GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

[Megnut]

I can imagine him monopolizing phone calls to Mother, Father, Sister alternating between flights of social fantasy (pool party with friends, hiking with friends, commiserating with professors) and chronologies of collected grievances. Everyone around him, stupid.

IMO if his parents knew he bottomed out, I don't think his dad would have boasted about his success to the highway traffic cops. It would have been a sore subject. Very sore.

The questions for me are not whether his parents knew (I think decidedly they did not) but whether HE knew. On that, I can't decide.

Did he know/expect/suspect that he was going to lose his funding (collapsing the whole enterprise), or ego driven, still think he could outsmart, out-talk what for sure for him was bogus disciplinary action?

Was the letter a surprise to him?

Was the mess he left behind deliberate? accidental? incidental? otherwise?

Was it for the Father's benefit? To give the appearance of a vacation vs a move-out?

And when he did get that notice, was it a surprise for him? Did he plan to fight it? Did he tell his parents? And what possible reason could he give them? Mother, Father, I suck at humaning.

Was he going to live rent free in their basement? Maybe pretending to be an eccentric writer, eating his fave granola and churning out flowery rhetoric?

Failure to launch, boomerang Betty, calculated murderer.

Thumbs up selfie but an utter disgrace.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

I hope every student who had the misfortune of studying under the felon has petitioned the university to re-evaluate any and all of their work. The felon was power-tripping. None of his grading should stand.

 JMO

 

[Diddian]

As a PhD student... I feel better about my own writing after reading his

He writes papers like he tries to talk himself out of traffic tickets. That instructor that wrote on his paper/quiz (paraphrasing): You have a good vocabulary but use too much verbiage.

And that one instructor who gave him an "80." That had to hurt for a guy who considers himself smarter than anyone else in the room. I'm guessing that instructor was female.

I have a theory about some TA's: they are reluctant to give someone else grades higher than they got.

 

[Teche]

DBM

 

[gremlin444]

Follow-up: I am reminded he stated that he was on topamax, and I am wondering about bipolar. This all seems very manic, if not compulsive.

Topamax is very commonly prescribed for migraines. I believe he mentioned it way back on the Tapatalk visual snow posts in terms of him taking it for migraines.

 

[Chloegirl]

Topamax is very commonly prescribed for migraines. I believe he mentioned it way back on the Tapatalk visual snow posts in terms of him taking it for migraines.

I have read about it, have friends on it for migraines, and know people who are bipolar who take it. I understand it to be for multiple issues. JMOO

Yet, I am merely considering aloud possible behaviors, motivations, actions, intentions, moods, etc. JMOO

 

[Sundog]

I do not buy that there was a planned adventure home. I think the jig/gig was up. His parents knew he was getting tossed. They did not know the half of it. JMOO

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I think the father had bought a round-trip ticket when he flew from Idaho or Washington to PA in the summer after he drove across the country when BK started his doctoral program at WSU. And I am sure the trip back at Christmas-time during winter break was planned. This is usually a month-long break for doctoral students, and usually a time when they go home to be with family for this long break. Doctoral students, unlike most undergrads, often will take lots of books, computer, etc. with them as they will be doing some work during the month-long break (reading, taking notes, maybe completing research papers, etc.). It is very common, and I think that I have only ever known married doctoral students with children who may not have travelled during the winter/Christmas break. Everything is closed on campus, residence halls, dining halls, etc. Some services will stay open for undergrad international students, and sometimes there are inter-term offerings for undergrads for part of the break. That's how it is on most campuses in the U.S. at that time of year.

ETA And the father would have used his other half of the ticket for his flight back to the West coast to then drive across the country with BK for the winter/Christmas break.

 

[Sillybilly]

and, this includes links to all images:

Post in thread 'MN- Minneapolis, mass shooting at church, multiple fatalities, possible explosive device found. Aug 2025'

Aug 27, 2025

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[gremlin444]

and, this includes links to all images:

Post in thread 'MN- Minneapolis, mass shooting at church, multiple fatalities, possible explosive device found. Aug 2025'

Aug 27, 2025

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If you post something as fact without links, your post will be removed. If you continue to do this, you may get a time-out.
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@Sillybilly What is the protocol in terms of referring to one photo in a photodump where the url is a download of all 700? Post the link to the whole dump and then refer to it by photo # within the dump? Is it ok to post the link to the whole dump and then a screenshot of the individual photo you are referring to since you don't have a direct link to just the one photo?

 

[Megnut]

I wish that the license plate would have been readable. To satisfy my own curiosity, I wasn't to know if he took evasive measures to disguise his vehicle, something given him the false sense he'd rendered it invisible
Why else would he drive directly to his target? He had to know about residential cameras. Honestly, it's like he tried to commit "the perfect crime" in 1964, before advances in DNA and security. And not only did he fail to account for those, he apparently completely forget that digital forensics are the new DNA.

Devastating deadly weapon but as criminals go he was neither careful nor smart.

JMO

 

[Sillybilly]

Is it ok to post the link to the whole dump and then a screenshot of the individual photo you are referring to since you don't have a direct link to just the one photo?

<rsbm>

Yes, that's fine .. as long as the image is found somewhere in that source link.

 

[detectivewannab]

I've been a long time BK-is-not-Pappa-Rodgers advocate not only because Reddit has the best account fingerprinting (duplicate account detection) tools on planet earth using a combination of methods that not even a VPN can avoid to prevent ban avoidance, IMO and MOO .

But also because the majority of things he said were incorrect. If you go through each of the 52 posts that people highlighted post BK's arrest as evidence that BK is Pappa Rodgers, only 18 were direct claims or seemingly rhetorical questions about the crime. The rest were just plain old creepy questions.

Out of those 18 claims about the crime:
- He was correct 22% of the time.
- He was only correct 16% of the time if you don't give him credit for his 11/30 post about the knife and sheath (something the media reported on 11/16 and people were speculating about a sheath even earlier).
- Most of the stuff was posting are inane things like "4 weeks in and no suspects. What is the motive?" or "What do we think is the height and weight of the killer?" things everyone was asking.

What was he right about?
11/30 - when commenting on a pictture of detctives combing the back of the house.... he said something akin to - the killer came from the back of the house and was covered in blood, there's likely evidence there. - Something hundreds of people were already speculating and of course they would be covered in blood.
11/30 - the knife sheat (see above)
12/5 - Other people in the house were alerted by the killers presence. This one is super duper weak. Since there were already rumors about a surviving victim hearing the entire thing and you'd imagine that a brutal crime like this wouldn't be silent.
12/20 - Speculated that the killer struggled with female relations on . Something people had long been speculating.
12/22 - The killer not being in the victims immediate circle on . A time where the inner circle had already volunteered their DNA and LE had loudly cleared a lot of people in their inner circle who were being harassed.

That's literally it. Things that many true crime sleuther were also speculating. But again, MOO.

What was he wrong about?
- wildly wrong about the local of Xana's body
- wildly wrong about the killer entering from an unlocked window
- wildly wrong about Ethan - mirroring the early rumors of him being in the hallway
- white car is a red herring
- white car isn't relevant (a great example of when he's right, which isn't often, he's credited, but when he's wrong...its him trying to throw off LE)
- said the killer was a construction worker or a short term visitor

The last one strikes me as a person who's watched too many episodes of the Forensic Files (no offense, to the real pappa rodger)

There are many many more incorrect claims that would likely bring that percentage even further down. But my memory is hazy and my research isn't accessible right now. Again, all MOO.

Pappa Rodgers is a what happens when the same mechanisms that power astrology are injected to the telephone game. The legend has far outgrown the actual online persona.

MOO

I was watching this case closely. The first time I heard about the knife sheath was from him. It was no where else.

 

[Tricia]

@Sillybilly What is the protocol in terms of referring to one photo in a photodump where the url is a download of all 700? Post the link to the whole dump and then refer to it by photo # within the dump? Is it ok to post the link to the whole dump and then a screenshot of the individual photo you are referring to since you don't have a direct link to just the one photo?

The only thing you can do, as of now, is post the link to the actual download and say the picture came from this download. If the poster posts a link from a download and the photo is found not to have been from the download, they will be liable for any legal action that may come of posting a picture that was not publicly available.

 

[PunishThenForgive]

I was watching this case closely. The first time I heard about the knife sheath was from him. It was no where else.

@detectivewannab:

Websleuther @Tealgrove speculated that the killer left behind a knife sheath three days after the murders, which took place in the early morning hours of November 13, 2022:

I wonder if the killer had a sheath for the knife? Could it have been unknowingly left behind in the struggle?

MOO

Quote of Tealgrove’s full post from November 16, 2022, in response to another post by @MassGuy:

Those knives are meant for this specific purpose, and are incredibly resilient. For that reason, I highly doubt it broke. It's not like something you'd find in a kitchen.

I just googled these knives and I came here to say that type of knife can do some serious damage.

Whoever this was, came prepared to kill. I don’t think this was random. There is a reason that these murders happened to these people.

Some may have been collateral damage while 1 was the primary target.

I wonder if the killer had a sheath for the knife? Could it have been unknowingly left behind in the struggle?

MOO

BBM

Link to the post in thread 'ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Died in Apparent Homicide, Moscow, 13 Nov 2022':

ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Died in Apparent Homicide, Moscow, 13 Nov 2022

 

[Ghostwheel]

What do we think of how he left his apartment? Did he plan to return? Was he in denial, didn't think they'd actually fire him? Was he expecting to return, still in the program, just happily reassigned OUT of TAing?

'Cause he's not getting his damage deposit back.

(I know, it's student housing, not a private rental, but still, that's not 'move out' ready.)

Freezer food will keep, much of his food looks to be shelf stable, but there's stuff in the fridge that wouldn't smell so good if he thought he was returning to it after Christmas.

Geez, he left it like he absconded in the dark of night.

I don't know why necessarily but I really expected it to be sparse but spotless. I never expected him to be SLOPPY. Maybe I should have.

I don't recall what date he left Pullman -- but the question remains for me -- was he or was he not intending to return?

(It appears that he was -- he left his pots and pans, his clothing, and his books behind. Father surely expected it was only a break -- boasting to the traffic cops about his successful son. Perhaps the felon continued to hold an inflated sense of himself, minimized the complaints against him and was confident he would prevail against the powers that be. Doubtful he thought he'd done anything wrong.)

Just what exactly was his plan?

He must have had one.

JMO

I think he left it with the minimum it would take to not look like he wasn't coming back. If he found a way back, fine. If not fine. But mainly to save face with his father. IMO.

His apartment was slightly more sparse, but exactly as "sloppy" as I would have expected.

Imo, his is a disordered mind and the surroundings reflect this. His trying to act logical and organized is an attempt to quell the disorder. My D does this and excels at it, so she is able to function quite well. She has figured out her organization system. My S tries but cannot find his organizational system. Both have dyslexia and Executive Function issues. S has very little Executive Function ability at all. He relies on lists. Executive Function is what we use to decide what is most important to do first and how to organize it.

The place looks like the place of a person for whom little has special (or any)importance. Bed is made, but not well. Things in cupboards, but not well organized. Keeping the disordered hidden. Having left the sheath behind, and knowing how many times he circled the house, this is slightly better than what I expected. JMO, of course.

 

[LadyL]

What do we think of how he left his apartment? Did he plan to return? Was he in denial, didn't think they'd actually fire him? Was he expecting to return, still in the program, just happily reassigned OUT of TAing?

'Cause he's not getting his damage deposit back.

(I know, it's student housing, not a private rental, but still, that's not 'move out' ready.)

Freezer food will keep, much of his food looks to be shelf stable, but there's stuff in the fridge that wouldn't smell so good if he thought he was returning to it after Christmas.

Geez, he left it like he absconded in the dark of night.

I don't know why necessarily but I really expected it to be sparse but spotless. I never expected him to be SLOPPY. Maybe I should have.

I don't recall what date he left Pullman -- but the question remains for me -- was he or was he not intending to return?

(It appears that he was -- he left his pots and pans, his clothing, and his books behind. Father surely expected it was only a break -- boasting to the traffic cops about his successful son. Perhaps the felon continued to hold an inflated sense of himself, minimized the complaints against him and was confident he would prevail against the powers that be. Doubtful he thought he'd done anything wrong.)

Just what exactly was his plan?

He must have had one.

JMO

and all that frozen vegan food is not cheap
he apparently really likes pizzas ...

 

[Tricia]

All his books seem to have been rammed into a cupboard under the TV but when LE took them out to photograph them, here are some of the titles.
Some CJ books were still shrink-wrapped.

L-Right
Pete Earley ' Crazy,a father's search through America's mental health madness'
Rise of the Warrior Cop ( bookmarked) The Militarization of America's Police Forces
Fisher, Daigle & Cullen, Unsafe in the Ivory Tower- The sexual victimization of college women' ( this was a used book he must've bought, the receipt is pictured in the screenshot)


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[Tillyjames]

and all that frozen vegan food is not cheap
he apparently really likes pizzas ...

My first thought was he’s a vegan that just eats junk… not healthy food. Hence all the frozen pizzas MOO

 

[Chloegirl]

I wonder, much like the parking tickets (and getting out of them being the goal), if BK didn't want to just challenge the legal system. If you look at what he left in his apartment it sends a message. His papers, the books, the parking tickets, the evidence that proves not much (but he still left), etc. Does he just enjoy challenging societal norms?

Was his plea deal part of the idea the whole time? Is he just trying to get out of a murder conviction? I'm waiting for a last minute appeal effort. He has a couple days.

Is this the mind of a would be serial killer toying with us? It's an interesting thought to ponder. JMOO

 

[Megnut]

I wonder, much like the parking tickets (and getting out of them being the goal), if BK didn't want to just challenge the legal system. If you look at what he left in his apartment it sends a message. His papers, the books, the parking tickets, the evidence that proves not much (but he still left), etc. Does he just enjoy challenging societal norms?

Was his plea deal part of the idea the whole time? Is he just trying to get out of a murder conviction? I'm waiting for a last minute appeal effort. He has a couple days.

Is this the mind of a would be serial killer toying with us? It's an interesting thought to ponder. JMOO

He's consistent. The rules don't apply to him.

Maybe they don't have rules in Pennsylvania.

He must really think he's smarter than everyone.

JMO