Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 1/9-1/12 Break

[Truth Detector]

So it seems Dworkin and Melendez both lied under oath about the during the first trial.

Looks like we've come to an impasse. Really, really curious on how JSS will rule and if Nurmi will take it a higher court.

My assumption is that just as JM questioned them about the lack of images of women with bare torsos, they were defining in that context as images/videos and not words.

Thus, I find it quite understandable.

Now, if there is an obscene image/video on that Toshiba HDD and they testified that there was no , I'd agree that they lied in that context.

But so far, no one has been able to produce a single one.

JA had them on TA's camera and her own devices no doubt, but evidently (pun intended) TA had none on that Compaq Presario at the time of his murder.

 

[TexMex]

Jodi Arias sentencing trial: Could it all be over Monday?

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/mesa/2015/01/09/jodi-arias-death-penalty-ruling/21526215/

I believe it could be. DP taken out, transcripts released... I am just being realistic.

Another "unbiased" story by Michael Kiefer? He's rabidly anti-DP and even gave Katiecool a hard time knowing her sister was killed and the killers sentenced to death (one commuted to life recently)

 

[ElleElle]

Neither lied under oath. JMO

Both had the 2009 image? or 2008?

 

[Nore]

dog.gone.cute. I think the same. I think someone spoke also , said get this show on the road! I've read on other pages the people of AZ. are getting fed up. I am glad some finally thought to post it. Could be another reason JSS. wants loose ends tied by Monday. On a tweet (from Jen I believe) Nurmi said she has no mitigating facts. He said it in court. She doesn't. The Alexanders will have to accept this. Her days will be numbered anyway. :seeya:

 

[Truth Detector]

Spoiler

January 09, 2015

09:46AM	@courtpio	State v Jodi Arias: Camera is approved for motions hearing this afternoon.	Twitter
12:14PM	@12News	LIVE: #JodiArias trial updates http://t.co/F6StVzY2J3	Twitter
12:27PM	@william_pitts	Now hearing the video restrictions on today's hearing are relaxed. We can use the video after the hearing's over. #JodiArias	Twitter
12:49PM	@william_pitts	Nurmi citing the court's reasoning in closing the courtroom to the judge. Which was ruled unconnstitutional. Not sure how that works.	Twitter
12:50PM	@william_pitts	FINALLY. Martinez brings up subpoenas. Says there were no attempts to subpoena anyone. #JodiArias	Twitter
12:51PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan says he wants the affidavits of these witnesses because he doesn't have them. #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
12:55PM	@william_pitts	Whatever witness Nurmi says he has on , Martinez says TA wasn't even living in the house with that computer at the time. #JodiArias	Twitter
12:55PM	@michaelbkiefer	Martinez says it was more likely the person who alleged Alexander watched who really watched the . Calls it a ""communal computer.""	Twitter
12:55PM	@william_pitts	Seriously shocked no one mentioned subpoenas for the last three weeks of this thing. #JodiArias	Twitter
12:56PM	@william_pitts	Martinez: I hope #JodiArias isn't saying she lied during the trial and that's why she won't use tape of it now.	Twitter
12:56PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan- The Bishops computer having pop ups well it was a communal computer many used #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
12:57PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan- Jodi testified for 18 days...the story is out there in full voice! We have video if defense wants to use it. #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:07PM	@william_pitts	Nurmi again says Martinez admitted (today) to not disclosing the 2008 mirror image of the hard drive.	Twitter
01:07PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Nurmi- The changing of horses supports Ms. Arias's claims #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:08PM	@troyhaydenfox10	14 more witnesses for #JodiArias defense? We could be here til late spring.	Twitter
01:08PM	@william_pitts	Judge: Nurmi do you agree that the existence of the images were disclosed? #JodiArias	Twitter
01:08PM	@william_pitts	Nurmi: The hard drive yes, the images no. #JodiArias	Twitter
01:08PM	@SKrafftFox10	judge: do you agree hard drive was disclosed? ""existence yes, images no"" says #jodiarias atty.	Twitter
01:08PM	@michaelbkiefer	Nurmi: a piece of evidence that should have been turned over in 2009 not turned over until December 2014, after first trial and mid second.	Twitter
01:09PM	@michaelbkiefer	Numi says it would never occur to them that Mesa PD would turn on the computer without a writeblocker. #JodiArias	Twitter
01:10PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Melendez never informed defense there was a difference in the images #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:10PM	@william_pitts	#JodiArias watches defense attorney Kirk Nurmi give oral arguments on throwing out the death penalty Friday. #12News http://t.co/KLSPxATKoc	Twitter
01:10PM	@michaelbkiefer	Melendez never mentioned the different mirror images. ""An act of of concealment,"" Nurmi says.	Twitter
01:11PM	@michaelbkiefer	Eventually, the withheld evidence will derail the case, Nurmi says, hinting at appeal. ""She will never be executed.""	Twitter
01:12PM	@william_pitts	JSS: I reread testimony. In mitigation testimony seems to have shifted to , is that the concern? #JodiArias	Twitter
01:12PM	@michaelbkiefer	Stephens asks the significance of the newfound mirror image.	Twitter
01:13PM	@TrialDiariesJ	We were forced to take this witness out of order & he was scrambling to get this done Smith was just getting basic info for 2 hours	Twitter
01:14PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Judge says she listened to Lonnie's testimony and now defense has shifted to the being an issue #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:14PM	@william_pitts	Nurmi talking about conviction based on false testimony. That's not an argument for JSS, that's for the appeals court.	Twitter
01:14PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Judge- Juan asked Lonnie if he found and he said he did but wasn't asked to look further by defense. #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:15PM	@michaelbkiefer	The #JodiArias murder conviction was based on false testimony, Nurmi says. Mesa PD has now admitted that there was on the computer.	Twitter
01:17PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Judge- There was no follow up from defense on this issue on re direct #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:19PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Nurmi- We can't read affidavits to the jury. This is an issue of identity for them. To be exposed by audio and video is an issue. #jodiarias	Twitter
01:19PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Nurmi- The threats happened before and it's a problem still with cyber-bullying #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:19PM	@william_pitts	Nurmi: ""It is game over. She cannot present a case for life."" #JodiArias	Twitter
01:20PM	@michaelbkiefer	Nurmi: ""It is game over. She cannot present a good defense."" Stephens takes it under advisement.	Twitter
01:20PM	@william_pitts	#JodiArias has nto decided whether to take the stand. Nurmi wants a ruling on this before she decides. #JodiArias	Twitter
01:21PM	@william_pitts	Keeping track of these motions is hard...like calling the question of the motion on the previous question on the rule. #JodiArias #huh	Twitter
01:21PM	@michaelbkiefer	Stephens says she will have a decision ""No later than Monday."" Meanwhile, Nurmi will plan on witnesses for then.	Twitter
01:21PM	@SKrafftFox10	#jodiarias atty: please give us your decision before Jodi Arias might testify. Judgeecision no later than Monday morning.	Twitter
01:22PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Nurmi wants a decision before Jodi makes a decision on testifying. Judge said she will have it by Monday #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:22PM	@william_pitts	court's adjourned. Back to work...more on @12news at 5	Twitter
01:23PM	@courtpio	State v #JodiArias: hearing has concluded. Judge Sherry Stephens will take motions under advisement. Trial resumes Monday at 9:30am.	Twitter

Daisy,

I don't think I've ever thanked you for the time and effort you put into collecting and making these digital ditties available for the rest of us.

But I am now.

:gthanks::gthanks:

 

[ElleElle]

My assumption is that just as JM questioned them about the lack of images of women with bare torsos, they were defining in that context as images/videos and not words.

Thus, I find it quite understandable.

Now, if there is an obscene image/video on that Toshiba HDD and they testified that there was no , I'd agree that they lied in that context.

But so far, no one has been able to produce a single one.

JA had them on TA's camera and her own devices no doubt, but evidently (pun intended) TA had none on that Compaq Presario at the time of his murder.

This is true. JSS did ask what the relevance was.

 

[Mystymiss]

Her PI in an interview stated as much. They are already working on her appeals (and have been since end of summer/early fall). Dorian Bond went so far to even comment about Nurmi and ineffective council- albeit, IIRC it was a bit cloaked.

I don't understand, Nurmi seems to be trying anything to get rid of the DP charge!

 

[Truth Detector]

I've been thinking back to the first hearing and how BN was so condescending to Juan.

He kept using the word slimy and he told Juan he knew nothing about computers. He also said the computer was loaded with and anyone that wasn't incompetent would have found it, unless they were trying to hide it.

The implication all the way through that hearing was that it was a bombshell and Juan and Florez had orchestrated some major cover-up.

Come to find out, Juan new more about computers than BN and the real orchestration was in trying to get people to believe that TA had actively sought out and watched it day and night (I believe those were Nurmi's words).

The single time the DT was able to put out that TA may have actually VIEWED anything was after JA had moved and certainly doesn't bolster their Jeckyl/Hyde scenario.

There is no way JSS will believe that one peak at would be exculpatory. And the handling of the computer seemed pretty standard for the times. Definitely not purposeful or malicious, IMO.

Nurmi threatens to take the decision to a higher court, after he's been turned down twice on this issue and thinks that is helpful? Just not seeing it.

Yeah, JM took Skymeister down several pegs.

Too bad the audience wasn't invited to that one.

But it makes for a satisfying read.

https://drive.google.com/viewerng/v...uments/arias/jastateprecludewitness010415.pdf

 

[ElleElle]

dog.gone.cute. I think the same. I think someone spoke also , said get this show on the road! I've read on other pages the people of AZ. are getting fed up. I am glad some finally thought to post it. Could be another reason JSS. wants loose ends tied by Monday. On a tweet (from Jen I believe) Nurmi said she has no mitigating facts. He said it in court. She doesn't. The Alexanders will have to accept this. Her days will be numbered anyway. :seeya:

BBM ~ Yes, she will sent away to prison. :jail: I believe this has gone way off in leftfield, and this BS needs to stop. Just throw her in the slammer and throw out the key. She will never be remembered again, at least not in the way Travis is. :angel:

JMO.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Hello! Nurm get with the program! Two Courts already have! :happydance:

JSS needs to tell him in her best Beavis voice...... Are You Threatening Me? LOL.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoPVC4YxDlI

 

[garthmax]

I just finished reading the blog "ReallyMeanBigDog" and she showed the receipt from WalMart. She thought of something I never would have thought. CMJA purchased two sunscreen and lotions the size for airplane travel when a larger size would have been cheaper. Why? She probably thought she could convince TA to take her and he said no.

 

[bznbear]

I don't think there's anything of great interest there either. Maybe some embellishments about abuse or a woe is me soliloquy, but that's about it.

I think all the drama about testifying in secret is just standard JA. It's about control and feeling entitled and getting off on the drama and fun of playing diva. She was upset yesterday because she was told she didn't get her way, that's all.

I'm sure we'll get to see Nurmi ask her how it all made her feeeeeel.

 

[daisydomino]

Daisy,

I don't think I've ever thanked you for the time and effort you put into collecting and making these digital ditties available for the rest of us.

But I am now.

:gthanks::gthanks:

Aw, you are so welcome! I wish I had time to do this for every day in court, as I'd planned! I'm sorry I've been slacking.

[video=youtube;oYZD1sQBdlE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYZD1sQBdlE[/video]

 

[AngelWings444]

Did Nurmi (or the former lawyer in 2008) ever request a "clone" copy of the 2008 hard drive, or did they simply ask to see the computer in 2009? Huge difference. The State is not obligated to do the defense job.

 

[AZlawyer]

I agree. I am just thinking that that is the next delay tactic. 'Your honor, I need at least a month to do fourteen videos'. I was wondering if a judge would then give them the time since they chose not to do them earlier.

If I were the judge, I would not. I don't know what JSS would do. For that matter, I don't know what Nurmi has been saying about WHY he hasn't subpoenaed these people. Maybe when the full video from today is released, we will find out.

AZL, I think I must have brain fog from the hearing today. I don't think Laurence cares about the appropriateness of filing. He implied or threatened today that he would go to a higher court if the judge denied his motion. Do you think he can be judicious or will he actually give it a shot at every whim? There may be case law, but then, there is the Constitution and that didn't stop him. Colour me confused.

He's only filed one special action this whole time, and it was on a pretty major issue (whether the sole agg. factor should be thrown out after Flores admitted he was wrong about the order of injuries). I don't think he's suddenly going to start filing one every week. Besides, how many more weeks can we have left?

 

[dr dona]

Haven't commented in awhile--but just to show how easily a single computer click can bring up a site--I clicked "bedspread" as a search title--I wanted a plain old bedspread--not a comforter- Well the sites that IA brought up were crazy. One of my partners wanted to research Dr Seuss for her 10 year old and even got hits for that...It's not really hard to bring up some gross sites...Innocent accidents do occur.

 

[LinasK]

I just finished reading the blog "ReallyMeanBigDog" and she showed the receipt from WalMart. She thought of something I never would have thought. CMJA purchased two sunscreen and lotions the size for airplane travel when a larger size would have been cheaper. Why? She probably thought she could convince TA to take her and he said no.

She also may have hacked into his computer while he was in the shower- someone logged into SouthWest Airlines site- and found out that Mimi's name was on the airline ticket, and that might have been the final straw.

 

[Nore]

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Hi BeccaBoo!!! good to see you!!

 

[bznbear]

The COA did say it had to do with the judge being concerned about Jodi not testifying when she hadn't waived that right, even though the judge thought she was being manipulative. IMO, it had nothing to do with the content of the testimony or Jodi's brain scramble or even threats. It had to do with not creating a future appeal issue.

And, yeah, that's just Jodi. She freaks out, has a violent tantrum, then pulls a 180, dare I say, a Jekyll and Hyde, and starts acting like an innocent little soft spoken girl again. The drawing is how she detaches herself so she doesn't flip and so she can pretend she doesn't care, NBD.

IMO.

It's also just like her to try and hold the Court hostage by saying she's not gonna testify if she can't do it "en secret", but she's also not gonna waive her right. Nice little catch 22.

 

[daisydomino]

I agree. I am just thinking that that is the next delay tactic. 'Your honor, I need at least a month to do fourteen videos'. I was wondering if a judge would then give them the time since they chose not to do them earlier.

Although what he says to the judge seems to have no real meaning about what he will or will not actually do, Nurmi did indicate today that video is not acceptable:

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TrialDiariesJ Nurmi- We can't read affidavits to the jury. This is an issue of identity for them. To be exposed by audio and video is an issue. #jodiarias 1/9/15, 1:19 PM