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Russell Armstrong’s suicide is almost as mysterious as the death of Rebecca Zahau. According to news reports no suicide note was found after Russell Armstrong committed suicide, by hanging, in the bedroom of a friend’s home on Monday. No suicide note….

Rebecca Zahau’s nude body, with her hands and feet bound, was discovered hanging from a second story balcony of the historical Coronado, CA, beachfront home of tycoon Jonah Shacknai–Rebecca’s boyfriend–on July 13th. Immediately after Rebecca’s death authorities sealed all records including the autopsy. Missing from the news reports any mention of a suicide note. Within 24 hours both the Coronado Police Department and the Orange County Sheriff’s Department went on record to push the rather incredulous meme Rebecca Zahau ‘committed suicide’. Three weeks later the news, a ‘source’ within one of the police departments believes Rebecca Zahau’s death is ‘very, very suspicious’.

http://deathby1000papercuts.com/201...ssells-sexuality-in-mysterious-tell-all-book/

He wasn't naked, tied up or outside........and no blue scarf

Only similiarity to me is no note......and we don't even know for sure if RN left some type of message.......
 
Non related case.........but interesting results.......http://blog.al.com/breaking/2011/02/huntsville_womans_death_ruled.html

woman's death was initially invetigated as possible homicide, but once forensic results were completed-----ruled suicide.

AND LE did NOT release another other information or why they ruled 'suicide'......

??????

Do you think they will keep all information sealed in RN's case if they rule 'suicide'????
 
scorekeeper said:
http://blog.al.com/breaking/2011/02/huntsville_womans_death_ruled.html

woman's death was initially invetigated as possible homicide, but once forensic results were completed-----ruled suicide.

AND LE did NOT release another other information or why they ruled 'suicide'......

Do you think they will keep all information sealed in RN's case if they rule 'suicide'????
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I was startled at first, I thought that it was about this case, I was suprised at my reaction, acceptance :eek: then I read on lol. I think that unless the family releases the information they may keep it sealed.
 
defense101 said:
I was startled at first, I thought that it was about this case, I was suprised at my reaction, acceptance :eek: then I read on lol. I think that unless the family releases the information they may keep it sealed.
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I'm so sorry.......:waitasec:

I added a bolded line.......unrelated case/interesting results

Didn't mean to get your blood pressure up.......but guess we have to prepare ourselves that this might be the outcome.....

:great::floorlaugh::great::floorlaugh:
 
I found this regarding autopsy's in california

State and local jurisdictions set the laws regulating the release of documents related to an individual's death. Death certificates are considered public records and are usually easy to obtain. The availability of autopsy reports, however, varies with the jurisdiction and the circumstances. In California, for example, anyone may order an autopsy report from a county coroner. If the autopsy is performed privately, however, or performed in a jurisdiction that does not regard a coroner's autopsy as a public document, you may have difficulty obtaining the report.

Read more: How to Obtain Death Records & Autopsy Reports | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_5858232_obtain-death-records-autopsy-reports.html#ixzz1VmnO2As0

This is what SDCO says regarding autopsy reports.

When will the Medical Examiner investigative, toxicology and autopsy reports be ready and how do I obtain copies?
Copies of the autopsy, investigative and toxicology reports will usually be available a few weeks after the cause of death is determined and a death certificate is filed. If you desire these reports, please telephone or write or e-mail this office with your request.


How much does it cost for a copy of a report?
Unsigned copies of reports can be provided via e-mail at no charge. Hard copies of reports are provided at a rate of $1.60 per page, plus the cost of postage. There is no charge for the first copy provided to the legal next-of-kin.
 
On another note, yet another intriguing comment on Coronado Patch about the silence of the sheriff's dept:

Maybe it's time to examine SD Sheriff's Chief Gore.He is politically connected having worked 32 years in the FBI.His wife also worked in the FBI.His father was a policeman and friends with the mayor and outgoing Sheriff's Chief Bill Kolender.

In 2009 Chief Kolender surprisingly announced he was leaving his post about a year early which opened up the doors for family friend Gore.The County Board of Supervisors appointed Gore to replace Chief Kolender until an election the following year which Gore used to his political advantage.

Chief Gore and wife have one son who lives in Arizona but no information yet to any ties with AZ based Jonah Shacknai.This Sheriff Gore is the man responsible for NEWS RELEASES instead of Press Conferences with the media.....geez... even our President has to face the media and answer questions Sheriff Gore.....you're no longer in the FBI and work for the Federal Government.....the time is long overdue to inform the public/community on the Rebecca Zahau investigation.

http://coronado.patch.com/articles/...ves-reasonably-confident-zahau-killed-herself

I am also intrigued about an earlier post in Thread #6 about fed raid on Nexbio in San Diego. It would take some time to look at all the board members etc to determine if there's a Medicis link here. But certainly quite possible.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/aug/04/feds-raid-san-diego-vaccine-developer/
 
I am amazed. I go away for a few hours or what seems like a few hours and the scenario is changing. I really cannot conceive how looking at those photos, and yes I am talking about the photos you cannot see at least one foot bound with several rounds of orange cord and positioned above the other which cannot be seen so it might be, must be the two feet tied together, and yet it is being stated they were not. I expect next to read that she was not nude, but wearing some type of very tight fitting skin colored body suit, and again I go all the way back perhaps four or five threads ago when I questioned that all of this was done by her or to her in the dark of night. I think I need to go and lie back down and think about this some more.

Sorry for my interruption, and sorry also for my tone.
 
scorekeeper said:
Non related case.........but interesting results.......http://blog.al.com/breaking/2011/02/huntsville_womans_death_ruled.html

woman's death was initially invetigated as possible homicide, but once forensic results were completed-----ruled suicide.

AND LE did NOT release another other information or why they ruled 'suicide'......

??????

Do you think they will keep all information sealed in RN's case if they rule 'suicide'????
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I doubt we'll see much of anything unless it is decided by LE that she was murdered.
If RN's death is ruled a suicide, then it will be her family's private tragedy and we have no right to know all of the details.

Do I want to know the details? Of course, I'm just as curious as the next person.
Are the details my business just because I'm curious? Absolutely not.
 
defense101 said:
I found this regarding autopsy's in california

State and local jurisdictions set the laws regulating the release of documents related to an individual's death. Death certificates are considered public records and are usually easy to obtain. The availability of autopsy reports, however, varies with the jurisdiction and the circumstances. In California, for example, anyone may order an autopsy report from a county coroner. If the autopsy is performed privately, however, or performed in a jurisdiction that does not regard a coroner's autopsy as a public document, you may have difficulty obtaining the report.

Read more: How to Obtain Death Records & Autopsy Reports | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_5858232_obtain-death-records-autopsy-reports.html#ixzz1VmnO2As0

This is what SDCO says regarding autopsy reports.

When will the Medical Examiner investigative, toxicology and autopsy reports be ready and how do I obtain copies?
Copies of the autopsy, investigative and toxicology reports will usually be available a few weeks after the cause of death is determined and a death certificate is filed. If you desire these reports, please telephone or write or e-mail this office with your request.


How much does it cost for a copy of a report?
Unsigned copies of reports can be provided via e-mail at no charge. Hard copies of reports are provided at a rate of $1.60 per page, plus the cost of postage. There is no charge for the first copy provided to the legal next-of-kin.
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Medical Examiner Reports
http://www.sdcounty.ca.gov/me/copies.html

In cases where the cause and manner of death are not determined at the time of the autopsy (in other words, pending further investigation), copies of the autopsy, investigative and toxicology reports will usually be available a few weeks after the cause of death is determined and a death certificate is filed. This can be as long as 90 days after the death, but it is usually sooner.

In cases where the cause and manner of death are certified at the time of the autopsy, the autopsy, investigative, and toxicology reports can take several weeks to complete (generally between 4 and 8 weeks, but it may take longer).

Reports are released only after all the reports (autopsy, investigative, and toxicology) and the death certificate have been completed. We do not prepare preliminary reports.

If you desire these reports, please write, email (recordsmx@sdcounty.ca.gov), or telephone this office with your request. If emailing your request, please provide your relationship to the decedent, your return address (if requesting hard copies), and your phone number in case we have questions.

Unsigned copies of reports can be provided via e-mail at no charge. Hard (signed) copies of reports are provided at a rate of $1.60 per page, plus the cost of postage. There is no charge for the first copy provided to the legal next-of-kin. Full description of Fees.

If when you receive the reports you have questions, please call our office at (858) 694-2895.
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http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...Ge0bFS&sig=AHIEtbQxLDfEr1iUGwzfnUd97k8vtgk0uA

7.14.2011 Update

This is an update on the death investigation that began on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 at 1043 Ocean Boulevard in the City of Coronado. The victim has been identified as 32 year old Rebecca Nalepa (also known as Rebecca Zahau). Nalepa was staying at the residence with her boyfriend identified as Dr. Jonah Shacknai. On July 13, 2011 The Coronado Police were investigating a suspicious death at 1043 Ocean Boulevard in the City of Coronado. At approximately 0648 hours, Units from the Coronado Police Department went to 1043 Ocean Boulevard in response to a 911 call. The reporting party, later identified as Adam Shacknai told responding Officers he found Nalepa with a rope around her neck and hanging from a balcony off the main house. When the Coronado Units arrived at the scene, they located a female adult on the property who appeared to be deceased. The victim’s hands and feet were bound and she was completely nude. The responding Officers provided medical aid until the Coronado Fire Department arrived on scene a few moments later and determined the victim to be deceased. The condition of the victim and the scene showed suspicious circumstances that initiated the response from Coronado Police Department Investigators and in turn, the Sheriff’s Homicide Detail along with Investigators from the California Department of Justice and the San Diego County Medical Examiner’s Office. The Sheriff’s Department is conducting this investigation in partnership with the Coronado Police Department. An autopsy is being conducted this morning by the San Diego County Medical Examiner’s Office. The Sheriff’s Crime Lab is processing numerous items of evidence and Investigators are questioning several witnesses as well as following other leads. Because of the unique and bizarre circumstances of this incident, it has yet to be determined if this will become a criminal matter or a death investigation.
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how common ? or how rare? is it for newspaper reporters(including "reputable" reporters) in the california/western states region to be "paid" to publish "PR" or "slanted" news on a certain event ? is there a history for such practice ever in the united states ?

I do know that this is common practice in some other countries.

as for jun lazo, I could only find lots of sites for lasso:
http://www.juggling.org/books/lasso/

what makes her death more unfortunate is that her relatives seem to be all based out of state(california) so its presumably harder for them logistically speaking, to keep the flame alive or the campaign to find the culprits or cause.
 
A jump off time's above post.....

http://www.sdsheriff.net/coronado/

From July 14, 2011


Because of the unique and
bizarre circumstances of this incident, it has yet to be determined if this will become a criminal matter or a death investigation

If you look at the web site, its title is:

CORONADO DEATH INVESTIGATION

Does this mean they have moved to a death investigation?????????

Or just a play on words....
 
scorekeeper said:
A jump off time's above post.....

http://www.sdsheriff.net/coronado/

From July 14, 2011


Because of the unique and
bizarre circumstances of this incident, it has yet to be determined if this will become a criminal matter or a death investigation

If you look at the web site, its title is:

CORONADO DEATH INVESTIGATION

Does this mean they have moved to a death investigation?????????

Or just a play on words....
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I think its a play on words, they can't say suicide or murder investigation, so they go with death investigation imo. I've just been reading some articles and websites on media slant and the reasons behind it. One of articles I read explained how to read the article. The articles that state in the headline that it has been determined to be a suicide I bet received a lot of visits, here is part of what it said, I think it says quite a bit about how that article was written, very interesting...

Determine if the news article states its sources and attributes its information correctly. The Reuters Handbook of Journalism details the journalist's duty to report all information sources to the reader. The story cannot make a generalization or provide information without any way to back it up. Sources, too, must be balanced.

Read more: How to Critically Analyze Newspaper Articles | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_6305555_critically-analyze-newspaper-articles.html#ixzz1Vo20fFMJ
 
scorekeeper said:
A jump off time's above post.....

http://www.sdsheriff.net/coronado/

From July 14, 2011


Because of the unique and
bizarre circumstances of this incident, it has yet to be determined if this will become a criminal matter or a death investigation

If you look at the web site, its title is:

CORONADO DEATH INVESTIGATION

Does this mean they have moved to a death investigation?????????

Or just a play on words....
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It has been a death investigation all along. The death investigation is done by the homicide division in case it becomes a homicide instead of a suicide.

IMO
 
defense101 said:
I think its a play on words, they can't say suicide or murder investigation, so they go with death investigation imo. I've just been reading some articles and websites on media slant and the reasons behind it. One of articles I read explained how to read the article. The articles that state in the headline that it has been determined to be a suicide I bet received a lot of visits, here is part of what it said, I think it says quite a bit about how that article was written, very interesting...

Determine if the news article states its sources and attributes its information correctly. The Reuters Handbook of Journalism details the journalist's duty to report all information sources to the reader. The story cannot make a generalization or provide information without any way to back it up. Sources, too, must be balanced.

Read more: How to Critically Analyze Newspaper Articles | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_6305555_critically-analyze-newspaper-articles.html#ixzz1Vo20fFMJ
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It actually is a death investigation, defense.

Unless a death is determined at the time of autopsy it calls for a death investigation.

For example: When Michael Jackson died it was a death investigation and was later determined to be a homicide rather than an accidental overdose or natural causes etc.

The same thing happened in the Lana Clarkson case. It took the ME over 7 months to determine her death was a homicide instead of a suicide.

The same thing in the Celina Cass case.

IMO
 
The nature of modern death investigation includes social issues that extend beyond the crimescene and often impact everyone who is involved with the death. Dr. Randy Hanzlick stated that death investigations carry broad societal importance for criminal justice and public health.

The investigations provide evidence to convict the guilty and exonerate the innocent. Death investigation has an impact on judicial decisions involving incarceration and financial and professional status. Death investigations aid civil litigation as well, states Hanzlick. (2003) Athorough death investigation can uncover unsafe conditions that potentially could save the livesA Medieval Coroner tests guilt through ordeal by fireSource: Britannia


Historyhttp://www.britannia.com/history/articles/coroner5.html
 
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