Porepunkah shooting: Two officers dead and another wounded after shooting at High Country property, Victoria, Australia #2

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It's weird isn't it? It was so big at first, and now a month has already gone. Although local residents can't relax, I should imagine that for a majority of Aussies they don't think about it much anymore. It's easy to conclude that Dezi must be dead. I found myself thinking that today. But he is one tricky so-and-so, and this may be just the time he has been waiting for. I daresay he knows about Tom Phillips in NZ? I wonder if he knows about him being dead now - I forget now how the dates dovetail. But Tom was on the run for 4 years, Dezi almost certainly knew about him, and probably admired him. He would definitely not give up after 4 weeks.
Good points @Kemug.
What do you think could keep the interest going on this thread.
Do you think there would be a way of marking out possible hiding places using perhaps GIS mapping.
I would have hoped the authorities have been using technology to find caves and mines but they may have missed something.
Maybe there's a mining map showing where shafts were made, or a list of Aboriginal caves around Mt Buffalo.
Do you or anyone else have any ideas.
 
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Hmmm….. seems things may be easing up in Porepunkah - the airport “closed” signs have been removed, so it looks like the airport is back in business. The airport was closed at 6.00 this morning, but I looked just now and it is open.


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  • #643
Good points @Kemug.
What do you think could keep the interest going on this thread.
Do you think there would be a way of marking out possible hiding places using perhaps GIS mapping.
I would have hoped the authorities have been using technology to find caves and mines but they may have missed something.
Maybe there's a mining map showing where shafts were made, DDor a list of Aboriginal caves around Mt Buffalo.
Do you or anyone else have any ideas.
Well shucks, thank you Lucy! But technology is not my strong point, and I'm not being humble here. However, I do think the fact that airborne heat-seeking cameras have not found Dezi pretty much proves he is underground (unless he has left the area, of course). There is no point in searching on foot for a campsite. And police entering a cave or mineshaft sounds like it could be an invitation to be picked off one by one. Maybe lob smoke bombs/grenades into every single one, and smoke him out.
As for keeping the interest in finding him going, it's hard to have news when there is no news, and hard to talk about something when there's nothing new to talk about. What does come to my mind is a running total displayed "60 days since Dezi was last seen" - something like that. Like they have at mine sites for accident-free days. Boards could be put up around the Snowies, ditto in news bulletins, and even on Websleuths. What do you all think?
 
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That’s interesting Marg.

If Filby’s still out there, four weeks in the bush, probably underground, would be taking a serious toll. His thinking may be foggy, hygiene poor, and his respiration could be strained. Isolation, paranoia, broken sleep, constant alertness, grief, hunger, infection, and injury could all be piling up. He’d have to be in a sustained fight or flight state with adrenaline shredding his nervous system. He might be physically fit and kitted out but he doesn’t come across as mentally or emotionally strong.
If he hasn’t survived, decomposition could be advanced by now. Without remains or sightings, the case could stay unresolved. Police know they have to scale back at some point. Perhaps if the pressure of surveillance lifts and he’s alive, he might start moving again, and the situation may shift from hiding and containment to him travelling or moving which would mean a better opportunity to pursue him.
The approach might be changing, but the determination to get him won’t budge an inch.
 
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His thinking may be foggy ...

His thinking has always been foggy. imo
By now, as you say, it may be even foggier.

I can't imagine that anyone could slaughter two police officers and think they will get away with it. Keep looking over your shoulder, Filby. Must be very stressful.
 
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His thinking has always been foggy. imo
By now, as you say, it may be even foggier.

I can't imagine that anyone could slaughter two police officers and think they will get away with it. Keep looking over your shoulder, Filby. Must be very stressful.
Yeah, it’s hard to imagine that kind of delusion, thinking you can take out two officers and just slip through the cracks. The shooting was probably a reactive impulse and then he fled with no long term plan. If he’s still alive he will be very keen to contact or connect with Mali and the kids for sure. I wondered if the full on airfield surveillance was exactly about watching for that. If he’s not already dead he’ll be spiralling towards it. Maybe the system doesn’t need to chase him now. It just needs to wait.
 
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Yeah, it’s hard to imagine that kind of delusion, thinking you can take out two officers and just slip through the cracks. The shooting was probably a reactive impulse and then he fled with no long term plan. If he’s still alive he will be very keen to contact or connect with Mali and the kids for sure. I wondered if the full on airfield surveillance was exactly about watching for that. If he’s not already dead he’ll be spiralling towards it. Maybe the system doesn’t need to chase him now. It just needs to wait.

Depends on whether or not he thinks he is Malcolm Naden. I think police technology today likely has even better tracking abilities - than in 2012 - once the police get a sniff of where Filby is.


After nearly seven years on the run, Naden is arrested in a dramatic operation in bushland near Gloucester in the Upper Hunter. Police had rigged up hidden cameras in the bush and tracked Naden before his capture.

 
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Updated today:-


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Depends on whether or not he thinks he is Malcolm Naden. I think police technology today likely has even better tracking abilities - than in 2012 - once the police get a sniff of where Filby is.
After nearly seven years on the run, Naden is arrested in a dramatic operation in bushland near Gloucester in the Upper Hunter. Police had rigged up hidden cameras in the bush and tracked Naden before his capture.
My friend had a nephew working at the Dubbo Zoo, living in a cottage on site, during Naden's years on the run. He had no idea that Naden was living in his roof cavity for quite some time!
 
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The families of two officers brutally murdered by Australia's most wanted man will attend a memorial service honouring police who went to work but never came home.
Monday marks one of the most significant days in the policing calendar, National Police Remembrance Day, which gives police a chance to pay tribute to those killed on the job.

 
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Have scaled down to 200 officers.

Bush said police have so far searched 40-square-kilometre area by foot and air to find Freeman.


That's interesting, Mt Buffalo National Park is 310km²

40km² doesn't seem like much for ~450 officers in one whole month, even with dense forests / mineshafts / difficult terrain

I don't really know what I'm talking about, it just seems really small to me
 
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Have scaled down to 200 officers.

Bush said police have so far searched 40-square-kilometre area by foot and air to find Freeman.

That's interesting, Mt Buffalo National Park is 310km²

40km² doesn't seem like much for ~450 officers in one whole month, even with dense forests / mineshafts / difficult terrain

I don't really know what I'm talking about, it just seems really small to me
The search zone does looks tight and is likely to be close to where Filby fled, and near his home and the airfield. Police kept heavy surveillance on the airfield for weeks, which suggests they weren’t just combing the hills but also watching for movement, return, or pre-arranged contact. If so, that airfield presence would have really constrained Filby’s ability to move, return or receive aid without detection. If the search and surveillance area has actually been pretty much contained close to his home the police appeal to anyone ‘harbouring’ him points to help coming from nearby in Porepunkah There was also around 200 public tip-offs, so it’s possible someone revealed plans to resupply him or meetup with helpers. The focus may have been on looking for him in the bush and intercepting aid close to home. That entire area would be saturated in every kind of digital coverage now and if he’s still out there he’s probably now in their net.
 
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