Prosecutors New Motion for Private Meeting w/Judge but w/out Defense #2

[Horace Finklestein]

My personal opinion about this is that George finally grew a spine, I think he may have turned over evidence or spoke to LE and changed his statement. I think they are investigating it, but do not want it released at this moment because it could possably mean that they have to bring criminal charges against someone else maybe Cindy.
In My own opinion I beleive that eventually George will accept all this and tell the truth and see Cindy for what she is and see Casey as she is and what she has done.

Other possable ideas I have thought of is maybe they have found evidence that ties someone else to this maybe an accomplice.
Maybe they located another ZFG and are investigating that person, not because they beleive said person is involved but so the defense cant say that the state didn't investigate this ZFG.

These are just a few things I have thought of. I have enjoyed reading everyones ideas on this.

It may be George's last chance to save his soul, so to speak if he could get some kind of immunity and tell what really happened. It would be good for him to get away from Cindy and start over imo.

 

[sleutherontheside]

ROFL Kent! That was so funny!

And y'know...I teach remedial English classes and Composition I at a community college. I bet I could I make it a project in both of those classes for my students to come up with better motions for Baez. Heck, I could probably get my eleven year old stepdaughter to write better motions.

No wait, that would be helping him. Still, I am sorely tempted sometimes...the grammarnazi in me goes CRAZY with some of these motions...

Remedial English.........I would love a thread in the PL that would offer grammatical guidance and a refresher in long forgotten rules. I would visit daily myself. Perhaps we could assign you a large red digital pen to use while proofing posts. :crazy:

 

[LambChop]

ROFL Kent! That was so funny!

And y'know...I teach remedial English classes and Composition I at a community college. I bet I could I make it a project in both of those classes for my students to come up with better motions for Baez. Heck, I could probably get my eleven year old stepdaughter to write better motions.

No wait, that would be helping him. Still, I am sorely tempted sometimes...the grammarnazi in me goes CRAZY with some of these motions...

Question for you Aedrys. In defense's motion on the second page, second paragraph a sentence starts with: "Being that TES....." Is this proper grammar for a legal document? It's been a long time since I've had English but it sounds improper to me. O/T, sorry.

 

[Aedrys]

Sleutherontheside, that would be awesome! A digital red pen, I love it!

And Lampchop, "Being that" is improper grammar for anything, much less a motion. He should use "because" or "since" instead. Either of those would make him sound intelligent, but alas, he refuses to use them.

Why do these people who ignore grammar rules have high paying jobs and I don't? *cries*

 

[LambChop]

Sleutherontheside, that would be awesome! A digital red pen, I love it!

And Lampchop, "Being that" is improper grammar for anything, much less a motion. He should use "because" or "since" instead. Either of those would make him sound intelligent, but alas, he refuses to use them.

Why do these people who ignore grammar rules have high paying jobs and I don't? *cries*

I think students are writing these motions. And that would be fine if an attorney and/or paralegal read them. Both would be a great idea. If they are letting students write the motions I would think they should at least have an "A" average in English. If attorneys are writing them they need a proofreader.

LOL Could you see a motion with a typo such as "Being that my client claims she is not innocent." One word changes everything. JMO

 

[beach]

(b) that the judge wouldn't grant HIS ex parte motions so it would be no fairsies to grant theirs. Well, (a) duh, if you spill the beans in the motion for the ex parte hearing there's not much point in it being ex parte any more...

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i'm not kidding or being snarky when i say this, but i SWEAR i don't know how that man EVER passed the bar exam.

 

[crucibelle]

Thought about it for a while, and I think that these new 'information and materials' are coming from Lee Anthony. Just my opinion.

Edit: OR, since I have thought for a long time that Casey had help disposing of the body, that the person that helped her has come forward. Again, just my opinion and I do realize it's not a popular one. Please don't beat me. lol

Oops.. just had another idea.. maybe it's one of the people that supposedly helped Casey push her car into the Amscot parking lot. Maybe they are afraid, and the SA is trying to protect them.

 

[crucibelle]

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i'm not kidding or being snarky when i say this, but i SWEAR i don't know how that man EVER passed the bar exam.

I have wondered that, myself, many times. I think I heard somewhere that he had to take it several times before he passed, but I am NOT certain that is a fact.

 

[LambChop]

Thought about it for a while, and I think that these new 'information and materials' are coming from Lee Anthony. Just my opinion.

Edit: OR, since I have thought for a long time that Casey had help disposing of the body, that the person that helped her has come forward. Again, just my opinion and I do realize it's not a popular one. Please don't beat me. lol

Oops.. just had another idea.. maybe it's one of the people that supposedly helped Casey push her car into the Amscot parking lot. Maybe they are afraid, and the SA is trying to protect them.

Not sure, I would have to go back and check this out but apparently usually when people push you into a parking lot they just push you in and car stays out of the way but pretty close to the entrance. KC's car was PARKED perfectly next to a dumpster. Almost as if she needed to get rid of the car and anyone coming close to the car might think the smell was coming from the dumpster. At that point she knew it stunk. Don't think the "pushers" would have waited this long to come forward as the trunk area would have smelled pretty bad and they would have noticed. JMO

 

[crucibelle]

Not sure, I would have to go back and check this out but apparently usually when people push you into a parking lot they just push you in and car stays out of the way but pretty close to the entrance. KC's car was PARKED perfectly next to a dumpster. Almost as if she needed to get rid of the car and anyone coming close to the car might think the smell was coming from the dumpster. At that point she knew it stunk. Don't think the "pushers" would have waited this long to come forward as the trunk area would have smelled pretty bad and they would have noticed. JMO

Lambchop -- I didn't think about that, re: the way in which the car was parked. You are correct. Thanks.

 

[lillygator]

when will these be ruled upon and at what point can the Judge say enough already.....

 

[QB.]

Here is defense's objection to the ex parte hearing.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/22545604/detail.html

 

[cyberborg]

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i'm not kidding or being snarky when i say this, but i SWEAR i don't know how that man EVER passed the bar exam.

If you take the exam enough times then the same questions are going to cycle back around ...... :innocent:

 

[Leila]

I wonder if JB realizes that what's so painfully obvious is that it took him nearly a week to raise an objection. Not only that, but he filed that motion without any fanfare - no press conference on the courthouse steps denouncing the prosecution's motion.

I have a mental picture of a deer in the headlights, frozen with fear, not knowing what to do. It seems to me that if JB had confidence that he's acted ethically and hasn't done anything underhanded in his handling of the defense case, he would have filed that motion right away. I see his hesitation to act promptly as a sign of weakness, a lack of confidence.

If he was confident that the prosecution's motion had nothing to do with his handling of the defense case, and believes that the motion pertains to some sort of new evidence, there would be no reason for him to have delayed filing his motion.

 

[The World According]

Here is defense's objection to the ex parte hearing.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/22545604/detail.html

Someone asked what took them so long.
So clever! Exactly. Did you see the swift and sure response from Mr. Nejame when the defense accused him of publishing all the TES records to the journalist? It was righteous indignation. The defense was going to object to the prosecutions motion, of course, immediately, even as a matter of formality. The delay did speak volumes.

Their argument is ...no fair, Dad...you didn't let me play...now you are letting brother play. Whahhh whahhh whaaah.

Does anyone have any guess who or what the defense was trying to subpoena in their request for an ex parte hearing? They said they didn't want to divulge their strategy. Anyone on the state's witness list they had every right to depose, so that narrows down a lot of possibilities ( everyone from LE, former lovers, family members and friends of Casey, the mailman and the meter reader are on that list ). Their motion said they wanted to subpoena certain records that would not be obtained in the normal discovery process ( see page eight )

I cannot understand how the defense thinks what they asked for has any similarity to LE needing time to fully investigate something new. The state is just asking for a little time, not a pass on divulging it. In fact the state was very specific, that they want it all on the record, just sealed, for now. The defense wanted permission for something outside of the rules. What in the world ?

The two requests are very different imo.

Sad, tired and pitiful.

 

[Tiki]

Here is defense's objection to the ex parte hearing.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/22545604/detail.html

AND - he wants the State to turn over any new information immediately.
Has the defense turned over anything at all to the State yet?? - other than the copied State's witness list?

 

[LolaMoon08]

Part of me wants to know so bad what it is the SA doesn't want to release to the defense just yet. It's killing me.

The other part of me knows that they have a reason why they want to hold this information back and I trust that their reason must be very important at this moment.

I still think that it involves DC. The only way I can see that it involves Lee or George finally coming forward and telling the truth is if what DC revealed to the SA involves criminal activity on their part. Which wouldn't surprise me.

I don't think the SA would waste their time trying to get the truth out of Cindy. Cindy would lie till the very end. Like mother like daughter. Just put them in the same cell already and throw away the key. That would be justifiable torture.

 

[kew17]

Someone asked what took them so long.
So clever! Exactly. Did you see the swift and sure response from Mr. Nejame when the defense accused him of publishing all the TES records to the journalist? It was righteous indignation. The defense was going to object to the prosecutions motion, of course, immediately, even as a matter of formality. The delay did speak volumes.

Their argument is ...no fair, Dad...you didn't let me play...now you are letting brother play. Whahhh whahhh whaaah.

Does anyone have any guess who or what the defense was trying to subpoena in their request for an ex parte hearing? They said they didn't want to divulge their strategy. Anyone on the state's witness list they had every right to depose, so that narrows down a lot of possibilities ( everyone from LE, former lovers, family members and friends of Casey are on that list ). Their motion said they wanted to subpoena certain records that would not be obtained in the normal discovery process

I cannot understand how the defense thinks what they asked for has any similarity to LE needing time to fully investigate something new. The state is just asking for a little time, not a pass on divulging it. In fact the state was very specific, that they want it all on the record, just sealed, for now. The defense wanted permission for something outside of the rules. What in the world ?

The two requests are very different imo.

I agree with you TWA, but I was thinking something else a little while ago and want to share. I'm not sure if the delay in JB's response was due to a) duh, what next AL? or b) whatever it is that the SAO has is most likely detrimental to the defense and will probably make them look worse (if that's possible).

I'm thinking they don't want the "new material" outted any more than they wanted the info from their ex-parte request outted. The difference I see between the two ex-parte requests is that the defense indicated their info was NOT discoverable and the SAO's request indicate that their material IS discoverable material. It's going to come out one way or another.

Hold on to your hat JB....sometimes you may get what you wish or ask for!!!

 

[Nore]

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i'm not kidding or being snarky when i say this, but i SWEAR i don't know how that man EVER passed the bar exam.

beach2yall, trust me you have a lot of company.

 

[CarolinaMoon]

I have wondered that, myself, many times. I think I heard somewhere that he had to take it several times before he passed, but I am NOT certain that is a fact.

IIRC, he passed the bar exam first time 'round, it took him 8 years to meet up with other bar standards for being admitted. One issue was failure to pay child support, another that he was driving fancy cars while not paying child support.