RDI Theorists

[Chrishope]

What kind of flashlight was it? I have a large maglite that takes 4 D-cells. I could crack a 6 year old's scull with it, I'm sure.

 

[Pharlap]

Well the thing I don't get is the note $118.000. Inless they(ramseys) wanted it to look like someone in the company did it. Who else would know Mr. R got that amount?

 

[exoromeo]

What kind of flashlight was it? I have a large maglite that takes 4 D-cells. I could crack a 6 year old's scull with it, I'm sure.

I think it was a maglite (or some other "heavy duty" style) flashlight. Honestly can't remember (been a while since I followed anything with this case til this nut Karr injected himself into it).

 

[tumble]

What kind of flashlight was it? I have a large maglite that takes 4 D-cells. I could crack a 6 year old's scull with it, I'm sure.

I think thats is the kind the R's had also.

But if it was a truly 'innocent' accident, I'm 100 per cent convinced that the parents would have taken their child to the hospital at once. There would have been no need to cover something up.

You might be right. I am not really sure about how it happend and it might very well be more malice behind it. I just think explaining it at the hospital they might feel that they would not be believed. Heck, it is even hard to imagine how it happened that way, I just leave the possibility open.

It is physically impossible for a hand held flashlight swung at JonBenet's head to have caused that huge fracture.

That might just be what PR was thinking when she swung it.

 

[Nuisanceposter]

What kind of flashlight was it? I have a large maglite that takes 4 D-cells. I could crack a 6 year old's scull with it, I'm sure.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0608/17/ng.01.html

SPITZ: Well, she did -- it could not have been an accident because she is hit in the head with a heavy instrument, which caused a rectangular fracture in the skull, into which it is possible to sink the head of a 3- mag flashlight. It`s similar to what the police carry, but the police carry a 5-mag. This is a 3-mag flashlight, which was seen on pictures on the kitchen counter. And you need to pick up this thing and heave it over the head and strike with force into the head. How can that be an accident?

 

[BBB167893]

"I can't get past the chronic sexual molestation. She'd been didled before the 25th/26th."

It is a nasty stumbling block.

 

[JBean]

Well the thing I don't get is the note $118.000. Inless they(ramseys) wanted it to look like someone in the company did it. Who else would know Mr. R got that amount?

Hi Pharlap.There are many that could have known.
1. Any number of bank employees. My banker calls me whenever I make a large deposit to see what I am going to do with it.(I wish he'd call more often lol) He checks my account every day as do his assistants.It had to be processed by someone and that person has friends and they have friends and so on. It may have been worth mentioning to some one.
2. If he left a stub or statement about, any of the services that may have come through to clean their house during the holidays could have seen the stub or a statement.
3. Anyone that the family may have mentioned it to.

 

[Peter Hamilton]

Pharlap--exactly--The 118,000 was used by the Ramseys to focus attention on someone else, someone in the company who may have had a grudge against John--an inept and amateurish attempt by them

 

[JBean]

Pharlap--exactly--The 118,000 was used by the Ramseys to focus attention on someone else, someone in the company who may have had a grudge against John--an inept and amateurish attempt by them

So they chose a figure that would point to them in an attempt to point the finger at someone else who was trying to point it at them? The 2 of them agreed that this would be a good idea? The thought process behind" let's make it look like someone else was trying to make it look like we did it" is bizarre at best.I cannot buy into that theory as it just doesn't make any sense.
The dollar amount definitely leads away from the Ramseys IMO.

 

[wenchie]

Why didn't John go and get the money as instructed, in case the "kidnappers" called and asked for it immediately?

After all....the note said that he was being "monitored".

One would think that if he believed the ransom note, at the very least he would have gotten that adequately sized attache' and gone to the bank.

 

[Buzz Mills]

So they chose a figure that would point to them in an attempt to point the finger at someone else who was trying to point it at them? The 2 of them agreed that this would be a good idea? The thought process behind" let's make it look like someone else was trying to make it look like we did it" is bizarre at best.I cannot buy into that theory as it just doesn't make any sense.
The dollar amount definitely leads away from the Ramseys IMO.

It would be nice if the only question at the moment was whether JMK did it, or not. I don't think he did it, but I think thsi is a great chance for the Boulder D.A./PD to get a lot closer to the guy that did. Whoever did this has to be getting a little upset that JMK is taking credit for something he did.

 

[JBean]

It would be nice if the only question at the moment was whether JMK did it, or not. I don't think he did it, but I think thsi is a great chance for the Boulder D.A./PD to get a lot closer to the guy that did. Whoever did this has to be getting a little upset that JMK is taking credit for something he did.

I agree Buzz. The chances of JMK being the guy are so remote, but I do imagine the killer being someone like JMK. If that is the case, you are right, he or she is probably getting a little perturbed by now.

 

[lovebites]

To those who believe Patsy did it - would you have thought she would have unburdened herself and made a confession to someone on her death bed? I'm not religious, but hear that she was very religious and as such wouldn't she believe she'd be required to confess in order to go to "heaven" or be forgiven?

 

[lilpony]

"I can't get past the chronic sexual molestation. She'd been didled before the 25th/26th."

It is a nasty stumbling block.

I have also read, that this statement is not true. So I don't know what to believe.

 

[lilpony]

It seems that a lot of posters, think that JonBenet's parents did this to her.
So lets say they did! So Burke was home correct? So don't you think he would have heard this, at least heard something. I would think he would have at least got up, went to look. Or at least went to his parents br. I mean they are not going to tell Burke what they did.
But then again, if JMK did, it seems no one heard it either! Oh boy, I am back to square one again.lol

 

[JBean]

I have also read, that this statement is not true. So I don't know what to believe.

Hi LP. I do believe this is debated to this day, much like the strangulation before the head blow debate.

From the separating fact from fiction thread:

She was sexually abused before her death
Not FACT. Experts disagree about this.

 

[lilpony]

Hi LP. I do believe this is debated to this day, much like the strangulation before the head blow debate.

From the separating fact from fiction thread:

Hi JB...I can't keep up here. I'm overwhelmed! But I want to know what happened to JonBenet! :furious:

 

[JBean]

Hi JB...I can't keep up here. I'm overwhelmed! But I want to know what happened to JonBenet! :furious:

Just be careful of things that are stated as fact. Often times it truly is, but some times it isn't and that can lead to even more confusion.
I would like to know what happened to her as well. Either which way it is a sad, tragic story.

 

[JBean]

Why didn't John go and get the money as instructed, in case the "kidnappers" called and asked for it immediately?

After all....the note said that he was being "monitored".

One would think that if he believed the ransom note, at the very least he would have gotten that adequately sized attache' and gone to the bank.

Wasn't he making arrangements to get the cash?
I am inclined to think I would just call the police. i would not attempt to handle it on my own. I also believe if someone will kill the hostage at any time, they would kill the hostage period.
So, while I think I would be behave similarly to the Ramseys regarding calling LE and friends, it's impossible to say what i would really do. I hope I never have to find out.

 

[lilpony]

Just be careful of things that are stated as fact. Often times it truly is, but some times it isn't and that can lead to even more confusion.
I would like to know what happened to her as well. Either which way it is a sad, tragic story.

Horrific, poor JonBenet, no one should have to go through what she did! Do you know if it is fact about prior sexual abuse?