Prince Harry and Meghan Markle to marry in the spring

[sorrell skye]

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are due to attend the Trooping the Colour on Saturday when they will finally appear on the Buckingham Palace balcony.

They broke with royal tradition by marrying away from London and not having celebrations at the Palace.

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle to finally appear on Buckingham Palace balcony

This is going to be a huge moment to see them all on the Buckingham Palace balcony with the airforce jets flying above.

Did they really "break with royal tradition" by "marrying away from London" i.e. at Windsor, or were they offered no other option?

 

[sorrell skye]

According to the Royal Rulz: If Megan doesn't produce a male heir, the title of Duke of Sussex will die out, as the title is not invested in female heirs.

As far as I'm concerned, this is an archaic system based upon a patriarchal system of power.

 

[gregjrichards]

Did they really "break with royal tradition" by "marrying away from London" i.e. at Windsor, or were they offered no other option?

Not really. Marrying at Westminster Abbey in London is generally reserved for weddings for the heir to the throne. This is where the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge got married they would have not been able to marry at Windsor due to the size of the event.

Prince Charles’s second wedding which took place in Windsor Guild Hall was different given as it was his second wedding and public feeling towards Camilla was slightly frosty in 2005.

 

[gregjrichards]

According to the Royal Rulz: If Megan doesn't produce a male heir, the title of Duke of Sussex will die out, as the title is not invested in female heirs.

As far as I'm concerned, this is an archaic system based upon a patriarchal system of power.

I think this is likely to be changed by the Queen when The Duchess of Sussex is pregnant.

 

[sorrell skye]

Not really. Marrying at Westminster Abbey in London is generally reserved for weddings for the heir to the throne. This is where the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge got married they would have not been able to marry at Windsor due to the size of the event.

Prince Charles’s second wedding which took place in Windsor Guild Hall was different given as it was his second wedding and public feeling towards Camilla was slightly frosty in 2005.

So Harry & Meghan didn't "break with tradition", as was reported. They married at the chapel at Windsor Castle because Harry has been pushed down the line of succession due to Kate's fruitful womb.

 

[JDG]

So Harry & Meghan didn't "break with tradition", as was reported. They married at the chapel at Windsor Castle because Harry has been pushed down the line of succession due to Kate's fruitful womb.

Many other Royals have married at Windsor Castle though. Edward and Sophie, Peter and Autumn Phillips and others. Seems to be when it is not a state occasion and more for family and friends.

 

[JDG]

I've wondered the same thing about what Prince William & Kate do with all those rooms where they reside - a 20 room "apartment" at Kensington Palace spanning 4 storeys.

Nine or ten of the bedrooms are for staff. They claim to have only a nanny and a housekeeper. LOL

 

[JDG]

So Harry & Meghan didn't "break with tradition", as was reported. They married at the chapel at Windsor Castle because Harry has been pushed down the line of succession due to Kate's fruitful womb.

I suspect Kates' fruitful womb will produce one more child, then Harry is 7th in line. If they continue to fly together as a family, it may all be for nought. Time to go on at least two different flights if its that important that William must be king.

 

[gregjrichards]

Nine or ten of the bedrooms are for staff. They claim to have only a nanny and a housekeeper. LOL

The staff entitled to accommodation have their own small apartments at Kensington Palace. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge do not live with the help.

 

[JDG]

The staff entitled to accommodation have their own small apartments at Kensington Palace. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge do not live with the help.

the Daily Mail has been reporting that for weeks. maybe they have that wrong but I believe the head nanny stays on the premises 24/7. she has other relief nannies of course.

With three small children, you never know who is going to need attending to during the night. Im sure the infant is being nursed by his mother but the staff will attend to the older two.

Live in staff is a reality for the Cambridges at least until the kiddies are older.

 

[JDG]

Even The Sun states there are nine staff bedrooms on the fourth floor of Apartment 1A, so that the Cambridges have people at hand around the clock. I have read that the housekeeper lives in a small apartment just a jog away from Apt. 1A

 

[gregjrichards]

the Daily Mail has been reporting that for weeks. maybe they have that wrong but I believe the head nanny stays on the premises 24/7. she has other relief nannies of course.

With three small children, you never know who is going to need attending to during the night. Im sure the infant is being nursed by his mother but the staff will attend to the older two.

Live in staff is a reality for the Cambridges at least until the kiddies are older.

It is highly likely the nanny has a bedroom at the apartment and at least one for the protection officer on duty but I doubt less critical staff like housekeeping do. Due to security concerns it is highly unlikely the media has an accurate overview of the layout of Kensington Palace. They may know who lives where etc but not the layout of private apartments.

 

[Sherwood Park]

According to the Royal Rulz: If Megan doesn't produce a male heir, the title of Duke of Sussex will die out, as the title is not invested in female heirs.

As far as I'm concerned, this is an archaic system based upon a patriarchal system of power.

It doesn't really matter. Prince Harry is so far down the line it doesn't matter if any future daughter(s) isn't a Duchess or Princess. Royalty is archaic, it's supposed to be. Princess Ann and her children are doing fine in life, no major titles for them to worry about.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Only the children of the monarch or heir should be titled Prince or Princess (IMO). The Queen's sister Margaret didn't title her kids as such, and of the Queens four only Andrew chose / pushed to have to Beatrice & Eugenie named as Princesses. Those two could be the last two, as I doubt Harry will want to do it.

(I haven't written that very well, need another cuppa)

 

[Jennifer17]

Only the children of the monarch or heir should be titled Prince or Princess (IMO). The Queen's sister Margaret didn't title her kids as such, and of the Queens four only Andrew chose / pushed to have to Beatrice & Eugenie named as Princesses. Those two could be the last two, as I doubt Harry will want to do it.

(I haven't written that very well, need another cuppa)

I bet that that was down to their pushy mother who claimed to be more highly born than the Royal Family. You know, that one who didn't have a pot to piss in.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Current British Princesses

Alexandra Helen Elizabeth Olga Christabel 1936 Granddaughter of George V Daughter of Prince George, Duke of Kent.

Anne Elizabeth Alice Louise 1950 Daughter of Elizabeth II Held the title 'Princess Anne of Edinburgh' from birth, 'The Princess Anne' from her mother's accession, and styled 'The Princess Royal' in 1987.

Beatrice Elizabeth Mary 1988 Granddaughter of Elizabeth II Daughter of Prince Andrew, Duke of York.

Eugenie Victoria Helena 1990 Granddaughter of Elizabeth II Daughter of Prince Andrew, Duke of York.

Louise Alice Elizabeth Mary 2003 Granddaughter of Elizabeth II Daughter of Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex; styled as an earl's daughter per her parents' wishes and the will of the Queen, Lady Louise is thought by some experts to nonetheless retain her princely status.

Charlotte Elizabeth Diana 2015 Great-granddaughter of Elizabeth II Daughter of Prince William, Duke of Cambridge, holds the title 'Princess Charlotte of Cambridge'.

The only other one who uses the title is Princess Michael of Kent (by marriage)

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Current British Princes

Philip 1921 Husband of Queen Elizabeth II
Also a female-line Gt-gt-grandson of Queen Victoria Prince of Greece and Denmark from birth until renounced title 18 March 1947; Duke of Edinburgh – 1947; Prince of the United Kingdom (created by the sovereign) since 22 February 1957.

Richard Alexander Walter George 1944 2nd son of Henry William Frederick Albert
& Grandson of King George V Prince of the United Kingdom from birth; Duke of Gloucester since 10 June 1974.

Edward George Nicholas Paul Patrick 1935 1st son of George Edward Alexander Edmund
& Grandson of King George V Prince of the United Kingdom from birth; Duke of Kent since 25 August 1942.

Michael George Charles Franklin 1942 2nd son of George Edward Alexander Edmund
& Grandson of King George V Prince of the United Kingdom from birth.

Charles Philip Arthur George 1948 1st son of Queen Elizabeth II Prince of the United Kingdom from birth; Duke of Cornwall and Duke of Rothesay – 1952; Prince of Wales since 26 July 1958.

Andrew Albert Christian Edward 1960 2nd son of Queen Elizabeth II Prince of the United Kingdom from birth; Duke of York since 23 July 1986.

Edward Antony Richard Louis 1964 3rd son of Queen Elizabeth II Prince of the United Kingdom from birth; Earl of Wessex since 19 June 1999.

William Arthur Philip Louis 1982 1st son of Charles Philip Arthur George
& Grandson of Queen Elizabeth II Prince of the United Kingdom from birth; Duke of Cambridge since 29 April 2011.

Henry Charles Albert David 1984 2nd son of Charles Philip Arthur George
& Grandson of Queen Elizabeth II Prince of the United Kingdom from birth; Duke of Sussex since 19 May 2018.

James Alexander Philip Theo 2007 Son of Edward Antony Richard Louis
& Grandson of Queen Elizabeth II Styled as an earl's son per his parents' wishes and the will of the Queen, James, Viscount Severn is thought by some experts to nonetheless retain his princely status .

George Alexander Louis 2013 1st son of William Arthur Philip Louis
& Gt-grandson of Queen Elizabeth II Prince of the United Kingdom from birth.

Louis Arthur Charles 2018 2nd son of William Arthur Philip Louis
& Gt-grandson of Queen Elizabeth II Prince of the United Kingdom from birth

 

[Jennifer17]

Current British Princesses

Alexandra Helen Elizabeth Olga Christabel 1936 Granddaughter of George V Daughter of Prince George, Duke of Kent.

Anne Elizabeth Alice Louise 1950 Daughter of Elizabeth II Held the title 'Princess Anne of Edinburgh' from birth, 'The Princess Anne' from her mother's accession, and styled 'The Princess Royal' in 1987.

Beatrice Elizabeth Mary 1988 Granddaughter of Elizabeth II Daughter of Prince Andrew, Duke of York.

Eugenie Victoria Helena 1990 Granddaughter of Elizabeth II Daughter of Prince Andrew, Duke of York.

Louise Alice Elizabeth Mary 2003 Granddaughter of Elizabeth II Daughter of Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex; styled as an earl's daughter per her parents' wishes and the will of the Queen, Lady Louise is thought by some experts to nonetheless retain her princely status.

Charlotte Elizabeth Diana 2015 Great-granddaughter of Elizabeth II Daughter of Prince William, Duke of Cambridge, holds the title 'Princess Charlotte of Cambridge'.

The only other one who uses the title is Princess Michael of Kent (by marriage)

No second prizes.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

So by my reckoning, of the ones that actually use the title Prince or Princess, we have 9 Princes and 6 Princesses.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I bet that that was down to their pushy mother who claimed to be more highly born than the Royal Family. You know, that one who didn't have a pot to piss in.

Sarah, bit of a wildcard!! She still lives with Prince Andrew and rumour has it they might remarry once Phil dies (he hates her).