Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #7

[Soulmagent]

In the comments section at the link, ilikem** has a very strong opinion about this case.

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/investigative/sources-allege-millionaire%27s-girlfriend-committed-suicide

Yeah but in all groups of people you have individuals who are able to shake the confines of such stigma's such as a classification of what a certain group of people may or may not ever do.

In other words stereo typing this group of women does not make it a true stereo type.

 

[scorekeeper]

I dont know if this case mets ALL of the criteria. It comes really close in making one very confused .

This death was also ruled to be a suicide ,stunning alot of people.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/26/national/main5343131.shtml?tag=untagged

Thanks. This article gives a little more detail as to why......life insurance

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/US/us-census-worker-bill-sparkman-committed-suicide/story?id=9167408

 

[sdcali]

IMO.
I see no reason for LE to set up a special website and state specifically that they will post a notice when they are going to announce their findings to only have "sources close to the investigation" leak information. Just announce it.

Two things come to mind. 1) they are just going to keep leaking info that it is probably a suicide, looks like a suicide, probably is a suicide, until everyone just absorbs that and stops asking.

Or 2) they have something else going on entirely.

The leaks are purposeful. There is a reason.

I still go back to this. If what is being leaked is fact, then why not just make the public announcement. Why are they waiting. If it is not fact and not authorized, then why is the Sheriff's department not up in arms that "sources" are speaking to the press?

This is not adding up. IMO

 

[SunnieRN]

I just got home from vacation and have tried to catch up. I find it hard to believe that after this long, suicide stories are starting. I think I will bide my time and wait for an official word from SD LE.

If this is ruled a suicide, I think it should join the ranks of John F. Kennedy, his son John Jr., as well as many others. If there was a note on the mirror, if it is a mirror, that would be interesting, but I believe it would have made this a more open/shut case.

 

[sdcali]

and why the removal of all the evidence from the house? If is was a suicide that took place outside why the carpet, the painting, the bags of evidence? I'm having a hard time with this one.:maddening:

yes, I have those same questions. what did they find? what were they looking for?

 

[Carpe Pacem]

It's nearly impossible for me to imagine a grief-stricken woman taking her own life in such a manner, a manner that could be interpreted as totally unfeeling toward the man she loved, who was in the process of losing his beloved little boy.

If it was indeed a suicide, what could explain the thought processes/intention behind it?

So much tragedy in the space of a few days...

 

[CalElliot]

I would hesitate to characterize any of the recent news stories as "leaks," whatever the verbiage. More like news sites quoting what started out as a single blog site quoting speculation by a source thinly if at all qualified to comment on the case that, in a news-starved environment, turns into third-hand "reporting." Of course, a single planted blog postulating "suicide" can generate a zillion stories on the web repeating that word in relation to the victim...including the discussion of those "news" stories here. Fascinating to watch the thing spread like a virus.

 

[Bonepile]

I do not know how to read the silence ... I do not know how to read the "leaks" ... I do not know how to read this case .. I do know that whatever the outcome or the official statements we will be here discussing and analyzing and commenting on it for many more weeks to come. And for me I cannot wait for those opportunities to continue.

 

[scorekeeper]

I would hesitate to characterize any of the recent news stories as "leaks," whatever the verbiage. More like news sites quoting what started out as a single blog site quoting speculation by a source thinly if at all qualified to comment on the case that, in a news-starved environment, turns into third-hand "reporting." Of course, a single planted blog postulating "suicide" can generate a zillion stories on the web repeating that word in relation to the victim...including the discussion of those "news" stories here. Fascinating to watch the thing spread like a virus.

BBM

:goodpost::tyou:

So true. Everyone is 'starved' for information in this case. A zillion stories is what happened........As far as any of us can tell, the suicide outcome DID NOT come from LE. As previously posted by some, why start a web site to only leak information. No information was leaked during the first month.

Is someone feeling the 'heat'; are the questions by LE getting harder to answer; is someone feeling cornered?

What stops the PR firm from 'leaking' information and keeping the 'company' in good standing, along with its leader? Remember this 'leak' comes after the company share holders' meeting.......

Let's hope those 15 LE members are getting ready to say RN was murdered!!
Let's hope the prosecutor's office has enough evidence to prosecute!!

As I previously stated....why use orange construction electrical cord (manly) with a lovely blue scarf.......it's like wearing a plaid blouse with a flowered skirt.....a no-no for RN

 

[scorekeeper]

It is total CONJECTURE that RZ felt extreme guilt, thus a motive to commit suicide. AS was the only one to see her hanging, therefore it should be referred to as an ALLEGED hanging. It is sickening how the media is spinning this tragic story. If indeed RZ was compelled to take her own life, where on earth would she come up with this modus operandi: hands bound behind her back, feet bound, nude with a noose around her neck? I beg for someone to find a suicide case that fits ALL these criteria.

Sorry, this is late BUT

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[elementry]

It is total CONJECTURE that RZ felt extreme guilt, thus a motive to commit suicide. AS was the only one to see her hanging, therefore it should be referred to as an ALLEGED hanging. It is sickening how the media is spinning this tragic story. If indeed RZ was compelled to take her own life, where on earth would she come up with this modus operandi: hands bound behind her back, feet bound, nude with a noose around her neck? I beg for someone to find a suicide case that fits ALL these criteria.

So she felt very guilty about what happened to the son of her lover......but not enough to actually pen an explanatory or apologetic letter in regard to the suicide/self-homicide she was committing on her mate's property, thus making the calamity even worse. Possible in some kind of shame spiral I guess.....

This latest round of articles floating the suicide scenario should be titled,"Sitrick Company Sources Allege Suicide, (Media Complies)".

 

[scorekeeper]

Article - Coronado mansion death: The suicide scenario

Posted 8/19 and updated 8/21

But is that really possible? Local investigators admit they have never encountered a female suicide victim, found hanging, naked and bound. But the suicide scenario remains a possibility.

"It is unusual to have somebody who is bound at the feet, and to have their hands secured behind their back, and of course being unclothed," Sheriff's homicide Sgt. Roy Frank told News 8 last month.Even so, "there are documentations of incidents throughout the country where people have secured their feet and hands to commit suicide," said Sgt. Frank.

http://www.cbs8.com/story/15294873/coronado-mansion-death-the-suicide-scenario

BBM

Is this the article that started the 'suicide' conclusion?

They are quoting what LE said over a month ago.........they have no new quotes from LE

The reporter couldn't even find a suicide where a woman bound both hands and feet and naked and outside.......

 

[scorekeeper]

Information that didn’t come from this website or the Sheriff’s Homicide and
Public Affairs Division, or the Coronado Police Department is not credible

August 18, 2011 http://www.sdsheriff.net/coronado/0818.pdf

BBM

So, the articles about 'suicide' are/is not credible........

 

[believe09]

Is Sgt Roy Frank qualified to make this statement? Is he speaking for the investigation? So this is a direct statement from a member of law enforcement essentially confirming that the suicide theory was at that time being investigated.

Which makes me a little confused about your post CalElliot:

I would hesitate to characterize any of the recent news stories as "leaks," whatever the verbiage. More like news sites quoting what started out as a single blog site quoting speculation by a source thinly if at all qualified to comment on the case that, in a news-starved environment, turns into third-hand "reporting." Of course, a single planted blog postulating "suicide" can generate a zillion stories on the web repeating that word in relation to the victim...including the discussion of those "news" stories here. Fascinating to watch the thing spread like a virus.

 

[Quester]

IF suicide, this was an unbelievably selfish act done at an unbelievably selfish time (while parents were holding vigil over their brain-dead son whose body was being keep alive while waiting to donate organs).

Hard to imagine/believe that RN would want to add to the profound grief that JS was already experiencing.

 

[believe09]

Most people who are going to kill themselves arent all that concerned about their timing or ultimately about the ones they leave behind I think. It is a pretty solitary act that has a lot of collateral damage of course.

 

[believe09]

Has this article been posted and reviewed yet?

http://www.jaapl.org/cgi/content/full/36/2/240

"Naked suicide can be associated with any method of suicide; however, anecdotal evidence indicates that it occurs more frequently with hanging, overdose, or drowning, but to a lesser extent in jumping deaths."

 

[4Jacy]

It's nearly impossible for me to imagine a grief-stricken woman taking her own life in such a manner, a manner that could be interpreted as totally unfeeling toward the man she loved, who was in the process of losing his beloved little boy.

If it was indeed a suicide, what could explain the thought processes/intention behind it?


IF it was a suicide, which it certainly was not in my opinion, there is NO WAY she would have done it nude and outside if only for respect for Maxie.

This case is embarrassing for the police and for the public. The police are afraid of stepping on wealthy and powerful toes and the public thinks this is pathetic. However, the situation won't be corrected, it will just fade away into the background, always to remain a mystery. AGAIN!

Aren't we, the people, tired of being hoodwinked. Hoping I'm wrong, but doubting it....

 

[scorekeeper]

Is Sgt Roy Frank qualified to make this statement? Is he speaking for the investigation? So this is a direct statement from a member of law enforcement essentially confirming that the suicide theory was at that time being investigated.

Which makes me a little confused about your post CalElliot:

Because of the unique and
bizarre circumstances of this incident, it has yet to be determined if this will become a criminal matter or a death investigation

http://www.sdsheriff.net/coronado/0714.pdf - from july 14

SDCS statement - BBM

No determination regarding suicide/homicide..........awaiting forensics.....

 

[oceanblueeyes]

But I still can't grasp why go through all the steps if this was a suicide? Why use the orange construction extension cord......she appeared to have scarfs, why not use them on her hands and feet....why naked....why outside...why cause 'shame' to her loved ones....I still can't buy it....my heart keeps saying she was murdered.....

I can truly understand that, scorekeeper. I believe the reason it is hard to understand is we really don't have the mind set of someone who contemplates and carries out suicide. It is logical that we question such things but imo you cant use logic and commonsense and apply it to an irrational act.

The same questions have gone through the minds my husband's family for many years when his nephew took his own life. Why did he come to the very place of the people who loved and supported him more than anyone and let his loving and devoted grandparents see him like that when he killed himself with a shotgun? Why would he do this to the people he loved more than anyone? Yet after all these years we still don't know why.

IMO