Police say parents are not answering vital questions #3

[In da Middle]

I agree. Hmmm...it was placed there after the search? :waitasec: Weird.

Not after. For the search.

 

[DeAnn]

To be fair, it really wasn't very possible for them to speak to the media on the 4th nor the first half of the 5th as they were with LE at the station during this time period doing what they should have been doing.

O/T why would somebody give Aisha time to text a lengthy message to somebody after she just supposedly slapped him hard before taking her?

To be accurate, I've never heard of a stranger Amber Alert where the parents weren't brought out by police to talk with the media on the first day.

It was really strange that day. Police said the parents didn't want to do an interview the first day. Parents through representatives later denied that and said police wouldn't let them. Either way....whether Elizabeth Smart, Mary Jo Stinnett, whatever, the interviews are paused on the first day so that parents can make a public plea in stranger abduction Amber Alerts.

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

For this to happen why did the dog not hit on the crib then? We CAN say it didn't as the crib was not taken into evidence.

Then by this rationale, you concede that a cadaver dog did hit in the master bedroom thus confirming that a dead body was in the master bedroom and since all other family members are accounted for and the only one missing, it must be Baby Lisa's body that was dead in the master bedroom where the mother states she slept and the father says he woke the mother up in that room.

 

[In da Middle]

To be accurate, I've never heard of a stranger Amber Alert where the parents weren't brought out by police to talk with the media on the first day.

It was really strange that day. Police said the parents didn't want to do an interview the first day. Parents through representatives later denied that and said police wouldn't let them. Either way....whether Elizabeth Smart, Mary Jo Stinnett, whatever, the interviews are paused on the first day so that parents can make a public plea in stranger abduction Amber Alerts.

LE has misled the media and the public since then also so I MIGHT have to believe that this might have really happened. LE stated that the family quit cooperating, then had to backtrack that by saying they WERE cooperating, just wouldn't come in for separate interviews. LE also stated that they had 'moved on' from several people, then in the same breath stated that NOBODY had been cleared. WTH does that mean? So for this to happen, to me, is not a stretch.

 

[In da Middle]

Then by this rationale, you concede that a cadaver dog did hit in the master bedroom thus confirming that a dead body was in the master bedroom and since all other family members are accounted for and the only one missing, it must be Baby Lisa's body that was dead in the master bedroom where the mother states she slept and the father says he woke the mother up in that room.

NO. I am not conceding that the ONE hit meant anything yet. What did it hit on? I am saying that when the 17 hour search happened, if the baby was dead in the crib, it would have been taken. Since only 7 items in the entire house were taken after 17 hours, I am not convinced yet, that the hit was legit. If it comes out that the dog hit on those items taken and any of them were 'in the area of the floor in the bedroom' and it is a confirmed hit, then I will see that it actually happened.

 

[cityslick]

Then by this rationale, you concede that a cadaver dog did hit in the master bedroom thus confirming that a dead body was in the master bedroom and since all other family members are accounted for and the only one missing, it must be Baby Lisa's body that was dead in the master bedroom where the mother states she slept and the father says he woke the mother up in that room.

I think the issue currently is we don't know exactly what the dog hit on and there was a limited number of items that were taken from the house. We've seen that in past cases where there has been dog hit(s), lots of stuff has been taken. For example, if there was any hit in that car, the car would of been taken and processed. I think if there was a hit in the crib or even DB's bed, all of that would of been taken. But it also doesn't mean it's a 100% guarantee that there was a dead body in any of those items.

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

I was watching a show on ID last night and they said flies will swarm over a dead body within minutes of the death. For those who think BL was in the home deceased for several hours, why is there no report from LE of flies in the house? If they can get into a car trunk, I'm sure they can get into a home.

 

[hambirg]

I was watching a show on ID last night and they said flies will swarm over a dead body within minutes of the death. For those who think BL was in the home deceased for several hours, why is there no report from LE of flies in the house? If they can get into a car trunk, I'm sure they can get into a home.

I don't think LE has told us anything about what they found in the house. It would be weird it the one thing they did tell us about was flies. :waitasec:

 

[cityslick]

I was watching a show on ID last night and they said flies will swarm over a dead body within minutes of the death. For those who think BL was in the home deceased for several hours, why is there no report from LE of flies in the house? If they can get into a car trunk, I'm sure they can get into a home.

I hadn't heard about that indoors but I guess anything is possible. Also I thought the decomp process starts right after death so I wonder if there would be fluids if a body was left for hours at a time?

 

[Whisperer]

If one believes DB then Lisa was in the crib and was taken from the crib or died in the crib, then the dogs not hitting there would perplex you.

I have learned to believe nothing she says regarding the abduction and Lisa's whereabouts that evening.

 

[cityslick]

If one believes DB then Lisa was in the crib and was taken from the crib or died in the crib, then the dogs not hitting there would perplex you.

I have learned to believe nothing she says regarding the abduction and Lisa's whereabouts that evening.

She certainly was in the crib at some point that evening according to SB when she checked on her.

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

I was watching a show on ID last night and they said flies will swarm over a dead body within minutes of the death. For those who think BL was in the home deceased for several hours, why is there no report from LE of flies in the house? If they can get into a car trunk, I'm sure they can get into a home.

FWIW, I don't think that it is just that cut and dry. There are many variables that have to occur for the insects to be attracted to a decomposing body. If that were simply the case hospitals, nursing homes, morgues etc. would be over run with flies.

 

[Whisperer]

At about four hours after death the body stiffens in adults. The body relaxes later. I have not witnesses any fluids immediately after death but some say the they have observed urine and feces released immediately after death.

Lisa could have drowned in the tub that night.
She could have been placed in a blanket/rug and then a suitcase/bag
The bag/blanket/rug could have been on the floor.
I doubt she would remain in the house for hours after death.

We have not heard about the other hits from the dogs and most likely will not unless DB is charged with the crime. Why give the Defense more ammo to work with?

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

FWIW, I don't think that it is just that cut and dry. There are many variables that have to occur for the insects to be attracted to a decomposing body. If that were simply the case hospitals, nursing homes, morgues etc. would be over run with flies.

Being married to a nurse, I can tell you I've never heard her say that they left a dead body for a day as some are suggesting happened to Lisa, and a small home is a much more confined place than a hospital, thus the stench of a dead body would be more intense IMHO.

 

[Whisperer]

She certainly was in the crib at some point that evening according to SB when she checked on her.

Yeah..SB says she was in her crib and JI says he was playing with her and the boys...

....SB was not convincing with her statement. She used the word, "Apparently" fine. That indicates she assumed she was fine which could mean she didn't see her moving...OR she may not have even seen her but assumed since she was quiet all was well.

When SB comes forward and speaks then I can evaluate. She seems to have locked herself up with DB and the legal team. There is no one who needs four different Criminal Defense Attorneys when their child vanishes. They are covering for someone or something and SB is going along for the ride with them.

 

[Whisperer]

Being married to a nurse, I can tell you I've never heard her say that they left a dead body for a day as some are suggesting happened to Lisa, and a small home is a much more confined place than a hospital, thus the stench of a dead body would be more intense IMHO.

I've seen many dead bodies and have never seen flies on them. If they are outside in the elements and it is warm, flies will bet there within minutes. We have had them on the gurney sometimes for 24 hrs and no bugs. Of course there is a sheet over the body.

With Lisa also, she was likely covered or bagged.

 

[Whisperer]

Joe P says the parents will NOT be interrogated. Joe T. says he will not allow the parents to answer any question unless he reviews them first. He insists that HE set the ground rules for LE.

Between these two CRIMINAL DEFENSE attorneys, we can see there will be no talking to LE at all. It doesn't take much to figure out and assume that the parents are guilty. No parent who wanted their child would behave this way. No parent would hide behind an attorney unless for protection from LE and ultimately profit.

Since these two sought out the media that pays well (as in the Anthony Case) and they hired the same, we can expect if LE makes the slightest move toward arrest w/o a body, the attorneys will sue them. This is what happened with the Aisenbergs and they walked away with a cool million from the local LE.

 

[Whisperer]

Has anyone confirmed JI's work hours? It has been said he normally gets home @ 4:30pm meaning he most likely starts work @ 7:30am. This seems about right if he is working for a commercial project.

If that is accurate, then he came home early that day. Where was DB from 2:30 to 5:00pm? Did DB say that Lisa was in her crib @ 4:30pm or did that info come from SB?

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Joe P says the parents will NOT be interrogated. Joe T. says he will not allow the parents to answer any question unless he reviews them first. He insists that HE set the ground rules for LE.

Between these two CRIMINAL DEFENSE attorneys, we can see there will be no talking to LE at all. It doesn't take much to figure out and assume that the parents are guilty. No parent who wanted their child would behave this way. No parent would hide behind an attorney unless for protection and ultimately profit.

Since these two sought out the media that pays well (as in the Anthony Case) and they hired the same, we can expect if LE makes the slightest move toward arrest w/o a body, the attorneys will sue them. This is what happened with the Aisenbergs and they walked away with a cool million from the local LE.

Except the Aisenbergs didn't sue because they were arrested without a body. The investigators put wiretraps in their home illegally, and then lied about what was heard on those tapes. The charges were dropped, and the Aisenbergs sued for the amount of their legal fees.

 

[Whisperer]

The Aisenbergs made out because of the arrest. All LE are sensitive because of them. Between these two and the Anthony gang, no justice can come for the children...just money for the family.