Rebecca's cell phone records

[stilettos]

That doesn't mean he didn't attend MS's funeral or memorial service.

The family is Jewish. That means they have 24 hours to bury their dead. Since MS's time of death was pretty much predicted because he was an organ donor, it would be fairly easy (please realize I'm using the word "easy" only in terms of organization, not in terms of emotional ease) to plan the funeral's time fairly quickly. That means that DS's twin sister and AS could have attended the funeral and left the same day MS was taken off life support.

It also means that the family could have held a memorial service on a different day. That memorial service was private (as stated in the press) so we don't know who attended. I think the family was vague about both services (if there were, in fact, two services which is what I suspect, but not meant to be taken as fact) so as to keep their privacy during this difficult time.

I am well versed on Jewish tradition. I would imagine the immediate family would be in attendance while sitting Shiva...though there is no literal commandment for an Uncle to do so...it is customary out of respect for your sibling. That would put him there for seven days past the death or memorial. Do you know that AS was in Coronado to support his brother through this tradition?

 

[SophieRose]

This is where I got theinfo that Adam Shacknai left CA.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/07/22/what-went-down-at-the-shacknai-mansion/

Snipped

"In the case of the death of Rebecca Zahau, Adam Shacknai is considered a prime witness, but is not considered a suspect at this time. In fact, he has been allowed to leave California." Since it is in this part of the article discussing the day after the incident with rebecca...I inferred that is when he left. i could be wrong...still looking for the article with the highly connected criminal attny.

I believe (opinion alert) that the memorial service was held in Arizona, so Adam would have had to leave the state to attend.

 

[stilettos]

http://www.bnet.com/blog/drug-busin...cis-may-contemplate-life-without-its-ceo/9201

Interesting timeline of events.

 

[stilettos]

I believe (opinion alert) that the memorial service was held in Arizona, so Adam would have had to leave the state to attend.

That would be an interesting development to know for sure. So, Dina and her sister went to Arizona too? I will look for that info. I am trying to hammer out a concrete timeline of events...it would be good to know when they left.

 

[Morag]

This is where I got theinfo that Adam Shacknai left CA.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/07/22/what-went-down-at-the-shacknai-mansion/

Snipped

"In the case of the death of Rebecca Zahau, Adam Shacknai is considered a prime witness, but is not considered a suspect at this time. In fact, he has been allowed to leave California." Since it is in this part of the article discussing the day after the incident with rebecca...I inferred that is when he left. i could be wrong...still looking for the article with the highly connected criminal attny.

Here's a mention of a Paul Pfingst:

http://www.cbs8.com/story/15075598/...to-speak?clienttype=printable&redirected=true

Wednesday evening, former District Attorney and current defense attorney Paul Pfingst showed up at the crime scene. Pfingst confirmed to News 8 that he had been hired to represent someone connected with this case, although he would not specify who his client is.

"I'm not Jonah's lawyer. I've never spoke with him. As far as I know he's not a suspect of any type," Pfingst said in a statement.

 

[time]

Thank you so much for posting this. First off, Rebecca and JS did not seem to communicate for a long period of time, as anytime you answer a phone call, it states 1 minute, even if it is only 20 seconds.

Not sure what time they ate dinner, or where, but when Rebecca died her stomach was empty, but according to the phone records it must have been prior to 7:30, which fits with AS reported times. If she even ate, since she only had bile in her stomach).

Why did AS call Rebecca's cell at 7:39? They had gone to dinner and he said they arrived at the mansion at 8 pm, so why a 7:39 call? This is VERY hinky to me. If he had gone to visit Max, and called at 7:30 to find Rebecca, how could they have found each other, gotten to the car and gotten all the way back to Coronado by 8?

Why did DS sister call Rebecca at 10:41? Why not call her the next day? Or talk to her when she came to bring JS something? Was it her clothing in the guest house bedroom?

I have more thoughts that I will post on after I think this through a bit.

Thank you again for posting this!!!!!:seeya:

I'm still catching up but


10:41PM
Incoming text from Nina Romano's cell (ex sister-in-law)


I find this very strange for her to call so late at night. We don't know what their relationship was (I presume), but I doubt it was really close. I don't even call my family late at night nor do they call me. And, this was a potentially upsetting call? What would she want to ask about the accident at 10:40 at night?

 

[time]

Or it could be that Rebecca was tired and was going to get ready for bed like she told her sister. Perhaps she was in the shower when the text came from DS sister and she never even bothered to read it.

It could be one way, or the other. Since I happen to feel that Rebecca did not end her own life, I hardly feel that a text, containing what DS sister said it does, would drive Rebecca to commit suicide. Especially since we do not know if she even read it.

I'm really behind so I'm sorry for asking... did anyone verify what was in those texts?

 

[jjenny]

I'm still catching up but


10:41PM
Incoming text from Nina Romano's cell (ex sister-in-law)


I find this very strange for her to call so late at night. We don't know what their relationship was (I presume), but I doubt it was really close. I don't even call my family late at night nor do they call me. And, this was a potentially upsetting call? What would she want to ask about the accident at 10:40 at night?

DS's sister wanted to come over to discuss Max's accident.

 

[SunnieRN]

I'm really behind so I'm sorry for asking... did anyone verify what was in those texts?

Hello Time.:seeya: LE verified the messages by speaking to the people who sent them. No other investigation of them has been done at this time.

 

[stilettos]

Hello Time.:seeya: LE verified the messages by speaking to the people who sent them. No other investigation of them has been done at this time.

Is it just me, or would the serious nature of these two horrible events not prompt the investigators to verify the texts by further investigation than just the word of the people who sent them? I am just wondering if I am unusually suspiciious.:crazy:

 

[SunnieRN]

Is it just me, or would the serious nature of these two horrible events not prompt the investigators to verify the texts by further investigation than just the word of the people who sent them? I am just wondering if I am unusually suspiciious.:crazy:

Not at all in my mind!

 

[justice be served]

Is it just me, or would the serious nature of these two horrible events not prompt the investigators to verify the texts by further investigation than just the word of the people who sent them? I am just wondering if I am unusually suspiciious.:crazy:

Yes, I would think if LE wanted an 'ironclad' case that they would indeed verify the texts. We now know that Rebecca's cell phone records only show that her voicemail was accessed at the correct hour. We do not have evidence that a voicemail was sent to her.

As another poster stated earlier upthread (on one of the threads), LE and the powers that be didn't expect the intelligent and cogent discussion and investigative powers that have come into play on Rebecca's death. They've got their work cut out for them now to further defend their ruling.

 

[jjenny]

Yes, I would think if LE wanted an 'ironclad' case that they would indeed verify the texts. We now know that Rebecca's cell phone records only show that her voicemail was accessed at the correct hour. We do not have evidence that a voicemail was sent to her.

As another poster stated earlier upthread (on one of the threads), LE and the powers that be didn't expect the intelligent and cogent discussion and investigative powers that have come into play on Rebecca's death. They've got their work cut out for them now to further defend their ruling.

We don't even know for sure that it was her specifically that accessed her voicemail.

 

[arielilane]

I would like to see the phone records from the prior night.

 

[Salem]

This thread is about the cell phone records. If your post is off topic, it is subject to removal.

Please post your comments in the appropriate threads.

Thanks,

Salem

 

[tiredblondy]

Why does it matter to any of you who sat shiva with DS and JS when they buried their little boy? It pains me that so many of you were judging the Shacknai family because you were either ignorant of Jewish customs or because you saw a sentence on some forum and ran with it. This family lost its youngest and most beloved member and they've been raked through the mud. What happened to not judging the victims?

Excellent question, may I ask the same about Rebecca and her family?

Rebecca was definitely a victim...no doubt about it in my book.

If one goes back and looks on any other forum about any situation one will see we ask lots of questions. That's what we do here.

I'm not aware of another person here who used/uses the word "judged or judging".

 

[time]

Hello Time.:seeya: LE verified the messages by speaking to the people who sent them. No other investigation of them has been done at this time.

Hi!!

Oh, boy, just as I suspected.

 

[time]

DS's sister wanted to come over to discuss Max's accident.

Thanks Jenny ... I should have rephrased because from what I read it sounded like she wanted to go over that night even?

 

[tvscum]

From Sept. 2nd news conference:

@ 26:43
Sgt Nemeth: “The last outgoing call from Rebecca’s phone was found to be to her own voicemail at about ten minutes to one in the morning. We know from the investigation that message that was left on her phone was to inform Rebecca of Maxie’s grave condition and imminent death.”

@48:33
Reporter: “Who made the call to Rebecca and left the voicemail about Max’s condition?”

Sgt Nemeth: “We’re not going to release that, again, that’s private family information. She did receive the message from somebody close to her…”

Sheriff Gore: “And we don’t have the exact message. It was erased. But we talked to the person that left the message and it did report accurately Max’s deteriorating situation.”

This was all that was ever said at the news conference regarding the message being erased. There was nothing said about LE not being able to recover the message. They never said they tried to recover the message.

 

[sdcali]

It would make sense to me that an "ironclad" case would have left no stone unturned. Instead, we are left with a minefield of stones that were left untouched.