Ramsey Friend, Member of "Small Foreign Faction", Was Never Investigated

[BlueCrab]

Well, it looks like DocWatson is no longer on the WS membership list.

I wish he would have stayed long enough to answer my questions posed to him on a post earlier on this thread:

1. Were you the BlueCrab imposter on Jameson's forum last week?

2. Are you Nathan Inouye?

JMO

 

[Camper]

Well, it looks like DocWatson is no longer on the WS membership list.

I wish he would have stayed long enough to answer my questions posed to him on a post earlier on this thread:

1. Were you the BlueCrab imposter on Jameson's forum last week?

2. Are you Nathan Inouye?

JMO

----------------->>>Now that Doc seems to have been colored gone gone, I seem to recall that he mostly replied to posts by you, BlueCrab. He responded to me one time only that I remember. Do any of the rest of posters here on JonBenet, remember him responding to you???

So, IF IF I am correct in my memory, it would seem that he had a real bone to pick with BlueCrab.

I could have checked his posts, but now they are gone, gone.

Bingo or shall we check our cards again?

Wonder IF IF he kept his movie stub? Nah probably not.




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[BlueCrab]

I don't believe Burke would have held to lies and secrets in an interview ,by a professional, designed to uncover inconsistencies. There is the hole in this theory, IMO.

sissi,

IMO Burke knows everything. But it apparently hasn't been easy for him to continue with the lies and to withhold the secrets, but he did. The counseling Burke has received in the past has also likely helped him to keep it together.

In June of 1998 the Ramseys, including Burke, were interviewed separately for three days by the police. Burke was 11 by then. Here's Patsy being interviewed by Tom Haney:

TOM HANEY: " ... but have you seen changes in Burke since the incident?"

PATSY RAMSEY: "Um, he's grown like a weed. I think he's a little more cautious, you know, looking around, see if anybody is parked where they shouldn't be parked. You know, locks the door when he comes in and goes out. You know, those kinds of things."

TOM HANEY: "How about with the moving and all of that, has that caused some problems for him, change of schools?"

PATSY RAMSEY: "Yeah. And I have been in touch with the counselors and the teachers and everybody, alert to this. And they said that -- they are remarkably surprised at how well he is doing. He just makes friends and gets good grades."

TOM HANEY: "So his adjustment's been pretty ..."

PATSY RAMSEY: "Been pretty good."

TOM HANEY: "You mentioned I think when I asked you yesterday, had you seen an interview from last week with Burke. You said no?"

PATSY RAMSEY: "No."

TOM HANEY: "There were like three days, and the first two days were pretty basic questions, but on the third day, there were questions where the discussion was around JonBenet and the death. And I am no psychologist, psychiatrist, but immediately noticed a change in Burke and his demeanor. He's curled up on the chair something like this, not sitting like this, and he's half in a fetal position and it seems to be a real struggle, a real difficult time. I am wondering if you had noticed anything similar, any changes?"

PATSY RAMSEY: "Well, I may have -- I have had him in therapy just for this reason. So that, I mean, the therapist explained to me that -- that Burke may be trying to hold it together and be real strong for John and I, you know."

TOM HANEY: "Does it seem like he knows more than he's saying, and obviously he's not saying much?

PATSY RAMSEY: "Right."

JMO

BlueCrab

 

[Jayelles]

Well, it looks like DocWatson is no longer on the WS membership list.

I wish he would have stayed long enough to answer my questions posed to him on a post earlier on this thread:

1. Were you the BlueCrab imposter on Jameson's forum last week?

2. Are you Nathan Inouye?

JMO

BlueCrab, jameson posted the BlueCrab imposter's IP numbers on her forum, but deleted them again rather quickly. I have to go out right now, but in an hour or so, I shall PM them to you and you can check them out for yourself (I'll send you instructions for doing this).

 

[Camper]

Good for you Jayelles. Hope you can narrow down our suspicious person BlueCrab.

Note: Several years ago a poster was doing me dirt, and it was determined that the poster was going a circuitous route through several ISP's to hide their identity.

'Our' BlueCrab imposter might not have been so savvy, good luck.

Interesting last comment by Patsy in the transcript.

Yes someone besides the 'drooling' perp knows more than they are saying. Even Patsy said so in the famous CNN broadcast after the murder. Something to the effect, that at least two people know something. I remember this, but do not have the exact verbage. Anyone feel free to quote her comment precisely please.

So HOW would PR know that well enough to pronounce it to a Global audience?

Our BIG question here on WS is just WHO is it that KNOWS the 'truth'.




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[BlueCrab]

Well, it looks like DocWatson is no longer on the WS membership list.

I wish he would have stayed long enough to answer my questions posed to him on a post earlier on this thread:

1. Were you the BlueCrab imposter on Jameson's forum last week?

2. Are you Nathan Inouye?

JMO

Here's what is known so far in regard to the two questions posed to DocWatson:

1. Were you the BlueCrab imposter on Jameson's forum last week? The answer appears to be YES, there is evidence that points to DocWatson as the imposter.

2. Are you Nathan Inouye? The answer appears to be NO, unless Nathan was not in California at that time (last weekend). The BlueCrab imposter's five different ISP's were from North Carolina and Virginia. The most significant one was from Duke University in Durham, NC, which normally only students and faculty would have access to.

It would take a court subpoenae to further identify exactly what computers the BlueCrab imposter used to make his posts.

Thank you, Jayelles, in helping substantially with this.

BlueCrab

JMO

 

[BlueCrab]

Here's what is known so far in regard to the two questions posed to DocWatson:

1. Were you the BlueCrab imposter on Jameson's forum last week? The answer appears to be YES, there is evidence that points to DocWatson as the imposter.

2. Are you Nathan Inouye? The answer appears to be NO, unless Nathan was not in California at that time (last weekend). The BlueCrab imposter's five different ISP's were from North Carolina and Virginia. The most significant one was from Duke University in Durham, NC, which normally only students and faculty would have access to.

It would take a court subpoena to further identify exactly what computers the BlueCrab imposter used to make his posts.

Thank you, Jayelles, in helping substantially with this.

BlueCrab

JMO

It appears that the imposter BlueCrab (most likely DocWatson) probably posted his fraudulent messages from Duke University. There are, incidentally, two Inouye's at Duke:

Ronald B. Inouye is a PhD candidate in computer science.

Ken Inouye is involved in D.U.M.E. on the campus (Duke University Music Exchange).

JMO

 

[Camper]

As church lady (Dana Carvey) would say, "Now isn't that interesting".

Wonder what/which/whose computer Doc is using to read here, now that he is no longer a member?

The name ***** as populated in America might be rather small, who knows. BUT, and there is always a BUT, I find it strange that this particular Doc-found it impelling to rebut the ***** connection to the murder of JonBenet.

You could perhaps believe it to be an ongoing opinion by the phony Bluecrab, IF IF IF IF he/she had been an OLDTIMER WS poster.

BUT to show up recently when our thoughts have turned to the EXACT location and activities of one ***** I, on December 26, 1996, seems to have great weight to the case, in my mind at least.

:clap: :clap: to WS BlueCrab, keep it going!



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[Miss Daisey]

Camper,

I agree. One might consider a Jones,Brown,Smith or Black....but an Inouye is just too much of a coinsidence. IMO

 

[TLynn]

How can Patsy NOT remember if Burke went with her to the Stine's door on Christmas night?

And, whose house did they not make it to - I remember there was another basket not delivered that night.

 

[BlueCrab]

How can Patsy NOT remember if Burke went with her to the Stine's door on Christmas night?

And, whose house did they not make it to - I remember there was another basket not delivered that night.

TLynn,

You're right, of course Patsy remembered. She was using Patsyese when responding to the question so as not to be pinned down later. It's Patsy's MO when being questioned.

The Ramseys didn't make it to the Fernie's house -- the third stop they had planned after leaving the White's house. Their excuse was it was getting too late.

JMO

 

[Camper]

TLynn,

You're right, of course Patsy remembered. She was using Patsyese when responding to the question so as not to be pinned down later. It's Patsy's MO when being questioned.

The Ramseys didn't make it to the Fernie's house -- the third stop they had planned after leaving the White's house. Their excuse was it was getting too late.

JMO

--------->>>I prefer my coined word of about 7 years ago, Ramnesia. OK TLynn, do WE remember what it was that was not delivered, was it a coffee assortment? In other words a gift that would not spoil when left to be delivered AFTER they returned from MI? My memory is dim on what the gifts were.

A tiny review here, I think this is a MIGHTY tidbit, that Burke remembers and states JonBenet WALKED up the stairs Christmas night when the 'family' returned from the Whites, and John remembers and states that he lovingly carried JonBenet up the stairs when the family returned from the Whites.

Ramnesia, had already infected Burke, no no no, IMOP, Burke said that because he was NOT with the family when they returned home that night.



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[BlueCrab]

A RECAP OF THIS THREAD

Here's what we have so far as I see it:


1. Not until almost four years after the murder of JonBenet Ramsey by people purporting to be representing members of a "small foreign faction", do the cops find out that Ramsey family friend ***** *****, a member of such a group, even existed.

2. ***** ***** was a member of the 29-member Asian Pacific American Coalition at Colorado University, also known as APAC. APAC had a politically liberal pro-active agenda that could be interpreted as wanting to avenge what it perceived as unfair justice afforded Asian American females who have been victims of violence in America. JonBenet's body, with likely stun gun injuries on it, showed evidence of her having been tortured. APAC disbanded several weeks after JonBenet was murdered.

3. ***** ***** babysat, drove JonBenet to school, knew the layout of the Ramsey house, and lived at the home of the Stines. The Ramseys and Stines were best friends, as were their respective sons Burke and Doug.

4. At least as of August of 2000 neither ***** ***** nor any of the 29 members of APAC had been known about, much less investigated by the police.

5. It was discovered that Susannah Chase, murdered on the street in Boulder one year after JonBenet was murdered, was a long distance runner. Susannah had been run down and battered on the head with a child's aluminum baseball bat. A child's aluminum baseball bat, found in the Ramsey's yard, could also have been the weapon that split JonBenet's skull in two. ***** *****, like Susannah, was a long distance runner.

6. A poster on WS who went by the name of DocWatson, and before that went by the name of DrC, showed intense defensive interest when ***** ***** and APAC were discussed on WS. This interest progressed to apparent desperation when someone, and the evidence points to DocWatson, fraudulently assumed the name of BlueCrab, claimed he was me, and made numerous posts on another forum saying BlueCrab believed just the opposite of what he had been posting for years on the WS forum.

7. The posts from the fake BlueCrab were traced to an ISP on the campus of Duke University in Durham, NC. There are two *****'s on the campus at Duke -- Ronald ***** and Ken *****. ***** ***** lives and works in California.

JMO

 

[Camper]

of my mind I am remembering that Pasta Jay chased two innocent locals with a ball bat, because the thought they were media. I am also dimly remembering that somewhere I read that a 'ball bat' was kept in the Pasta Jay restaurant to threaten roudy customers. Does anyone remember that tidbit?

Certainly ex CU young student employees of Pasta Jay's would remember that. Perhaps a childs size bat would have been more appropriate for such a purpose in that type of setting.

As I recall also the alley access to Pasta Jay's was from the same alley that Susanna Chase ran in the night she was murdered.

Anyone have printed material to back my memory up on this?
Wonder how late Pasta Jays was open the night of Susanna's murder? OR how long closing clean up took that night, and who might have been on duty that night IF IF IF they were open late. IT was a festive graduation celebration time in Boulder, so perhaps they might have stayed open later in the evening.

ALSO where did the employees of Pasta Jays park their cars? IF IF the murderer was a fast runner, and had to go get their car, where was it, how close? Of course then we have to wonder just where the car is TODAY.





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[BlueCrab]

With respect to tying the 1996 JonBenet Ramsey murder to the 1997 Susannah Chase murder, Boulder authorities need go no further than the DNA route.

The police now have what is likely the DNA of JonBenet's killer; and they have the DNA of Susannah Chase's killer. I hope they've made the comparison between the two by this time.

Nevertheless, IMO it wouldn't hurt to obtain DNA samples of the 29 members of the Asian Pacific American Coalition. APAC's sudden disbandment almost immediately following the murder of JonBenet is especially suspicious.

JMO

 

[Nehemiah]

BlueCrab, jameson posted the BlueCrab imposter's IP numbers on her forum, but deleted them again rather quickly. I have to go out right now, but in an hour or so, I shall PM them to you and you can check them out for yourself (I'll send you instructions for doing this).

Jayelles, just curious as to why she would post these and then delete them? What reasoning is behind that?

 

[Jayelles]

Jayelles, just curious as to why she would post these and then delete them? What reasoning is behind that?

I would be speculating only. It could be that she was demonstrating respect for posters' privacy - although I doubt that as she has posted IPs before. OTOH, it could be that she realised that another forum might recognise the IP. I really don't know. She also posted my IP at the same time. That was interesting because I checked it out of curiosity and it showed up as me being in Amsterdam! I thought "New Year was good, but it wasn't THAT good - I think I would have remembered the journey...." So I checked it using a different Whois service and it correctly came up as me being in the South of England (which I am not, but my ISP is).

 

[Camper]

Jayelles, just curious as to why she would post these and then delete them? What reasoning is behind that?

--------->>>>Nehemiah, maybe she had a pang of conscience and wanted to prove that 'she' was not the imposter, nah, huh, er.

She should have learned the courtesy route by now, and that would be IF IF IF 'WE' all wanted our REAL identities known to every flake on the planet 'WE' would use our REAL names instead of our nice hats.

I have a very olde hat here on WS.

Wonder HOW long the new DNA process has been in existence, glad someone in Boulder got hip to it.

Yes the two DNA's matching would indeed be a BINGO.




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[BlueCrab]

Please do not speculate about the identity of another poster.

 

[Camper]

I missed the deleted post, thats what I get for spending the day out of town attending a birthday party.

To all posters in general, since posting on WS for so many years, any case that I worked on, IF IF IF I thought I had a brilliant point that could turn a case around, I have not hesitated to send the information to Law Enforcement, RATHER THAN POST IT ON THE FORUM.

The title of this thread was just enough to alert someone with Law Enforcement authority on something to INVESTIGATE.

Governor Owens has letters from me on this case, I have received responses from LE and the Gov. Gov response has always been a bobbling head type of form letter. My other case 'thoughts' have been responded to with the name of the detective who was given my information.

I am always suspicious about NEWBIE posters who have made 'few' posts, newbies with attitudes. It is so close to Christmas, some folks no doubt have NEW puters and come running to the JonBenet forum to voice their thoughts.

Right now I have a suspicion about a NEW poster who I believe may be an olde poster re-invented, with a new hat and strange 'attitude'.

Life goes on, but NOT JonBenets. This forum is about JonBenet. Lets not let her be lost in the muddle of someone that came 'NEW' with an agenda. SOMEONE DID in fact KILL JonBenet, WHO?

Where there is smoke, beware of fire.




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