Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 1/29 thru 2/2 - Break

[TexMex]

This is why DeMarte needs to emphasize during her testimony that it is NOT a mental illness.

Every thing I have looked up re bipolar says it is a mental illness...which could backfire as a mitigator

 

[daisydomino]

The DEFENSE has rested for their part of mitigation.

All of the time stamps on all of the photos are from EnCase. Listen to or read Det. Melendez' testimony from Day 2 2013.

 

[daisydomino]

Every thing I have looked up re bipolar says it is a mental illness...which could backfire as a mitigator

BPD is borderline personality disorder.

She was not diagnosed with bipolar, was she?

 

[Truth Detector]

Some folks seem to be conflating Borderline Personality Disorder and Bi-Polar Disorder (manic depression).

They are not the same thing.

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/borderline-personality-disorder-bipolar-disorder

 

[TexMex]

BPD is borderline personality disorder.

She was not diagnosed with bipolar, was she?

Borderline is definatlely a mental illness and yes I think that's what Demarte diagnosed

 

[Truth Detector]

BPD is borderline personality disorder.

She was not diagnosed with bipolar, was she?

Not to my knowledge.

 

[Truth Detector]

Is there court tomorrow?

Yes, Groundhog Day.

Appropriate, eh?

 

[MeeBee]

Every thing I have looked up re bipolar says it is a mental illness...which could backfire as a mitigator

Jodi is not diagnosed bipolar. She has borderline personality disorder.

 

[ElleElle]

I think it was last, because weak or not, at close enough range to blast through someone forehead, that bullet must've ricocheted around at least some before resting where it did. Now if it had gone straight through and exited, then maybe I could see it not affecting all facilities right away.

And we don't know for sure what path the bullet took because Dr. Horn stated the brain matter was in decomposition.

 

[TexMex]

Jodi is not diagnosed bipolar. She has borderline personality disorder. It's not a mental illness. It's a personality disorder

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/borderline-personality-disorder/index.shtml

Borderline personality disorder (BPD) is a serious mental illness marked by unstable moods, behavior, and relationships. In 1980, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for Mental Disorders, Third Edition (DSM-III) listed BPD as a diagnosable illness for the first time. Most psychiatrists and other mental health professionals use the DSM to diagnose mental illnesses.

Because some people with severe BPD have brief psychotic episodes, experts originally thought of this illness as atypical, or borderline, versions of other mental disorders. While mental health experts now generally agree that the name "borderline personality disorder" is misleading, a more accurate term does not exist yet.

 

[daisydomino]

And we don't know for sure what path the bullet took because Dr. Horn stated the brain matter was in decomposition.

That sounds like Wilmott. Dr. Horn said that even though he couldn't see, it would be reasonable to presume it went through the brain.

 

[TexMex]

Jodi is not diagnosed bipolar. She has borderline personality disorder.

My bad. Matt and her parents suspected bipolar. Demarte borderline

 

[cricket49]

I was wrong in my other post. Borderline is a mental illness. I remember some posters here that were diagnosed with BPD said it was not a mental illness.

This is from the National Institute of Mental Health website.



What is borderline personality disorder?

Borderline personality disorder is a serious mental illness marked by unstable moods, behavior, and relationships. In 1980, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for Mental Disorders, Third Edition (DSM-III) listed borderline personality disorder as a diagnosable illness for the first time. Most psychiatrists and other mental health professionals use the DSM to diagnose mental illnesses.

Because some people with severe borderline personality disorder have brief psychotic episodes, experts originally thought of this illness as atypical, or borderline, versions of other mental disorders.1 While mental health experts now generally agree that the name "borderline personality disorder" is misleading, a more accurate term does not exist yet.

 

[bsk]

BPD also shouldn't be a mitigating factor because it's not a mental illness. IMO it shouldn't be a mitigating factor because a mature adult would get help for it and know how to manage it. BPD doesn't predispose a person to murder. I'll bet BPD-ers have the same incidence of being premeditative murderers as the non-BPD US population.

This is why DeMarte needs to emphasize during her testimony that it is NOT a mental illness.

There may be confusion between two different things:
* Insanity - Doesn't know the difference between right and wrong and so can be found not guilty because of it.
* Mental Illness - Knows the difference between right and wrong so it doesn't affect guilt, but could be a mitigating factor for DP.

At least that's how I understand it from earlier comments from AZL and others.

 

[daisydomino]

There may be confusion between two different things:
* Insanity - Doesn't know the difference between right and wrong and so can be found not guilty because of it.
* Mental Illness - Knows the difference between right and wrong so it doesn't affect guilt, but could be a mitigating factor for DP.

At least that's how I understand it from earlier comments from AZL and others.

My understanding is that insanity is a legal term only.

I say my cat is going insane when she's super playful or that the iPod is insanely great, but that's not using the word correctly.

 

[cricket49]

Texmex

Are you stalking me? Or do great minds think alike? I posted the same information from this NIMH website.

:dance: :dance:

 

[EquallyDivided]

Help me please. I have read several sources in media transcripts that puport that the Convicted Murderer had a Wiccan/Witchcraft website. Has anyone actually found it? I was wondering if I could use archive.org to pull up deleted information.

TIA!

 

[MeeBee]

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/borderline-personality-disorder/index.shtml

Borderline personality disorder (BPD) is a serious mental illness marked by unstable moods, behavior, and relationships. In 1980, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for Mental Disorders, Third Edition (DSM-III) listed BPD as a diagnosable illness for the first time. Most psychiatrists and other mental health professionals use the DSM to diagnose mental illnesses.

Because some people with severe BPD have brief psychotic episodes, experts originally thought of this illness as atypical, or borderline, versions of other mental disorders. While mental health experts now generally agree that the name "borderline personality disorder" is misleading, a more accurate term does not exist yet.

Yes I already amended my post.

 

[cricket49]

Well if BPD is a mental illness I think some jurors might not want to give her the DP because they think she is sick. I thought in the trial, everyone played down that it was a mental illness. Or maybe that was Jodi not wanting anyone to think she had a mental illness.

I re watched Dr. DeMarte's testimony and you could tell Jodi was furious when DeMarte was diagnosing her. Looking down most of the time and scribbling.

 

[TexMex]

Well if BPD is a mental illness I think some jurors might not want to give her the DP because they think she is sick. I thought in the trial, everyone played down that it was a mental illness. Or maybe that was Jodi not wanting anyone to think she had a mental illness.

I re watched Dr. DeMarte's testimony and you could tell Jodi was furious when DeMarte was diagnosing her. Looking down most of the time and scribbling.

She hated DeMarte. A woman the same age who has accomplished things in her life. We will have to see. If she allows her DT to highlight that she has a mental illness or she allocutes that she is remorseful and is sick...it could save her life. But I don't see her doing it.