Rape allegations mount against Bill Cosby #3

[wendiesan]

The attorney for Andrea Constand, the first woman whose sexual abuse allegations against Bill Cosby went public a decade ago, has filed a new motion in federal court denying Constand violated their confidentiality agreement after a 2006 settlement and denying she consented to being drugged and sexually assaulted by him...Last week, Cosby's lawyer filed a motion asking for sanctions against Troiani, claiming that Troiani violated the confidentiality agreement with her court filings. He also claimed Constand's Tweets (including the words "Yes!" and "Sir!" after parts of the deposition were unsealed) and quotes she gave the Toronto Sun violated the terms of their agreement. Troiani contends that Constand was "ambushed" by the reporter and that Constand's Tweets were sent "during the time period that there was extensive publicity about gay marriage."

http://www.people.com/article/bill-cosby-accuser-andrea-constand-gay-court-filing

 

[wendiesan]

The people who feared retribution from the moralizing Cosby had good reason to do so.

Janis Ian, as a 16 year old singer/songwriter, had a hit with her powerful, though controversial, song "Society's Child". Exhausted by touring, frightened by daily death threats, tired out during the shoot, she had fallen asleep in the arms of her chaperone off set during the shooting of the Smothers' Brothers show in which she appeared.

Understandably exhausted by all the touring and the TV appearance, after the taping, she fell asleep in her chaperone’s lap. Some time later, after Ian had returned to New York and gone back to school, her manager called Ian into her office and demanded to know what had happened at the Smothers Brothers taping. Her manager informed her that “no one else on TV is willing to have you on,” apparently because Cosby had seen Ian asleep in her chaperone’s lap and had told other shows that she wasn’t “suitable family entertainment,” that she “was probably a lesbian, and shouldn’t be on television.”

Cosby’s attempted blacklisting didn’t end up hurting Ian too much — Johnny Carson and his producer didn’t listen and invited Ian on their show anyway — but it’s still yet another weird, gross story about a man whose depths of grossness seemingly know no bounds.

Ian’s full account, excerpted from her FB page, follows the article.
http://www.stereogum.com/1819719/janis-ian-shares-traumatic-personal-story-about-bill-cosby/news/

So, was BC just upset by seeing a sleeping girl being protected by slightly older woman as a lesbian, therefore unfit for families to watch?
Or had he been rebuffed by the chaperone who was protecting the young Janis Ian from a local predator?
Or had the fact that this girl at 16, and her chaperone, were having a great time with Jimmy Durante, Pat Paulsen, Mason Williams and Tom and Dick Smothers without needing his approval?

 

[IndianSummer]

Fox spellchecks:
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...l-queues-but-accuser-was-lesbian-docs-reveal/
Bill Cosby claimed he could 'read' sexual queues, but accuser was a lesbian, docs reveal

He's about as smart as a cup of warm hair.

 

[Donjeta]

I like this lawyer:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ealize-key-accuser-was-gay-new-documents-say/

Genius seducer Bill Cosby didn’t realize key accuser was gay, new documents say

“In his narcississtic view of the world, Defendant believes that Plaintiff’s every tweet must be about him,” the documents read. “He is as perceptive in this belief as he claims to be in his interpretation of non-verbal cues from women he wants to seduce. The tweets do not include any hash tags and were sent during the time period that there was extensive publicity about gay marriage.”

Then came the burn: “As defendant admits in his deposition, despite his talent for interpreting female reactions to him, he did not realize Plaintiff was gay until the police told him.”

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertai...rk-magazine-rape-allegations-doubters/399758/
The Justice Bill Cosby’s Accusers Can’t Receive
Even with the overwhelming recent New York cover story, the women pay a price for speaking out.

Yes, it’s a bad idea to use the ugliest comments and social-media statements as gauges of public opinion. Yes, by responding to trolls, you amplify them. And yes, the overwhelming response to the New York story has, rightly, been concern for the women and scorn for Cosby. Still, it bears noting: Every semi-anonymous Internet user attacking the accusers is a symbol of why Cosby may have acted with impunity for so long, and of one more thing he may have cost each of these women.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...sby--give--deposition--september-30/30811883/

Allred says on Tuesday, a judge in Santa Monica, Calif., stated he will set a date by the end of the week for Cosby to give a deposition in the civil suit filed by Huth.

Allred, who represents 17 Cosby accusers, says the judge ordered that Cosby's deposition, to be given under oath, will come no later than Sept. 30. Huth will also be deposed.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...n-used-playboy-connections-to-facilitate-his/

“Playboy had a duty to provide a safe and hostile-free workplace for the Bunnies,” Terrell told FOX411. “The victims have the burden to establish knowledge on the part of Playboy. For example, did any of the victims [complain] to management about Mr. Cosby?”

Attorney Julian Chan added, "A host owes a duty of care to their guests, to provide a safe environment."

Terrell noted that like any other defendant, Playboy would be protected by the statute of limitations should a case be brought.

http://abc13.com/entertainment/cosby-accuser-says-she-was-raped-in-chicago-hotel-/889002/

Masten said she told her supervisor at the time.

"She told me, 'Well, you know that Bill Cosby is Hefner's best friend, right? Nobody's going to believe you. I suggest you shut your mouth,'" Masten said.

Decades later, Masten says of the magazine cover featuring 35 women and an empty chair: "I want them to look at that empty seat and know there are hundreds of women lined up to take it."

http://mic.com/articles/122974/bill-cosby-doesn-t-think-he-s-a-rapist-here-s-why-that-matters

At this point, most rational people would call Cosby a rapist. Except, probably, for Cosby.

"He viewed himself as a good person, worthy of trust and chivalrous," the New York Times reported after reviewing the deposition. Regarding consent, Cosby said while under oath, "I think that I'm a pretty decent reader of people and their emotions in these romantic sexual things." He later admitted to using quaaludes "the same as a person would say, 'Have a drink.'"

There is the person we really are, and there is the story we tell about ourselves. Cosby's story of himself is not of a serial violator of women but a successful man women invariably wanted, and to whom certain things — among them women's bodies — were owed.

 

[bluesneakers]

He's about as smart as a cup of warm hair.

I'm stealing this one. Not just to use for Bill Cosby but for anyone who is dumber than a bag of hammers.

 

[Donjeta]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...more-about-the-people-who-enabled-bill-cosby/

Part of what’s made the unraveling of Bill Cosby’s reputation so shocking is the fact that it took so long for his accusers to be granted a public hearing. I can understand anyone who feels exhausted and dismayed by the decades it took for the conversation about Cosby’s reputation to go public. But if we want to achieve a meaningful reform of Hollywood’s sexual culture, it’s not enough to simply examine Cosby’s behavior and reputation. We need to know who enabled Cosby; whether there were doctors other than the late Leroy Amar who wrote him prescriptions for drugs; and what NBC executives knew about Cosby’s behavior when he was in the network’s employ.

And we need to know more about the agents who introduced women to Cosby, what they expected would happen after those introductions, and what the agencies who employed them knew about their conduct. Just because a powerful man like Bill Cosby wants sex on demand doesn’t mean that agents and agencies should act as pimps.

 

[Inthedetails]

Have we mentioned lately what an arrogant creep this guy is? I'll take care of it.

What an arrogant creep.

 

[mister happy]

Have we mentioned lately what an arrogant creep this guy is? I'll take care of it.

What an arrogant creep.

Arrogant creep may be an understatement...

http://deadspin.com/bill-cosby-once-publicly-bullied-a-notre-dame-football-1661325778

http://deadspin.com/the-nd-player-bill-cosby-berated-felt-like-a-failure-fo-1661591222

 

[Goose22]

The people who feared retribution from the moralizing Cosby had good reason to do so.

Janis Ian, as a 16 year old singer/songwriter, had a hit with her powerful, though controversial, song "Society's Child". Exhausted by touring, frightened by daily death threats, tired out during the shoot, she had fallen asleep in the arms of her chaperone off set during the shooting of the Smothers' Brothers show in which she appeared.



Ian’s full account, excerpted from her FB page, follows the article.
http://www.stereogum.com/1819719/janis-ian-shares-traumatic-personal-story-about-bill-cosby/news/

So, was BC just upset by seeing a sleeping girl being protected by slightly older woman as a lesbian, therefore unfit for families to watch?
Or had he been rebuffed by the chaperone who was protecting the young Janis Ian from a local predator?
Or had the fact that this girl at 16, and her chaperone, were having a great time with Jimmy Durante, Pat Paulsen, Mason Williams and Tom and Dick Smothers without needing his approval?

Not sure if this has been brought up but I find it really interesting that Janis Ian is the name of a character in the movie Mean Girls, written by Tina Fey who has brought up the accusations of Bill Cosby in her other work. In the movie Janis is not a mean girl- she was a girl who used to be friends with the main mean girl until the mean girl spread the rumor that Janis was a lesbian.

 

[LinasK]

According to the tabloid I scanned today at the drugstore, he's suicidal.:boohoo::boohoo::boohoo:
Now maybe he gets a taste of how the women feel/felt after his actions!

 

[bluesneakers]

Arrogant creep may be an understatement...

http://deadspin.com/bill-cosby-once-publicly-bullied-a-notre-dame-football-1661325778

http://deadspin.com/the-nd-player-bill-cosby-berated-felt-like-a-failure-fo-1661591222

I'd forgotten about that. What an arrogant *******.

And this was after he'd had his personal awakening about grades and dyslexia. Wtf is he to judge??

 

[carolbell]

I was talking about Bill Cosby at retirement home when a little old lady popped up and said " that man,he need a whole box of viagra." A little humor in the situation.

 

[Tulessa]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...o-give-a-deposition-by-september-30/30811883/

Lawyer: Cosby to be deposed by Sept. 30

 

[wendiesan]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ed-bill-cosby/
Part of what’s made the unraveling of Bill Cosby’s reputation so shocking is the fact that it took so long for his accusers to be granted a public hearing. I can understand anyone who feels exhausted and dismayed by the decades it took for the conversation about Cosby’s reputation to go public. But if we want to achieve a meaningful reform of Hollywood’s sexual culture, it’s not enough to simply examine Cosby’s behavior and reputation. We need to know who enabled Cosby; whether there were doctors other than the late Leroy Amar who wrote him prescriptions for drugs; and what NBC executives knew about Cosby’s behavior when he was in the network’s employ. And we need to know more about the agents who introduced women to Cosby, what they expected would happen after those introductions, and what the agencies who employed them knew about their conduct. Just because a powerful man like Bill Cosby wants sex on demand doesn’t mean that agents and agencies should act as pimps.

Excerpted from Donjeta's post #766
my bolds

I'm taking issue with the author's statement which I've highlighted. This particular rapist, BC, was part of the Hollywood business elite, but the culture that promoted the silencing of rape victims and the protection of rapists is not geographically limited by that city's boundaries. Not by a long shot. My concern is that the larger picture will be ignored, as though this is a "Hollywood" problem, and politicians will point their fingers at "show business" perverts, and behave as though the subject of sexual predation is linked to only one place, one profession, and one community. That BC is an isolated incident unconnected with such things at the Steubenville rape. IMO, the hostility which met the women who have come forward to accuse BC of abusing them exists in every community in the world, sadly even here in North America. The tendency to disbelieve the accuser and to give a pass to the alleged perpetrator continues to exist everywhere.

The prejudice against trusting women is monolithic. It's the shield that has protected sexual predators and other abusers for millenia and it continues today in the policies being implemented against the well being of women, girls and boys.

I hope I'm wrong, and that the BC scandal will actually result in changes within the legal structure and the subsequent law enforcement policies so that victims of sexual aggression and abuse and violence will be allowed to have their voices heard.

 

[bluesneakers]

In my cynical opinion it's not going to get fixed in Hollywood until it gets fixed elsewhere. As it is now, there's too much money at risk. Cosby made a lot of people rich so they kept their mouths shut, looked the other way, and ignored the facts. If the rest of us (imo) didn't stand for it and stopped watching his show or going to his shows it would have caught someone's attention. But we didn't, because in our culture it's tradition to blame the women and move on. That's what we're comfortable with. So the next Cosby comes along and what happens? Maybe if he's caught early enough and doesn't have the status and money something will be done.

But... those kids in Steubenville only had the status of being good football players. Doesn't take much.

By we I don't mean anyone here in particular. I mean this is what our culture is and it's disgusting but here we are.

 

[Sherwood Park]

Arrogant creep may be an understatement...

http://deadspin.com/bill-cosby-once-publicly-bullied-a-notre-dame-football-1661325778

http://deadspin.com/the-nd-player-bill-cosby-berated-felt-like-a-failure-fo-1661591222

Some people don't realize that Cosby isn't just a rapist, he is also a man who likes to humiliate and dehumanize other men, specifically black men. When he see's other men who don't meet his standards he turns to berating them. He doesn't offer them encouragement or fatherly wisdom and advice, he instead attacks them.
He is basically telling young black men, "You are nothing! Look at me, you will never be as good, smart, and successful as I am." Cosby doesn't seem to care about others' feelings, and neither does his wife!

 

[bluesneakers]

Some people don't realize that Cosby isn't just a rapist, he is also a man who likes to humiliate and dehumanize other men, specifically black men. When he see's other men who don't meet his standards he turns to berating them. He doesn't offer them encouragement or fatherly wisdom and advice, he instead attacks them.
He is basically telling young black men, "You are nothing! Look at me, you will never be as good, smart, and successful as I am." Cosby doesn't seem to care about others' feelings, and neither does his wife!

And pull up your pants!!

 

[CuriousPortlander]

Why LAPD's lone Cosby case matters so much
July 29, 2015 7:34 PM

...But legal experts said there are other reasons for the LAPD to investigate, especially if Cosby is eventually charged with a crime.

California law allows victims to testify as witnesses even if their own cases never resulted in charges. The evidence is admissible due to a change in California evidence law in 1996 that allowed witnesses to prove a pattern of behavior or propensity to commit a crime, said Dmitry Gorin, a former L.A. sex-crimes prosecutor.

(BBM)

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lapd-s-bill-cosby-investigation-could-help-establish-pattern-of-abuse-20150729-story.html

 

[Donjeta]

Cosby accusers support transcript's release
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20150731_Cosby_accusers_support_transcript_s_release.html

Beth Ferrier, a former model from Denver who first told her story to the Daily News in 2005, and Rebecca Neal of Las Vegas filed the motion yesterday in U.S. District Court in Philadelphia.

"The Jane Doe Witnesses merely seek to clarify that they have no objection to [Constand's] attempt to unseal [Cosby's] entire deposition transcript even though they likely are mentioned in the deposition transcript itself," attorney Joyce Collier wrote.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/31/will-these-22-colleges-ever-punish-bill-cosby.html#

...Cosby still maintains an obscene number of honorary degrees from colleges and universities across the country—and some critics have been asking whether it’s time for schools to start rescinding those honors.

 

[wendiesan]

Re: rescinding honorary degrees from BC by schools

When I looked into this in November/December, the schools were saying there was no mechanism in place for doing such a thing.
This, even though students and faculty went to some of the boards with that specific request.

I really hope that since the issue of BC's predatory activities has not blown away, the boards may be taking a second look.