Prosecutors have new material and information that they dont want released to the pub

[Kentjbkent]

I definitely think it's DC. He is potentially the most explosive witness that could come forward. Who knows what he saw, heard, and did in the Anthony home and in trying to find Caylee's remains.

And when you think about it, he's been left out to dry. Baez hasn't paid him, I'm not sure the Anthony's ever did (correct me if I'm wrong here), and it seems like he's been pushed out of the Anthony inner circle as well as the defense inner circle. You'd think they'd learn after Padilla to keep their friends close and their enemies closer, but yet again, he's been left to deal with the SA leaning on him on one side while the other is telling him to shut his mouth all by himself as far as anyone knows (well, with only his lawyer for help).

I think he finally got tired of all this and decided to come clean. The A's definitely prey on people they can manipulate to do their dirty work and then discard them and defame them when they don't need them anymore or feel like they have been betrayed. I see where Casey herself gets that attitude from. It's why she won't have any character witnesses other than her mom, dad, and brother at the trial.

And I can see the SA wanting more time to verify what he says and what evidence he may have because even they know that the defense and the A's will want to tear DC to pieces and destroy what's left of his career. We already know the A's have no problem turning on anyone that they think they can point the finger at for Caylee's murder. I can see that as a definite reason to NOT have the defense there and NOT release this potential bombshell information.

Also, I agree with what was said earlier in that they might be deciding to go after CA and GA and possibly Lee for obstruction and maybe even disbar Baez (at least get him off the case, therefore possibly giving the 15 months time for a new lawyer to take the case) because of what testimony and evidence DC can possibly offer, and the SA would definitely want more time to investigate that.

I just don't think GA or Lee have the stones to go against CA, so I can't see it being them. I don't really think Mallory knows enough for it to be explosive information. I think the Milsteads just want to hide and get away from this whole thing. SA has known for a long while who the father is, and that doesn't really have much to do with the case anyway since he's never been in Caylee's life and may never have known he had a child in the first place. It could be FBI evidence, but they say it's "NEW" information, and they've known for awhile what the FBI has, at least most probably by phone. It could be someone totally new, but it's been what, a year and six, seven months since the murder?

Who could possibly come forward and offer anything more explosive now other than DC?

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[JSR]

Also, doesn't A/C privilege go out the window as soon as either the attorney or the client involves a third party? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Yes. It certainly does. Provided the third party is not an agent or acting as an agent for the attorney.

 

[Kentjbkent]

If this scenario has anything to do with Baez "mistruthenating" he may be feeling quite nauseous by now, but I'll bet good money Lyons is so mad she is literally whirring high above her desk.

OMG...the visual in my head!!!

 

[The World According]

Does anyone remember if Cindy sent a teddy bear of Caylee's and had been talking to the same psychic that Dom said he was speaking to on the phone that day in the woods? I do think this has something to do with Dom. I got the feeling that things were beginning to unravel when I saw George give the blank stare to Cindy in the recent hearing.

 

[Leila]

If this scenario has anything to do with Baez "mistruthenating" he may be feeling quite nauseous by now, but I'll bet good money Lyons is so mad she is literally whirring high above her desk.

That creates quit a vivid mental image!

 

[Kentjbkent]

Does anyone remember if Cindy sent a teddy bear of Caylee's and had been talking to the same psychic that Dom said he was speaking to on the phone that day in the woods? I do think this has something to do with Dom. I got the feeling that things were beginning to unravel when I saw George give the blank stare to Cindy in the recent hearing.

Actually, I do recall this happening!!!

Seems like I recall people making comments at the time that Cindy would send a bear to this psychic but would not give LE items for dog handlers or something??

 

[Kentjbkent]

Does anyone remember if Cindy sent a teddy bear of Caylee's and had been talking to the same psychic that Dom said he was speaking to on the phone that day in the woods? I do think this has something to do with Dom. I got the feeling that things were beginning to unravel when I saw George give the blank stare to Cindy in the recent hearing.

Who is Mark N?

 

[The World According]

Mr. Nejame

 

[Kentjbkent]

Mr. Nejame

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[Jolynna]

Yes. It certainly does. Provided the third party is not an agent or acting as an agent for the attorney.

I think there are some gray areas about what is and is not privileged because DC at one time was an agent of Baez's.

Maybe the prosecution wants to discuss with the judge whether or not the new information might also fall under the blanket of attorney "work product" the same way some other stuff we didn't get to hear about did?

 

[The World According]

Do we know if the gal Dom claimed to be speaking to that day in the woods was ever questioned by LE and have a link to the transcript? Or was she deposed by either side? TIA. Could she have turned over to LE some of her correspondence or phone calls or maps Cindy sent her? Could dropping hints to her , hoping she would take the info and run with it have been mom's round about way of getting Dom to the woods without literally telling him? Was it ever in the discovery his and her phone records? I would be more interested in hers since he had various and sundry phones.

 

[Pattymarie]

I also think it has to do with Dominic Casey finally telling all he knows. I can only imagine the extremes that Cindy Anthony went to in order to protect her "mother of the year" daughter in an attempt to preserve the "perfect family" image she had deluded herself into believing.

I don't even know if I would want to know all the disturbing details of what this family has done or would do.

We know Cindy sent Dominic out there. Lee admitted that his mother knew Dominic Casey was out there looking for Caylee before her remains were found... even though Cindy lied about that in her deposition.

I don't even want to think about Cindy going as far as telling Dominic to make sure Caylee was never found. It makes my blood boil thinking about it. Sadly, I wouldn't put it past her or GA and LA.

If Cindy sent Dominic out there...and it could be proven...she better prepare for the rest of HER life in prison...this is unspeakable...

 

[Kentjbkent]

I think there are some gray areas about what is and is not privileged because DC at one time was an agent of Baez's.

Maybe the prosecution wants to discuss with the judge whether or not the new information might also fall under the blanket of attorney "work product" the same way some other stuff we didn't get to hear about did?

I believe this was brought out in a court hearing (the one where JS suggested to SA that they issue an investigative subpoena to DC).

LDB pointed out to JS that they were interested in the timeframe AFTER September when JB and DC no longer had any privelege issues. JS agreed and told JB that he could not be present unless he added DC to his witness list, at which time Baez stated he intended to (but does not appear he has at this point).

But this issue of when and if there was privilege between DC and Baez/KC was discussed at length during this court hearing and it was clearly stated that there was NO formal agreement between them in place when DC searched Suburban Drive.

 

[Kentjbkent]

Do we know if the gal Dom claimed to be speaking to that day in the woods was ever questioned by LE and have a link to the transcript? Or was she deposed by either side? TIA. Could she have turned over to LE some of her correspondence or phone calls or maps Cindy sent her? Could dropping hints to her , hoping she would take the info and run with it have been mom's round about way of getting Dom to the woods without literally telling him? Was it ever in the discovery his and her phone records? I would be more interested in hers since he had various and sundry phones.

I don't recall there ever being any discovery docs in relation to any investigation concerning DC at all, so would have to answer no to your questions.

Your questions WERE posed on Nancy Grace at the time and I believe she even had the psychic girl on the show by phone one night, and the girl originally said she was willing to provide NG with a copy of her phone records, but then later backed off this statement by giving some excuse about it being an account in her father's name or something??? The media began exposing this girl and she disappeared

 

[Just Jayla]

The state has to know that the defense will see this motion, so at the very least, defense knows something is up.
If DC has been interviewed already, this could very well be about him. Perhaps they want to stall because they want time to offer/re-offer immunity to DC, JH or the A's?

I get that the defense will still get to see this eventually, but they also ultimately have the right to a speedy trial, and with JB's wackiness, he could very well challenge any delays the state puts out there. So why not include the defense in this, since they will see it down the road anyway?
Is this something JB could spin if given too much time? That's not thick enough for the judge to keep him out, spin is fair game in this battle....so the ultimate question is, why would the state think they can do this? The basis has to be protective in some way, right?

 

[3doglady]

If this is about DC the new "materials" could be DC's bat phone. Hoover said that DC had several phones and we know CA and LA had a bat phone. It would take a while to subpoena phone records and connect the numbers. When these phones are purchased they are not listed under a name are they?

 

[cyberborg]

And I need to respectfully disagree with you. The information about RK that was released in December did not come out as it would in normal discovery, as a transcribed deposition. The inflammatory allegations JK made were in a heavily edited video interview that was not presented as sworn statement. It went almost directly to the press instead of going to the state first. Additionally, the state was not only not given the interview as discovery and allowed to interview the witness themselves or investigate her claims further, it was prevented from any access to the information about the witness until the day before the check fraud hearing when LDB announced she had finally gotten an email regarding her contact info.

The state has never presented any potentially slanderous material about any witness directly to the public - all of the defamation that has gone on has either been in the press itself or from the general public, and I think that's an important distinction. The press and the public are free to draw conclusions based on the evidence and the reliability of the witness or source, regardless of if it is negative or not.

For people like us, who are involved in investigative forums, it was easy to research the credibility of JK as a source and find her lacking. Her own criminal record, obvious agenda and abrupt reversal toward RK makes her claims suspicious.

So my beef about the defamation has more to do with the way it was directly presented to the public and the circumvention of discovery protocol than it has to do with what JK said. That was not only unprofessional in my view, it was unethical.

(Sorry JB, did not read your comment until too late, but I still feel my point about discovery method is valid)

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[Jolynna]

*** The evidence requires close study, and that is made possible by state-of-the-art testing. “Both sides need to understand it and make good arguments about whether it should come into the trial and whether it means Casey is guilty,” Belich said.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/ent...y+%28TV+Guy%29

Hmmmmm...that is going in a whole different direction and sounds bad for KC.

 

[Leila]

Does anyone remember if Cindy sent a teddy bear of Caylee's and had been talking to the same psychic that Dom said he was speaking to on the phone that day in the woods? I do think this has something to do with Dom. I got the feeling that things were beginning to unravel when I saw George give the blank stare to Cindy in the recent hearing.

I definitely remember that Cindy spoke on the phone with the psychic in another state (Virginia I think), and the psychic said that Cindy sent her one of Caylee's stuffed animals. The psychic was interviewed by Nancy Grace and that's where she said that Cindy sent her one of Caylee's stuffed animals.

I've always thought that claiming the psychic was guiding DC was merely a means to cover the fact that the information was coming directly from Casey, either from Casey to Jose to Cindy to DC or from Casey to Cindy to DC. The psychic hasn't been able to produce phone records showing she was on the phone with DC.

 

[Just Jayla]

Is it possible that this motion is about the ZG/Dora myspace? Maybe they want the delay because they want to see if anyone accesses it again, or they don't want a mad rush to the site with a million friends requests?