GUILTY PLEA DEAL ACCEPTED - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #114

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Agree with what both Steve and Alivea said about everything. Definitely agree that the plea deal was in the works way before the convicted murderer's sister would be taking the stand. moo


Bryan Kohberger struggling in prison: Steve Goncalves | Banfield​


Alivea and Steve Goncalves join "Banfield" to discuss reports of an upcoming movie by Lifetime on the murders of their sister and daughter, respectively, Kaylee Goncalves, and three other University of Idaho students in 2022. The pair also touch on Kohberger's condition in prison and the report that he took a plea deal to avoid his sister taking the stand.
 
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Iirc his sister said when she saw the news about the murders she wondered if it was him. He must have done creepy things to irritate her.

I can see him putting snakes & bugs in her bed or not letting her out of her room. She most likely witnessed how much time he was on the phone with his mother.
KG's dad/sister theorized that the State might have been planning to call her because she could have personal knowledge of his knife ownership in a way his parents did not.

JMO

15m video

 
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KG's dad/sister theorized that the State might have been planning to call her because she could have personal knowledge of his knife ownership in a way his parents did not.

JMO

15m video

I hope she would have been a cooperative witness. Her behavior in court left me with doubts.
 
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"Monroe County District Attorney Mike Mancuso
shared a letter of appreciation
and a special challenge coin sent to his office last week
by the prosecuting attorney's office in Idaho.

Mancuso said
his team was committed
- to help write the search warrants,
- approve the arrest warrant,
- participate in the arrest of Kohberger
- and conduct a thorough investigation using the resources of an investigating grand jury into his background.

'This token represents more than just a case;
it reflects the persistence, patience, and dedication of law enforcement and prosecutors
working together across the country to achieve justice for victims and their families',
Mancuso said on social media."
 
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To add...

" 'The Idaho Murders'
is expected to focus on the month-long investigation that led to Kohberger’s arrest.

'After four University of Idaho students are brutally murdered in their off-campus home,
detectives race against time to identify the killer.
The investigation eventually uncovers chilling clues that lead to Bryan Kohberger (Merry),
a seemingly quiet criminology PhD student, as the only suspect',
the Lifetime synopsis reads.

The film is expected to begin production this month."

 
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And more here. You’ll have to scroll a bit for some. State of Idaho v. Bryan C. Kohberger

The motion about restitution -- that's just GROSS.

AT cites online donation platforms (crowdsourced funds going to certain families to pay travel expenses, etc). Says BK doesn't have any money, don't be earning any money so he shouldn't be responsible? I guess, for monies they already received.

GROSS.

Through no fault of their own and through the sole fault of BK, their lives were upended. Not every family has the resources to front-end the cruel costs foist upon them by his cold actions. Hotel rooms, funeral expenses, airline tickets, lost wages -- all because of him. BK and his record shouldn't benefit from the generosity of the public who tried only to soften the financial blow of families whose emotional lives were blown apart by BK's sick, selfish, cowardly attack.

Ugly soul.

JMO
 
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I apologize that I haven't had as much time to keep up on this case (long and messy move/sale) so this might have already been addressed... Does anyone know anything about the knife on the ping pong table in the docs MassGuy posted? I'm guessing they checked it for prints. I'm thinking Xana's prints might have been on it as a weapon to fend BK off, and she dropped it? Either that or some random person's prints are on it from a previous party and it was left there. Just curious about that.

second floor living room knife on beer pong table
 
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I apologize that I haven't had as much time to keep up on this case (long and messy move/sale) so this might have already been addressed... Does anyone know anything about the knife on the ping pong table in the docs MassGuy posted? I'm guessing they checked it for prints. I'm thinking Xana's prints might have been on it as a weapon to fend BK off, and she dropped it? Either that or some random person's prints are on it from a previous party and it was left there. Just curious about that.

second floor living room knife on beer pong table

It was a knife used by the student who was checking the house in the morning if IRC.
(He took it from the kitchen in case the perp was still lurking in the house.)

JMO
 
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It was a knife used by the student who was checking the house in the morning if IRC.
His first name was Hunter.
I don't remember the surname.

JMO
Oh, I remember now him saying he grabbed a knife. Thanks for refreshing my memory, @Dotta. :)
 
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I'm sure most of you know this info (weapon imprint), but I didn't so posted it in the event it helps others.

From MassGuy's doc: : Madison Mogen wound near sternum held closed to show weapon imprint
  • Sharp pointed objects penetrate the body producing:
    • Entrance wound: may show additional injuries due to the blunt mechanism of the knife's handle or guard (patterned injuries, abrasions, bruises, etc.)
    • Wound track, usually with a dead end
    • Rarely, an exit wound; for example, stab wounds to the upper extremities or high energy stab wounds (e.g. arrows)
  • No tissue bridges are present in the center of the wound
    • Critical feature to differentiate stab wounds from laceration
  • When the knife is twisted into the body before withdrawal, there may be peculiar wound shapes: V, L, Y or irregular
  • Imprint abrasions from the handle can be present (handle's mark) (Italian Journal of Legal Medicine 2012;1:4)
    • Indicates that the entire blade penetrated the body
    • Requires vigorous pressure
Unsure if any of the above is they imprint they were trying to capture by holding the wound closed.

More info at link: https://www.pathologyoutlines.com/topic/autopsysharpforce.html
 
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I'm sure most of you know this info (weapon imprint), but I didn't so posted it in the event it helps others.

From MassGuy's doc: : Madison Mogen wound near sternum held closed to show weapon imprint
  • Sharp pointed objects penetrate the body producing:
    • Entrance wound: may show additional injuries due to the blunt mechanism of the knife's handle or guard (patterned injuries, abrasions, bruises, etc.)
    • Wound track, usually with a dead end
    • Rarely, an exit wound; for example, stab wounds to the upper extremities or high energy stab wounds (e.g. arrows)
    • Critical feature to differentiate stab wounds from laceration
  • When the knife is twisted into the body before withdrawal, there may be peculiar wound shapes: V, L, Y or irregular
    • Indicates that the entire blade penetrated the body
    • Requires vigorous pressure
Unsure if any of the above is they imprint they were trying to capture by holding the wound closed.

More info at link: https://www.pathologyoutlines.com/topic/autopsysharpforce.html
I think this is going to be from the “crossguard” which prevents your hand from slipping down the blade. So on a deep enough strike, that guard would probably leave some sort of rectangle shaped imprint.

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Ethan’s injuries surprised me a bit. The chest wound was new, as were the scalp wounds, ear wound, and wounds to his hands/wrist.

We’ve been led to believe he was killed instantly by that neck wound (it typically doesn’t work like that), but it appears he did try to defend himself.

This also explains his apparent change in position at some point.
IMG_2160.webp
 
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I appreciate @MassGuy for discovering these docs, but I had to stop scrolling almost immediately. Even just the description of Maddie with the toe tag is making me visualize this all too much.
 
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A couple of things I noticed from these new documents.

They all seemed to have fought back. Ethan did not die instantly as I think we all surmised.

Kaylee suffered different injuries than the others in addition to stab wounds. He was absolutely brutal with Kaylee.

They all suffered wounds to the head and face. Very personal.

MOO
 
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A couple of things I noticed from these new documents.

They all seemed to have fought back. Ethan did not die instantly as I think we all surmised.

Kaylee suffered different injuries than the others in addition to stab wounds. He was absolutely brutal with Kaylee.

They all suffered wounds to the head and face. Very personal.

MOO
And skull fractures for Kaylee and Xana.
 

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