Please Read. The JBR forum is just a wee bit different than the rest.

[Tricia]

Tricia, off topic here, but I decided to go check out Forums for Justice, and although it allowed me to register it keeps saying that I do not have access to the forum. Am I doing something wrong here?

Yes you are...did you pay your thousand dollars yet? LOL...justkidding.

I think my webmaster has to ok your registration. I'll make sure she does so ok? In the meantime read and enjoy.

Tricia

 

[MrsMush99]

I just did the same. I registered but I need to wait for confirmation.

I think I got confirmation Michelle. I did hit a link that brought me back to the forum. :waitasec:

 

[librazone]

Right on...and lets not leave out the Boulder DA's office which has been nothing but political garbage for the past ten years as far as this case is concerned.

 

[MrsMush99]

Yes you are...did you pay your thousand dollars yet? LOL...justkidding.

I think my webmaster has to ok your registration. I'll make sure she does so ok? In the meantime read and enjoy.

Tricia

Thanks Tricia. But I can't even read it, LOL I guess I'll just wait to be OK'D. :banghead: BTW, I believe an intruder did it. I'm curious if reading forums for justice will change my mind.

 

[bykerladi]

I have been reading this forum for quite some time, and have been posting almost as long. Tricia and the moderators have ALWAYS been faithful to the "freedom of speech" concept, and only sanction those whose words are not just offensive but also unacceptable. For example, bashing "victims", as I undertstood it, means bashing the people who were killed and/or are missing. On several threads people have posted comments about parents and loved ones of the murdered victims or missing people, and those comments can get VERY nasty. Still we are allowed to speak. Clearly if Tricia wanted to limit posts to her point of view she easily could have done that long ago. And if you don't like how things here are run, you can go to another forum. I for one think this is one of the most free thinking, well run forums I have ever come across. And, while I have been concerned of bashing by other posters, I have NEVER been worried about the moderators using thier power to censure my posts.


And to compare the Ramseys with Polly Klass' family is unbelievable. There IS no comparison.

 

[luvbeaches]

It's your place...and you make the rules. I have no problem at all with this. If I don't like it, I am welcome to leave. That's the way it is. I just appreciate you keeping this place going for all of us to discuss this case and all the others!

 

[michelle]

And to compare the Ramseys with Polly Klass' family is unbelievable. There IS no comparison.

It may not be a comparison to you but it is to some of us who believe the Ramseys are victims as well and innocent.

 

[southcitymom]

I posted this on another thread but I think it's important for all to read it.
Thank you.

Quote:


Here is the thing you all have to understand.

I got into the forum business because of the Ramsey case. I too believe it was an inside job.

I have seen first hand what the Ramsy's lies have done to innocent people.

The Ramseys make me sick. And yes, one or both killed JonBenet.

I usually don't come on the JBR forum at WS because I want to let all sides keep the discussion lively. That's why when I discuss the case I go to my other forum www.forumsforjustice.org/forums

Yes, I will allow anyone to call the Ramseys killers because one or both are. That's not just my opinion but the opinion of people much more knowledgable (sp?) than myself.

Is it unfair? Yes. I'll admit it is. But there are two things you have to remember.

1- Dear friends of mine have been almost ruined because of the Ramseys and their lies

2-I own the forum

I rarely bring out number 2 because I think it sounds like a power trip. That is not my intention. Really

Also give us credit. We allow fully and freely the discussion of an intruder even though I know this theory to be totally false.

Thank you for understanding.

In the original quote by kcksum to which you were responding, kcksum said that the Ramsey case is the only forum on Webslueths where "victim-bashing" is allowed. This is not true. I have seen victim-bashing on a number of threads on this board - it is not just an issue on the Ramsey case.

That said, whether you're bashing a victim or speaking the truth is nothing but a matter of opinion. And that's what this forum is - a bunch of opinions.

 

[sariebell]

Trisha, I don't think you need to explain anything to anybody, but it's nice when you do. We are all lucky to have a place to discuss this type of thing. I personally don't think it's bashing if a member of this forum discusses the possibility of a family member's involvement in a crime. The statistics show that family members are often responsible for these crimes. I don't like to see people rejoice in the misery of others, but I can overlook things. We all just need to chill out and take a breather sometimes when things get heated.

Thanks for doing what you do!

 

[panthera]

I have been reading this forum for quite some time, and have been posting almost as long. Tricia and the moderators have ALWAYS been faithful to the "freedom of speech" concept, and only sanction those whose words are not just offensive but also unacceptable. For example, bashing "victims", as I undertstood it, means bashing the people who were killed and/or are missing. On several threads people have posted comments about parents and loved ones of the murdered victims or missing people, and those comments can get VERY nasty. Still we are allowed to speak. Clearly if Tricia wanted to limit posts to her point of view she easily could have done that long ago. And if you don't like how things here are run, you can go to another forum. I for one think this is one of the most free thinking, well run forums I have ever come across. And, while I have been concerned of bashing by other posters, I have NEVER been worried about the moderators using thier power to censure my posts.

This is a very good point! The Ramseys were suspects, and according to the DA in her news conference, Mr. Ramsey appears to still be a suspect - along with John Mark Karr. Many times in the cases we discuss, it IS a member of the family who IS the perpetrator of the murder! Just got a conviction of Perry March this week for another 10 year old murder - of his wife! I'm grateful that we are allowed to explore all persons who may be involved - just as Law Enforcement does during their investigations.

 

[NK57]

Tricia,
I am so glad that you have printed where exactly you stand on the case. Like you, I really do feel that this may have been an inside job. When Mr. Karr was first arrested, I too felt that I may owe the Ramsey's a silent apology. But as I become more and more familiar with the case and with Karr, I don't think he's our man. Just personally... and I mean "my own personally" I believe the killer was buried just short of two months ago.

I will wait to see where this investigation goes and what role Mr. Karr played in it.

Nancy

 

[kazzbar]

The ramseys are victims also their daughter was murdered just like klaas" daughter was.This site is so hypocritical,Im going elsewhere...

oh, do not leave.Everyone should be entitled to there opinion.

 

[dottierainbow]

Yes, I think you are right. I remember Mark Lunsford and his family were bashed also.
Amy

In the original quote by kcksum to which you were responding, kcksum said that the Ramsey case is the only forum on Webslueths where "victim-bashing" is allowed. This is not true. I have seen victim-bashing on a number of threads on this board - it is not just an issue on the Ramsey case.

That said, whether you're bashing a victim or speaking the truth is nothing but a matter of opinion. And that's what this forum is - a bunch of opinions.

 

[MistyM]

you can leave but i highly doubt you will find any site discussing the ramsey case that will not have both sides disagreeing.

i believe the ramsey's are innocent, but i wouldn't say other people saying they think john ramsey killed his daughter is the same as cutting down marc klaas. he's not the suspect in this crime. i know tricia thinks they are guilty, but that isn't going to stop me from coming here and getting information and discussing it. seriously i just want SOMEONE to pay for killing jonbenet. whether it's her parents, karr, or someone else. i think we all do. so no matter what side we are on, we should just hope they find out who did it.

 

[dottierainbow]

Where did cynnpatts post go?
Amy

oh, do not leave.Everyone should be entitled to there opinion.

 

[englishleigh]

Tricia, you make thr rules here, Hon. I find it very interesting that you feel so strongly that Patsy and/or John killed JonBenet...I have always been on the fence but I admit leaning far more towards Patsy...she just was a very weird person to me, her behavior was out there.
Now with his Karr person, I am really torn. But if not Karr...then i'm back to leaning towards JBR's killer having died unpunished, 2 months ago.

Thank you for Websleuths, Tricia, and all you do. :blowkiss:

 

[southcitymom]

Yes, I think you are right. I remember Mark Lunsford and his family were bashed also.
Amy

It used to bother me, especially when one of the Terms of Service here states: "11. Please note that Websleuths is a victim friendly forum therefore we do not permit name calling of victims. Please tread carefully in this area. Discussion of victims and families is permitted but name calling and foundless accusations will not be allowed."

In my opinion, I see a good deal of bashing go on in a number of cases here. But, in reality, WHO is a victim in any given case is a matter of opinion and if a Moderator has the same opinion as the person who I perceive to be victim-bashing, the Mod is going to let that post stand. It's not power-trippy, it's just human nature. Whether it's true or not, most of us think our opinions are right.

It's probably impossible for Mods to be impartial when they have strong opinions about things just like the rest of us. So it is what it is here.

 

[bulletgirl2002]

Tricia, you make thr rules here, Hon. I find it very interesting that you feel so strongly that Patsy and/or John killed JonBenet...I have always been on the fence but I admit leaning far more towards Patsy...she just was a very weird person to me, her behavior was out there.
Now with his Karr person, I am really torn. But if not Karr...then i'm back to leaning towards JBR's killer having died unpunished, 2 months ago.

Thank you for Websleuths, Tricia, and all you do. :blowkiss:

But if wierdness determined who killed JonBenet, Karr was definately the person...

 

[englishleigh]

But if wierdness determined who killed JonBenet, Karr was definately the person...

LOLOL, you got that right!! He is the creepiest, weirdest thing I've ever seen.

 

[michelle]

LOLOL, you got that right!! He is the creepiest, weirdest thing I've ever seen.

He sort of looks like ET in this pic http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/jonbenet-suspect-to-return-to-us-on/20060816163809990004?ncid=NWS00010000000001, its the 3rd pic incase you all want to see.