Rape allegations mount against Bill Cosby #2

[Disguiseduser0308]

From above link:

"Rashad said Wednesday night that another comment attributed to her — “Forget these women” — was a misquote."

Not such a great attempt at a backpedal there, IMO.

Per the same link -- “What I said is this is not about the women ... this is about the obliteration of a legacy,”
Yes, Rashad, in essence you're saying forget these women when you state their rape allegations are not about them. I'm willing to bet the farm her original statement was true and fact and that she was advised to changed it after some much deserved backlash. What she didn't realize? Her second statement isn't much better.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Dear Phylicia Rashad:

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt."

You're welcome.

 

[monkey222]

That the three new ladies came forward today, AFTER, BC's lawyers said they would be investigating the accusers' backgrounds, is quite remarkable. The intimidation tactic failed.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

There has been a romanticization of both Cosby and Cosby that reeks of arrogance and delusion. Despite what Rashad and others may believe, Cosby isn’t the savior of black America, and the Illuminati isn’t out to get him. The Cosby Show was not then, and certainly isn’t now, the only media depiction of a healthy black family. And the dismantling of Cosby’s benign, fatherly facade is a blow to nothing but his own image and 1980s nostalgia.

What has become glaring by omission is that while Cosby’s previously silent female supporters—including his wife, Camille Cosby; Cosby star Keshia Knight Pulliam; Debbie Allen, Rashad’s sister and former director-producer of Cosby spin-off A Different World; and now Rashad—have defended Cosby’s “legacy” both in media and philanthropy, none has attempted to defend the character of the man himself.

Rashad didn’t say, “Bill Cosby is an honorable man.” She didn’t say, “Bill Cosby is not capable of rape.” She instead evoked the memory of The Cosby Show and used it as a talisman to ward off any negative attention directed at her former co-star.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2015/01/cosby_s_legacy_isn_t_the_issue_phylicia_rashad.html

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Stop Before You Attack Phylicia Rashad

I am very dismayed by the attacks I’m seeing on Phylicia Rashad. She spoke to me reluctantly, and did not want to become part of the media grinder. She was defending her friend, and I encouraged her. Frankly, no matter what Gloria Allred, Janice Dickinson or Beverly Johnson says, everything leveled at Bill Cosby is just an allegation. There are no police records, no arrests, convictions, trials, etc.

http://www.showbiz411.com/2015/01/0...re-you-attack-her-bill-cosby-could-be-anybody

Well Roger, if she didn't want to become part of the media grinder, why did you shove her into it?

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Clearing Up What Phylicia Rashad Said

There was NEVER the meaning in ‘Forget those women’ that she was saying to actually forget or dismiss then. She meant, ‘those women aside’– as in, she’s not talking about that

http://www.showbiz411.com/2015/01/07/clearing-up-what-phylicia-rashad-said-meant-and-how-i-wrote-it

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I don't think I can possibly roll my eyes any harder than this. Smear campaign?? GMAB.

I would love love LOVE for someone to lay out the anatomy of the Bill Cosby Smear Campaign. How the H--- does someone orchestrate such a smear campaign, and get such full cooperation from all the players? Please, people, there has to be some critical thinking involved here, imo, its not enough to say "it's some kind of conspiracy" if you can't describe how such a conspiracy could happen. What is the motive? Who is behind it? How does someone convince multiple women to lie? Have they all been bribed to lie? Have they all been blackmailed? When was this so-called smear campaign plotted? in 2014? Did it begin with Andrea Constand's lawsuit in 2006? Or with miscellaneous media appearances or articles over the years, ranging from the National Enquirer to the Today Show? Was this a slow-speed smear campaign that only now has gained momentum?

If you think it through, it makes no sense to call it a smear campaign or a conspiracy.

imo

See, this is the thing. It's ridiculously easy to say it's all a conspiracy. Explaining why, who, and most important to me, how, is apparently so difficult that I haven't seen a single person, on websleuths or anywhere else, attempt it.

On top of that, there are two reasons this exploded into the media last fall: 1) Hannibal Burress's routine and 2) Cosby's twitter inviting people to "meme him" which backfired horribly.

Given #2, the only logical conclusion is that the conspiracy is so deep and well-organized that the conspirators have even infiltrated Cosby's own publicists.

 

[Charlie09]

Dear Phylicia Rashad:

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt."

You're welcome.

Interesting that first the complaint was why won't his co-stars speak up for him...now it's not in lock step so - she's a fool.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Interesting that first the complaint was why won't his co-stars speak up for him...now it's not in lock step so - she's a fool.

I'm not sure if this is directed at me or just my post, but I don't think I have ever complained about his co-stars not speaking up for him. What could they say that could possibly settle the matter one way or another? "I never saw him rape anyone?" As if rapists commit their crimes publicly, in front of their coworkers. "I never saw anything to indicate he was capable of that behavior"? Acceptable but proves nothing.

Better to stay silent.

However, claiming this is all an "orchestrated" conspiracy? The words of a fool. If one is going to allege such a conspiracy, one should present some evidence or proof.

After all, those doubting the accusers have said that if one is going to claim rape, one should present some evidence or proof.

Goose, gander.

 

[margarita25]

I believe nothing from Oprah. Zero. She, IMO, has been a VERY bad influence on our country.

I love Oprah :heart:
jmo

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I believe nothing from Oprah. Zero. She, IMO, has been a VERY bad influence on our country.

I missed this post until it was just now quoted.

I'm not a big fan of hers myself, but I wouldn't go so far to say she has been a very bad influence on our country.

I would love to hear more about why you think this, but I don't want to get the thread off topic. Frustrating!

ETA for clarification: I can't think she's important enough to have that much influence over our country.

 

[wendiesan]

Show went on in Kitchener. Lots of people dumping their tickets.
No protesters disrupted the show.
Warm receptions for Cosby by fans.
No mention of the allegations by Cosby from the stage.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitch...ner-despite-sex-assault-allegations-1.2892103

 

[IndianSummer]

Not such a great attempt at a backpedal there, IMO.

Per the same link -- “What I said is this is not about the women ... this is about the obliteration of a legacy,”
Yes, Rashad, in essence you're saying forget these women when you state their rape allegations are not about them. I'm willing to bet the farm her original statement was true and fact and that she was advised to changed it after some much deserved backlash. What she didn't realize? Her second statement isn't much better.

Indeed!
This is about HER...the show's legacy & reruns IMO.
You see...If his legacy is obliterated it reflects on HER Claire Huxtable legacy.

JMO

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

A cynical attempt to restore his good-guy image? Bill Cosby projects a picture of himself with Nelson Mandela at stand-up show - but ploy fails as he's greeted by empty seats, protestors and hecklers

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ter-shouts-hope-consensual.html#ixzz3ODLWVNr1

 

[KEVINinTO]

Bill Cosby's private aircraft. You can track Cosby on Flightaware.com!

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N712BC

Yesterday Cosby flew from (one of) his home in Montague MA to Kitchener Ontario. After the show he flew to London Ontario

 

[Donjeta]

The Cosby Show was important of course but is it such a legacy that it should give anyone immunity from all criminal allegations? If you create a funny sitcom that was of some cultural importance then everyone should just shut up and protect your legacy if you happen to serially rape women?

Rashad scoffed at the claims of models Beverly Johnson and Janice Dickinson, in particular, and defended the integrity of Cosby's wife Camille, saying there's no way she simply looked the other way while her husband supposedly forced himself on scores of women.

"This is a tough woman, a smart woman. She's no pushover."

http://www.freep.com/story/life/peo...sby-abuse-claims-forget-these-women/21376131/

Well but she wasn't there most of the time when the alleged attacks happened, and the alleged victims were mostly silent about it at the time so how would she have known anyway? I doubt he came home from his gigs and said, hi darling, how was your day, I drugged and raped two girls today. What about the apparently documented consensual extramarital affairs? She seems to have looked the other way about a lot of that. Any chance they had an arrangement where he was granted some freedom to womanize?

 

[wendiesan]

Maybe, back in the day, the cast and crew was kept busy trying to prevent news about Cosby's temper from leaking to the press. There was a danger of the information spoiling his image and damaging the show that was their livelihood.

Cosby’s violent temper had erupted on the set of The Cosby Show at the end of the first season. Frustrated during rehearsal, Cosby directed his anger at a cameraman he thought was slacking off. ‘Cosby grabbed the technician and looked as if he was going to take a swing at him until Ahmad Rashad, who was dating [Cosby’s TV wife,] Phylicia Ayers-Allen and was visiting the set, stepped into restrain him’.

‘Cosby was so furious that he couldn't control himself. He slipped around Hefner and punched Smothers in the head from behind, so hard that the smaller comedian fell to the ground.
‘C’mon, I’ll kick your ’! he shouted at Smothers’…Hef separated the two men and it was the talk of the town by morning.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2757889/Bill-Cosby-vile-temper-punched-comic-Tommy-Smothers

 

[Slebby]

http://www.vox.com/2015/1/8/7513119/phylicia-rashad-cosby-rape


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[BirdycatNY]

PERFORMANCE
Cosby clamps down on smartphones in London
The London Free Press
Thursday, January 8, 2015 8:07:42 EST PM
http://www.lfpress.com/2015/01/08/comedian-bill-cosby-takes-stage-at-budwesier-gardens-in-london

From the article (tweets), it looks like BC made joke re: drinks/allegations, yikes.

http://www.lfpress.com/2015/01/08/comedian-bill-cosby-takes-stage-at-budwesier-gardens-in-london

 

[Leilei]

And here's another one...

http://uproxx.com/webculture/2015/01/bill-cosby-heckler-drinking-joke-awkward/

Bill, when people wanted to hear you speak about the allegations, I don't think this is quite what they meant.