Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 1/13/15 Break

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  • #121
Since Maria wasn't in the court room yesterday, I guess she couldn't post any twits for the killer hahaha. No twitter updates. The last one was

Her inexperience has guaranteed that Jodi's case will be overturned. And Juan's misconduct has sealed the deal.

This is what she is counting on. I have to say that I think the judge is going to deny the motion to dismiss. DT has proved nothing and I think the judge is being diligent and letting the jury hear it all so it isn't an appeal issue and I agree with her on this. I have disagreed with many of the judge's handlings of her courtroom but for some reason I think she may be turning a corner. I guess we shall see on Wednesday.

Apparently the reason she wasn't in court yesterday was because she was at the spa and buying a new car.

Some mitigation specialist.
 
  • #122
But if they keep saying that their super busy witnesses aren't available for a few days or a week, what does JSS tell them to do in the meantime? So far she's just been cancelling court. They supposedly have at least another dozen people that they can play these games with.

That's a question better left for AZL, but the defense is going to try to stretch it out any way they can. "Okay maybe we'll issue a subpoena for this one, so give us a few days," then it will be that the person refuses to testify unless they are given the John Smith treatment, then it will be that they aren't available until next month, etc.

How much patience is JSS going to have if they want to repeat this sort of shenanigans 14 times (or is it 11, or is it ...), claiming they need a couple weeks in each case to get the details ironed out? If the defense refuses to proceed she can't hold up the trial forever. Or maybe she can, based on what we've seen so far.
 
  • #123
I don't think Beth is on a side. And for me it matters that another atty and very knowledgeable court watcher thinks the 2008 image thing is a big deal and a good appeals issue.

I know it seemed JSS was angry when in the evidentiary hearings she had to instruct JM to turn over the 2008 image immediately. This when BN had yet to turn over the HD image JM had repeatedly requested. JSS had a pretty good sense of what was going on with all things HD at that point, and it mattered to her that the DT didn't have the 2008.

Whether legally relevant or not I don't know, but it is simply the fact of the matter that the 2008 and 2009 images are NOT identical. To say they are in all ways that matter may miss the point.

Trying to look at in the most unbiased way I can. If the 2008 mirror image was listed on an evidence log as it should have been after it was made, no worry. Doesn't seem like that could have happened,or JM would have already swatted away the DT accusation they were unaware of it.

So remind me, how is anyone so sure the DT knew of the image but just never asked for it?

Thank you Hope! I feel the same way. This whole "image" thing has some missing pieces, IMO. The facts seemed so skewed to me.

I guess the bigger question is was the State deliberately hiding something? I don't think so, but even if it was an error or miscommunication, this is still grounds for appeal/maybe drop DP. All it takes is one stupid thing. Right??
 
  • #124
xxxxxxx ‏@xxxxxxxx 6m6 minutes ago
@ericksonvision so how much did it really cost? I've heard between $400 and $1500

Dave Erickson
‏@ericksonvision
@azmatthews Over $1000
 
  • #125
Hope, I don't know anything for sure. I only repeated what Beth said. I did say that she appears....only appears...to be siding with the defense. I think that's true.

And would be her benefit to side with the Defense? She has no reason to. She is there, sees the jury, everything. I do truly believe she is just giving a non-bias opinion.
 
  • #126
And would be her benefit to side with the Defense? She has no reason to. She is there, sees the jury, everything. I do truly believe she is just giving a non-bias opinion.

I think curious means she's siding with the defense on this issue.
 
  • #127

Dave Erickson ‏@ericksonvision 10m10 minutes ago
I'll post snippets from the secret #JodiArias testimony in a bit.
I can say its about her life and childhood, doesn't talk about Travis.


BBM:

I can hear that bus coming now !

It's going to be interesting to see WHO JA threw under the bus !

:gaah:
 
  • #128
Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 6s6 seconds ago
Transcript of Jodi Arias's secret testimony #jodiarias#3tvarias

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  • #129
Source Twitter:

"Justice For Travis ‏@Justice4rTravis 6m6 minutes ago
Heard the secret testimony is about #jodiarias childhood. Is she going to pull a Casey Anthony & accuse her dad of molesting her?Oh dear god"
 
  • #130
Mike is teasing us. But atleast we know it's been printed and distributed.
 
  • #131
Beth was a prosecutor.

AZL is an appeal attorney in Arizona. I feel like she would know more about what is and isn't a valid appeal issue than a prosecutor who hasn't practiced in 20 years. Some posted that the attorney that she was talking to had another opinion than her. Perhaps she just has this wrong.
 
  • #132
I don't think Beth is on a side. And for me it matters that another atty and very knowledgeable court watcher thinks the 2008 image thing is a big deal and a good appeals issue.

I know it seemed JSS was angry when in the evidentiary hearings she had to instruct JM to turn over the 2008 image immediately. This when BN had yet to turn over the HD image JM had repeatedly requested. JSS had a pretty good sense of what was going on with all things HD at that point, and it mattered to her that the DT didn't have the 2008.

Whether legally relevant or not I don't know, but it is simply the fact of the matter that the 2008 and 2009 images are NOT identical. To say they are in all ways that matter may miss the point.

Trying to look at in the most unbiased way I can. If the 2008 mirror image was listed on an evidence log as it should have been after it was made, no worry. Doesn't seem like that could have happened,or JM would have already swatted away the DT accusation they were unaware of it.

So remind me, how is anyone so sure the DT knew of the image but just never asked for it?

Thank you Hope! I feel the same way. This whole "image" thing has some missing pieces, IMO. The facts seemed so skewed to me.

I guess the bigger question is was the State deliberately hiding something? I don't think so, but even if it was an error or miscommunication, this is still grounds for appeal/maybe drop DP. All it takes is one stupid thing. Right??

I don't believe the State deliberately hid anything. But I've definitely been concerned that it may not matter, if they are guilty of a Brady violation, even inadvertent....which is why I badgered AZL so much about this. ;)

I don't believe for a minute that JSS will drop the DP. Just would feel sick if the DT has accidentally
stumbled over a good appeals issue.
 
  • #133
From Jeff Gold:

Jeffrey Evan Gold @jeffgoldesq · 1h 1 hour ago


#JodiArias secret testimony to be released today.

Media waits with baited breath in hopes there is something to talk about in transcript.
 
  • #134
BBM:

I can hear that bus coming now !

It's going to be interesting to see WHO JA threw under the bus !

:gaah:

this is what i've been suspecting since we found out it was her that was testifying in secret. perhaps she's threw her dad under the bus like CA...really would not surprise me
 
  • #135
From Michael Kiefer:


Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer · 2m 2 minutes ago


I've got transcripts of the secret #jodiarias testimony.

I will let you know what's in them.

Word is, nothing new.




---Uh, Michael, we'll be the judge of that !
 
  • #136
I've read that BK occasionally has praise for Nurmi....he's doing a good job, etc. Has she ever said anything similar about JM?
 
  • #137
Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 3m3 minutes ago
I've got transcripts of the secret #jodiarias testimony. I will let you know what's in them. Word is, nothing new.
 
  • #138
From AZ Central:

Link: http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/mesa/2014/10/21/jodi-arias-trial-twitter-updates/17660021/


10:59 William Pitts@william_pitts

#JodiArias transcripts have been released. Will be working through them when I get sick #dailybaby back home. @michaelbkiefer working too



10:56 Michael Kiefer@michaelbkiefer

I've got transcripts of the secret #jodiarias testimony. I will let you know what's in them. Word is, nothing



11:01 Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer

Third question of secret #JodiArias testimony: "And did you kill Travis Alexander?" Answer: "Yes." She then says she first admitted in 2010.
 
  • #139
Since David Erickson said its about her life and childhood, I am only assuming she said terrible things about her family and that is why she wanted it kept a secret until after trial. If they love her so much, let them place themselves in the hot seat and testify of what a darling little lady she was. MOO.
 
  • #140
Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 9s9 seconds ago
Q: Why did it take you two years to admit that you did it? #jodiarias: "It took me that long to be able to admit to myself...that I did it."

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Oh puhlease.
 
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