Prescriptions on the Property

[OneLostGrl]

You bring up an interesting point about nurse practitioners and PA's. We have a local medical group which is comprised of one or two MD's and several PA's and NP's. If you have an ailment, you are seen by whichever practitioner is available. Perhaps Cindy is a patient of a group such as this one and that is the reason for her RX's being prescribed by different doctors.

Now THAT could very well be!! You smart!

 

[OneLostGrl]

This thread is so interesting. With no professional medical background and, thank God, very limited prescription drug experience I really appreciate my fellow sleuther's expertise. That said, the detail of private information provided by the Florida Sunshine Law astounds me. This evening, I thought, "I hope that no one in my family ever commits a crime in Florida". Then I sat back and thought - Man, isn't that the reaction a crime deterrent is supposed to produce ?

It sure is!!

 

[magic-cat]

Heres an example of how it usually goes- Mr. X is prescribed 6mg Klonopin daily but only take 2 mg daily because it doesn't really do that much for him. His friend (let's call him "B") gets Oxycontin but loves him some Klonopin once in awhile so when they get their scripts filled they trade 10 for 10..fair, right? Well, Mr. X has other "friends" that are willing to pay top dollar for Oxy's. With the amount he sells the Oxy's for he can now pay cash for another script of Klonopin... from a different doctor. Sometimes before the month is up, "B" is back offering more Oxy's for more Klonopin, the sale from those Oxy's enable you to pay cash for another Oxy script.. of course from yet another different doctor ..

No insurance needed. Pill-heads learn the in's and outs pretty quickly...

It is almost a fine art with them...almost...

There is also another way that there could have been numerous drugs on hand and that is what Cheshire mentioned, I think-samples! Nurses get lots of samples...were any of THOSE found I wonder.

 

[OneLostGrl]

Remember the interview where everyone remarked that Cindy looked like she was either going to nod off or slide sideways out of her chair? Klonopin would be my bet on that day.

See, I think that's when she was discontinuing it. IMO it was after that day that Cindy started to seem as though she was "feeling" things again. That's just MO though.

 

[Oakley]

Now THAT could very well be!! You smart!

Not really, OLG. Just every now and then something comes to mind. But you are sweet to say so!

 

[JBean]

Heres an example of how it usually goes- Mr. X is prescribed 6mg Klonopin daily but only take 2 mg daily because it doesn't really do that much for him. His friend (let's call him "B") gets Oxycontin but loves him some Klonopin once in awhile so when they get their scripts filled they trade 10 for 10..fair, right? Well, Mr. X has other "friends" that are willing to pay top dollar for Oxy's. With the amount he sells the Oxy's for he can now pay cash for another script of Klonopin... from a different doctor. Sometimes before the month is up, "B" is back offering more Oxy's for more Klonopin, the sale from those Oxy's enable you to pay cash for another Oxy script.. of course from yet another different doctor ..

No insurance needed. Pill-heads learn the in's and outs pretty quickly...

LOL around here they don't use insurance, they just have the doc write a script for 150 xanax,150 oxycontin , 300 norco,150 soma, get it all filled at Costco and call it good.

 

[masyann]

Using different pharmacies rarely works anymore either. When you get a script filled, let's say for 30 Lexapro, your insurance instantly approves the RX as some insurance drug policies make you try a lesser expensive med that does that same thing or your doc might write you a 90 day supply for something but your insurance will only allow you 30 at a time, as in Ambien.
SO if go to pharmacy A to get 30 days of Lexapro, your insurance has approved the payment amt, you do the co pay. Next day, next wk, you go to Doc B to score more Lexapro since he doesnt know Dr A wrote you an Rx. Happy to score another 30 day script for Lexapro, you go to a different pharmacy, but guess what, they are putting your insurance thru & your insurance will tell them they will not pay for it as you just had 30 filled last wk at Pharmacy A. I can promise you within 5 minutes every single place that fills scripts has been notified you are trying to fill a questionable script & they are not to fill it without contacting the Dr.

Thank you for your information
I do have a question. What if you go to the pharmacy and say you do not have insurance and you are paying cash, I am not saying they would not check with the doctor, but I would think Lexapro is a schedule IV (not sure) so would they question that?

And sorry another question, you sound like you would know the answer to this. In every state are the medication regulations the same? I guess I am asking are they federal or do they go by state? Or both depending.

You would think I could remember this, I am in school for AMA and in a medical office class we just went over some of this and I can not remember, and my book is at my daughters. So thank you in advance and to anyone that has the answer.

 

[OneLostGrl]

It is almost a fine art with them...almost...

There is also another way that there could have been numerous drugs on hand and that is what Cheshire mentioned, I think-samples! Nurses get lots of samples...were any of THOSE found I wonder.

I have to be honest here, I don't think there were any drugs at play in this case, not with Casey (I think she smoked some weed or took Xanax on a friday night or whatever but that's it) or Cindy. I'm pretty sure Cindy was self medicating for a bit after Caylee went missing but I certainly can't fault her for that. I'd be so over-medicated on stuff like Seroquel, Haldol or Orap that I'd be too busy being comatose and pissing my bed to do news interviews etc.

 

[Oakley]

I have to be honest here, I don't think there were any drugs at play in this case, not with Casey (I think she smoked some weed or took Xanax on a friday night or whatever but that's it) or Cindy. I'm pretty sure Cindy was self medicating for a bit after Caylee went missing but I certainly can't fault her for that. I'd be so over-medicated on stuff like Seroquel, Haldol or Orap that I'd be too busy being comatose and pissing my bed to do news interviews etc.

(bold mine) You and me both. I think Cindy is a very strong, tough woman, which is why I don't buy BC's "too grief stricken" to attend deposition with John Morgan. But I guess that is another thread.

 

[masyann]

I get 60 ambien a month. I take 2 evrey night. My insurance pays for them. I know most of you have bad experience with them. They work fine for me and I do not get up and do anything like sleep walk or drive or eat. (I dont think I do anyway) I cant remember... And I do have a prescription..........just thought I better add that

 

[OneLostGrl]

LOL around here they don't use insurance, they just have the doc write a script for 150 xanax,150 oxycontin , 300 norco,150 soma, get it all filled at Costco and call it good.

Oh, I know! It is so sad..

 

[JBean]

Oh, I know! It is so sad..

My gf has a standing prescription for 350 norco per month. paid for by the state.

 

[OneLostGrl]

I get 60 ambien a month. I take 2 evrey night. My insurance pays for them. I know most of you have bad experience with them. They work fine for me and I do not get up and do anything like sleep walk or drive or eat. (I dont think I do anyway) I cant remember... And I do have a prescription..........just thought I better add that

oh Boy, we had this discussion toward the start of this case too- drugs (my gawd, do you hear my mouth watering?!? aargh!) I was on Ambien for awhile too.. they didn't make me sleepy at all so I stayed awake while on them but they sure did make me black out. I'd clean the house and all kindsa stuff but had no memory of it... they reminded me of Halcion.

 

[OneLostGrl]

My gf has a standing prescription for 350 norco per month. paid for by the state.

Lovely, huh? Medicare pays for my moms methadone. :crazy:

 

[OneLostGrl]

(bold mine) You and me both. I think Cindy is a very strong, tough woman, which is why I don't buy BC's "too grief stricken" to attend deposition with John Morgan. But I guess that is another thread.

I hope Cindy gets the help she needs.. I hope she can one day find peace within herself. But as far as who she is today, right now? I too have a hard time believing she is "too grief stricken" for this deposition.

 

[OneLostGrl]

Thank you for your information
I do have a question. What if you go to the pharmacy and say you do not have insurance and you are paying cash, I am not saying they would not check with the doctor, but I would think Lexapro is a schedule IV (not sure) so would they question that?

And sorry another question, you sound like you would know the answer to this. In every state are the medication regulations the same? I guess I am asking are they federal or do they go by state? Or both depending.

You would think I could remember this, I am in school for AMA and in a medical office class we just went over some of this and I can not remember, and my book is at my daughters. So thank you in advance and to anyone that has the answer.

I can't say what the laws are because I honestly have no idea...Wish I could help.

 

[masyann]

oh Boy, we had this discussion toward the start of this case too- drugs (my gawd, do you hear my mouth watering?!? aargh!) I was on Ambien for awhile too.. they didn't make me sleepy at all so I stayed awake while on them but they sure did make me black out. I'd clean the house and all kindsa stuff but had no memory of it... they reminded me of Halcion.

I am such a lurker most of the time. But I was reading that discussion. And I was thinking they would think I was a freak.

I need to go off of them (slowly) I have always had sleep proplems then when my son died it was really bad. Ambien has worked so good for along time, but I hate having to take something.

 

[masyann]

I can't say what the laws are because I honestly have no idea...Wish I could help.

It may not matter.

I was thinking about cindy getting meds because she was a RN. I really dont know if it even matters, I do not think she would have did anything intensionally. ( I do know it is illigal for anyone in the medical feild to even take home sample drugs, and not sure if that is state or federal, may just be here in OR) Yes I must be nieve to think that everyone follows the rules. Thats my OCD talking.

I do know that if KC or anyone for that matter wanted anything they could buy them.

 

[Chilly Willy]

LOL around here they don't use insurance, they just have the doc write a script for 150 xanax,150 oxycontin , 300 norco,150 soma, get it all filled at Costco and call it good.

The pharmacies in my town won't fill more than a 30 day prescription. They even get fussy if you go back for a refill when you should have more than 3 days left from your old script.

 

[Chilly Willy]

Remember the interview where everyone remarked that Cindy looked like she was either going to nod off or slide sideways out of her chair? Klonopin would be my bet on that day.

That's what I think too. I have a friend who was on Klonopin for a while. Without fail, 30 minutes after she took it she'd be a pudding blob on a chair.