Poll: If an R confessed, would you accept it?

[Holdontoyourhat]

Wha?

only 1) and 2)? Why not 3) and 4)?

Truth be told, I do want the case solved. And I do believe my own theory, which regrettably does not fall within your cross-section of possibilities.

 

[joeskidbeck]

Two combat-trained adult intruders armed with ligatures, tape, and stungun would have no problem moving JBR against her will to the basement without disturbing others sleeping one floor up. There is evidence that this took place. Fiber consistent with the ligature was found in her bed. JBR was found with a deep furrow around her neck from the ligature. There is positive evidence that this ligature was applied while she was alive. This is known crime scene evidence that stands in direct opposition to the whole RDI staging theory. The extra loops in the 2nd ligature are unexplained by RDI. The multi-looped 2nd ligature could've been a redundant system that was not required, and thus no marks were found of resistance against them.

A pair of uniform marks were found on JBR that are unexplained by RDI. The DNA of an unknown male found in multple places on clothing JBR was wearing is unexplained by RDI.

Intruders in the house would need to contend with the possibility of a parent wandering around looking for JBR missing from her bed. The placement of the ransom note on the rear stairway, and the length of the note, are evidence of this. The ransom note on the rear stairs could've been part of a tripwire system that would alert a single intruder in the kitchen who was busy watching the front stairs.

HOTYH:
This tells me that you don't believe it was Amy's rapist either, do you? Didn't he act alone?

 

[BBB167893]

OK

Let me know how that works out.

Let me get this straight. You're writing a RDI book and you've devoted 200 pages to IDI thought?

Nooooo...you said that it would be exceedingly difficult, if not impossible, for an RDI to come up with a plausible scenario by using the evidence. My point was that not only is it not impossible, but that, in my opinion, I've DONE it!

 

[BBB167893]

An FBI profiler already stated that the note was 'full of commanding phrases'. Maybe we should read the note more from the commanding/military standpoint, because if it was really intruders, then they must have used some for real tactics.

I don't know about that last part, but I think you may really be onto something with that "commanding phrases" stuff. Whomever wrote it seems to have a bit of experience with taking charge and giving orders.

 

[JMO8778]

Patsy was certainly known to be bossy when things didn't go just her way.

 

[Roy23]

It's that belief that makes me wonder why you would accept an R confession like you said you would.

Why? I don't understand. If a Ramsey confessed, I am sure they could explain away all the missing pieces of this puzzle. The DNA too. I don't think the Ramsey's would make a false confession so I would accept it.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Let me know how that works out.



Nooooo...you said that it would be exceedingly difficult, if not impossible, for an RDI to come up with a plausible scenario by using the evidence. My point was that not only is it not impossible, but that, in my opinion, I've DONE it!

What you didn't do was read my post. I said a plausible 'intruder' scenario. Its difficult, if not impossible for an RDI to come up with a working 'intruder' scenario. Thats what I said.

 

[Roy23]

amy's rapist is "known" but i do not know if she/they consented to a rape exam and dna

hopefully sophie can shed light

Voynich,.

Sorry so late in following up on your email to me. I thought you were saying that LE knew who Amy's rapist was. So am I right that they do not know who it is? And I really hope that we can find out if any DNA was taken from Amy. I see that some speculate if the events of Amy's supposed rape are real. I am not familiar with all of this. I, for one, believe that if this story is true then it would almost definitely be related to JBR.

 

[madeleine]

I don't know about that last part, but I think you may really be onto something with that "commanding phrases" stuff. Whomever wrote it seems to have a bit of experience with taking charge and giving orders.

Mmmmmmm,maybe an executive who also was in the army?

 

[Sophie]

Re the Amy DNA, I haven't had any fresh correspondence from Boulder but then we have a postal strike which is right royally buggering up correspondence - hopefully I'll hear this week.

 

[Roy23]

Re the Amy DNA, I haven't had any fresh correspondence from Boulder but then we have a postal strike which is right royally buggering up correspondence - hopefully I'll hear this week.

Sophie,

Although we generally disagree, I appreciate you more than most. Can't wait to see what you find out and you are doing a great thing.

 

[Sophie]

Sophie,

Although we generally disagree, I appreciate you more than most. Can't wait to see what you find out and you are doing a great thing.

Thank you, Roy: I value you a lot, too.

 

[DeeDee249]

What am I...chopped liver?



(kidding)

 

[BBB167893]

Why? I don't understand. If a Ramsey confessed, I am sure they could explain away all the missing pieces of this puzzle. The DNA too. I don't think the Ramsey's would make a false confession so I would accept it.

:clap: Well said, sir.

 

[Sophie]

What am I...chopped liver?



(kidding)

Well, you cause a lot of aching ribs with your one liners etc

 

[BBB167893]

What you didn't do was read my post. I said a plausible 'intruder' scenario. Its difficult, if not impossible for an RDI to come up with a working 'intruder' scenario. Thats what I said.

You got me there, friend. I've been kind of overamped these last few days. Don't mind it.

 

[BBB167893]

Mmmmmmm,maybe an executive who also was in the army?

You catch on quickly!

 

[Ravyn]

What you didn't do was read my post. I said a plausible 'intruder' scenario. Its difficult, if not impossible for an RDI to come up with a working 'intruder' scenario. Thats what I said.

No its not impossible for an RDI to come up with an working intruder scenario, but I bet it would be hard for the IDI's to come up with an RDI scenario...Cause other than a SSF, I can look at a couple of people that had KEY access to the house...But to the IDI's if its not SSF or Amy's intruder it don't even get touch by you or any other IDI...

 

[Sophie]

No its not impossible for an RDI to come up with an working intruder scenario, but I bet it would be hard for the IDI's to come up with an RDI scenario...



I think you're right, Ravyn. I have a minor theory on this (LOL). I think IDI are very one-dimensional in their views of Patsy and John. There's this perception of her as being this perfect, shiny, sweet church lady who just didn't have the temperamental wherewithal to commit this crime and of his being this perfect, dynamic, industrious family man who similarly couldn't harm a fly. RDI may be critical of Patsy but they do at least show her the respect of crediting her with the normal bumps, layers and grooves that we all have and of being a flesh and blood woman who was living with stresses that most us can only imagine.

This isn't for the purposes of bolstering my own RDI convictions. Just an attempt to explain why RDI can envisage PDI/JDI scenarios and accept that there are IDI scenarios that they find much less persuasive while IDI often can't even begin to think of an RDI scenario. Having said that, I know a number of our in-house IDIs are a bit less intransigent on the point.

 

[Sophie]

Just picturing the faces of those sued by the Ramseys if John did confess. Safe bet that they'd be consulting their lawyers....