mind I see that it is a glove in the next picture

 

[gremlin444]

so 'Papa Rodger' inadvertently used their real FB and were likely someone in Ohio??
o/t but people can use VPN's to hide their IP

Oops, I meant Indiana.

I mean, has nothing to do with VPN. The posts were to an IN school page directly addressing personal issues they had regarding the school board. Nothing that BK would have been doing to throw off ppl off his scent.

Anyway, LE said they know who owned the acct, and that seems pretty definitive to me.

 

[Best of What's Around]

700 new photos, mostly of Kohberger’s apartment.

https://jfcool4attachments.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/attachments/JustFOIA-IdahoStatePolice-ID/54d8ae7d-24c5-4224-9e0e-394ea887649a/D22000030%20PHOTOS%20BATCH2%20%28RELEASED%2008-29-25%29.pdf?sv=2025-01-05&st=2025-08-29T21%3A19%3A16Z&se=2025-08-30T21%3A34%3A16Z&sr=b&sp=r&sig=FpFBFRoyb28UNqyELZgOJiPuL8r5tLGejbrdswE2pDE%3D

Initial thoughts after 5 minutes (1) the bland of the 70s era apartment puts me to sleep, (2) his OCD apparently does know some bounds, particularly when behind a cabinet door or drawer, and (3) his written grammar and academic prowess know quite a bit of bounds - sloppy, rote, unimpressive, pedestrian, (4) the birthday card somehow creeps me out a bit in hindsight to his recent secret deeds. All criminal and social issues aside, he was destined to be a legend in very few minds.

 

[gremlin444]

dbm

 

[cottonweaver]

All his books seem to have been rammed into a cupboard under the TV but when LE took them out to photograph them, here are some of the titles.
Some CJ books were still shrink-wrapped.

L-Right
Pete Earley ' Crazy,a father's search through America's mental health madness'
Rise of the Warrior Cop ( bookmarked) The Militarization of America's Police Forces
Fisher, Daigle & Cullen, Unsafe in the Ivory Tower- The sexual victimization of college women' ( this was a used book he must've bought, the receipt is pictured in the screenshot)

 

[cottonweaver]

Some of you might remember when I posted that the penny just dropped for me when I read the WSU witness statement where BK tells a grad student that he wants to ' work with' K Ramsland?

I wondered whether that would include him physically meeting convicts ( ' sexual burglars' as per his euphemism) because he'd already shown an interest in his reddit Q at De Sales.
Also, in the recent FOIA documents from Idaho prison he tells the panel that eventually he wants to mix with other inmates and do ' productive work'

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Going forward I hope no university or author is going to assist him in future research or in continuing a PhD!

 

[iamshadow21]

Some of you might remember when I posted that the penny just dropped for me when I read the WSU witness statement where BK tells a grad student that he wants to ' work with' K Ramsland?

I wondered whether that would include him physically meeting convicts ( ' sexual burglars' as per his euphemism) because he'd already shown an interest in his reddit Q at De Sales.
Also, in the recent FOIA documents from Idaho prison he tells the panel that eventually he wants to mix with other inmates and do ' productive work'

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Going forward I hope no university or author is going to assist him in future research or in continuing a PhD!

She will absolutely work with him if he's eager.

Her own interviews show she's eager to do so.

It will make money and get them both the publicity they're interested in. They'll both be happy.

Meanwhile, four young people are dead.

MOO

 

[Serononin]

As a PhD student... I feel better about my own writing after reading his

 

[cottonweaver]

She will absolutely work with him if he's eager.

Her own interviews show she's eager to do so.

It will make money and get them both the publicity they're interested in. They'll both be happy.

Meanwhile, four young people are dead.

MOO

I forgot to add to the post this question and it was too late to edit -

does anybody know whether inmates at Idaho Max Sec are directly allowed to correspond ( letter or email) with other convicts across the state or across the nation? Or would they need an intermediary to pass on correspondence?

I just loathe the idea that he went to WSU with the idea that he could communicate with some of his sick idols - as a research project - and now he might still have an opportunity. ( The kinds of people he was obsessively googling, in his search history. Also BTK etc )

 

[girlhasnoname]

I was a member of the Facebook group at that time. I remember someone posted another post made by PR, concerning a school board matter in Ohio. The thinking was, PR used that account to make the post by error, should have used their usual Facebook account. Also, Facebook admins would have location information as to the IP address of the PR account, I think. No need for law enforcement to lie to the public now about PR. IMO.

Good info. thanks @MeadowMuffin. I'm not on Fakebook and didn't spend a lot of time researching the PR info, but I appreciate your filling me in. I begrudgingly admit I was wrong here.

j/k about the begrudgingly part

 

[Megnut]

His social circle is a pinhead. Few phone contacts. Mother, Father, Sister... Hours on the phone with Mother...

His only birthday cards appear to be from Mother and Sister. I don't know the birth order but "Bryem" sounds like the sort of pet name that sticks, started when a toddler tries to say an older sibling's name.

No wonder Father was trying to find a friend for the felon. 1. The felon didn't have any. And 2. IMO his family was exhausted.

I can't imagine their horror, having had talked to him daily and ad nauseum, probably hoping to be a stabilizing force for him, to realize that all that time he was planning, preparing, practicing ...

Frightening how casually he is evil.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

What do we think of how he left his apartment? Did he plan to return? Was he in denial, didn't think they'd actually fire him? Was he expecting to return, still in the program, just happily reassigned OUT of TAing?

'Cause he's not getting his damage deposit back.

(I know, it's student housing, not a private rental, but still, that's not 'move out' ready.)

Freezer food will keep, much of his food looks to be shelf stable, but there's stuff in the fridge that wouldn't smell so good if he thought he was returning to it after Christmas.

Geez, he left it like he absconded in the dark of night.

I don't know why necessarily but I really expected it to be sparse but spotless. I never expected him to be SLOPPY. Maybe I should have.

I don't recall what date he left Pullman -- but the question remains for me -- was he or was he not intending to return?

(It appears that he was -- he left his pots and pans, his clothing, and his books behind. Father surely expected it was only a break -- boasting to the traffic cops about his successful son. Perhaps the felon continued to hold an inflated sense of himself, minimized the complaints against him and was confident he would prevail against the powers that be. Doubtful he thought he'd done anything wrong.)

Just what exactly was his plan?

He must have had one.

JMO

 

[girlhasnoname]

Wonder why the murderer had bear attack spray? Photos #509 #510

 

[Chloegirl]

What do we think of how he left his apartment? Did he plan to return? Was he in denial, didn't think they'd actually fire him? Was he expecting to return, still in the program, just happily reassigned OUT of TAing?

'Cause he's not getting his damage deposit back.

(I know, it's student housing, not a private rental, but still, that's not 'move out' ready.)

Freezer food will keep, much of his food looks to be shelf stable, but there's stuff in the fridge that wouldn't smell so good if he thought he was returning to it after Christmas.

Geez, he left it like he absconded in the dark of night.

I don't know why necessarily but I really expected it to be sparse but spotless. I never expected him to be SLOPPY. Maybe I should have.

I don't recall what date he left Pullman -- but the question remains for me -- was he or was he not intending to return?

(It appears that he was -- he left his pots and pans, his clothing, and his books behind. Father surely expected it was only a break -- boasting to the traffic cops about his successful son. Perhaps the felon continued to hold an inflated sense of himself, minimized the complaints against him and was confident he would prevail against the powers that be. Doubtful he thought he'd done anything wrong.)

Just what exactly was his plan?

He must have had one.

JMO

I think about it like this. Something shifted around the time his father flew out (12/12). They had to travel via car, and he did not want to be completely suspicious in front of him. My guess is he scrambled to figure out what would fit in the car and what he valued, if there was no return. They were back in Pennsylvania by 12/16.

Weirdly, it looks like he ran out of time. He might have ordinarily been neater. But his father said I am flying out at the first spot of trouble. I do not buy that there was a planned adventure home. I think the jig/gig was up. His parents knew he was getting tossed. They did not know the half of it. JMOO

One other thing, the amount of things that he purchased and purchased and purchased and purchased in like 4 months seems ridiculous and then have to practically run from the law. Equipment, computers, gas for driving in circles, excessive amounts of cleaners, hiking equipment, etc. I am sure he took loans and blew it all. Everything seems tangential.

Follow-up: I am reminded he stated that he was on topamax, and I am wondering about bipolar. This all seems very manic, if not compulsive.